Patcher says Nintendo doesn't even know there's an internet ye

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Speaking on a panel at CES 2012, as reported by IndustryGamers, Pachter assessed eahc of the three major gaming platform holders for their ability to keep consoles relevant as streamed content becomes more common.

“Sony is a content provider in film and music and games; I think they’re ahead of the curve. Microsoft… They’re right back on track. These guys want to be an entertainment hub. So you’re going to get a box out of Microsoft that’s going to turn your washer and dryer on, and they’re going to give you the multi-purpose console of all time,” he said.​

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“Nintendo doesn’t even know there’s an Internet yet so trust me, they’re going to be making consoles until someone explains it to them.”​

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The analyst also outlined his argument for the continued existence of consoles, drawing an analogy with ongoing sales of CDs.​

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“You’re never gonna have a step function, where every game developer, every publisher says ‘Screw it, we’re putting everything in the cloud, on OnLive,’” he said.​

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“So as long as there’s somebody who is going to buy a game console, and buy a game in that format, then consoles will continue. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo have a vested interest in their core royalty business: getting people to put content on their platforms.”

Source: http://www.vg247.com/2012/01/24/pachter-nintendo-doesnt-even-know-theres-an-internet-yet/

Personally I think this guy is a joke and just loves bashing anything Nintendo. Thoughts?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I think he meant that they're so far behind on the technological curve in terms of online services that it's baffling.

(Which is absolutely true).

If anything it was probably just a really douchey way to phrase it.

 

[DiscostewSM]

...So trust me...

.......ppphhh......BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[Hells Malice]

Breaking news: Captain Obvious strikes again


Nintendo doesn't have a good online service?
HOLY SHIT! Who knew.

 

[Bladexdsl]

Personally I think this guy is a joke and just loves bashing anything Nintendo. Thoughts?

i agree his the biggest HD whore on the planet and also btw his always wrong

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'm also going to say Patcher stuff is more editorial than actual analysis. I'll move this to General Gaming Discussions.

 

[Foxi4]

Personally I think this guy is a joke and just loves bashing anything Nintendo. Thoughts?

i agree his the biggest HD whore on the planet and also btw his always wrong

Fair play, point out the lie in what he said.
Sony is a content provider in film and music and games - True.
Microsoft… They’re right back on track. - Also True, they're beginning to serve users similar content.
you’re going to get a box out of Microsoft that’s going to turn your washer and dryer on, and they’re going to give you the multi-purpose console of all time - As per usual, Microsoft treats connectivity with other devices, especially branded Windows ones as a priority. This is their hub model and it's unlikely to change. True.
Nintendo doesn’t even know there’s an Internet yet so trust me, they’re going to be making consoles until someone explains it to them. - What kind of content Nintendo allows you to access other then their own? BBC iPlayer, Netflix, that's it. No arcade, no downloading of full games etc. etc. - much still to be worked on. Not to mention, so far no tags/nicks online.

It's a very accurate analisis of what's currently going on the market, and if Nintendo doesn't step it up with Nintendo Network then just voice/video chat isn't going to cut it - those were the features of the LAST generation of consoles. I really want something fresh and new on the WiiU (possibly the 3DS too) that I haven't seen yet on the other consoles - you have a massive touchscreen and an army of developers - think of something, Nintendo. Prove to me that you're not a boat that still floats only thanks to Pokemon, Zelda and Mario.

 

[nando]

but the wii is the most used device to stream from netflix, how does that make the "content provider in film and music and games" look that pachter thinks is ahead of the curve?

 

[Foxi4]

but the wii is the most used device to stream from netflix, how does that make the "content provider in film and music and games" look that pachter thinks is ahead of the curve?

Netflix is not available world-wide, nor is it the only service of this kind.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

but the wii is the most used device to stream from netflix, how does that make the "content provider in film and music and games" look that pachter thinks is ahead of the curve?

Well you're still missing the "music" part and it still lacks a bit of online stuff in the "games" part. The Wii just does Netflix the most because it's the console that "casual gamers" buy and they realize they can do something with it other than have a fancy dust catcher. Honestly, I've gone to so many houses of friends with not very gaming oriented families and they have a Wii they almost never use. It's a fun toy for a week for that target audience but Wii Sports won't sustain you for long. People figure they may as well get Netflix and may as well use their Wii for it instead of streaming from a computer or smart device (tablet, phone)... Provided they aren't on-the-go or anything.

They still have no music capabilities or distribution compared to Sony (Sony Music Entertainment, hello?) or Microsoft (Zune stuff). They are still years behind in terms of DLC capabilities and they don't even have a Games on Demand type of service. They have WiiWare and Virtual Console. That's it.

Let's not even get into friend codes, no voice chat, and the general clusterfuck Wii online gaming is.

 

[gifi4]

Well Nintendo is far off when it comes to the internet, you see Sony, who have services to give you movies, songs etc whereas Nintendo's Wii failed (HD, internet etc) The Wii is equivalent to the Ps2 and the Xbox IMO and it was released shortly after the PS3.

 

[nando]

but the wii is the most used device to stream from netflix, how does that make the "content provider in film and music and games" look that pachter thinks is ahead of the curve?

Netflix is not available world-wide, nor is it the only service of this kind.

so? netflix is still the biggest streaming service in the land that pachter himself lives in. he is not chinese last time i checked. and from that large streaming service about 50 percent of it is streamed on consoles, and from those consoles the wii is the most used and that is not a stat to ignore.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Why doesn't Nintendo have an online service?

**looks back at last year's online attacks**

Oh......

 

[Guild McCommunist]

so? netflix is still the biggest streaming service in the land that pachter himself lives in. he is not chinese last time i checked. and from that large streaming service about 50 percent of it is streamed on consoles, and from those consoles the wii is the most used and that is not a stat to ignore.

But it's certainly not that important in terms of online services. The Xbox has it, the PS3 has it, the 3DS has it, Android and iOS devices have it, and there's also the PC of course. How much its used is irrelevant, it doesn't make any one device more advanced than the others. The overall range of features is what matters.

 

[DiscostewSM]

To be serious for a moment....

Sony is a content provider in film and music] and games; I think they’re ahead of the curve. Microsoft… They’re right back on track. These guys want to be an entertainment hub. So you’re going to get a box out of Microsoft that’s going to turn your washer and dryer on, and they’re going to give you the multi-purpose console of all time,

Isn't that the problem? Nintendo is simply just a gaming company. Sony and Microsoft are not just gaming companies. They do many other things. I'm not saying Nintendo shouldn't have an online gaming service (which the Nintendo Network might remedy somewhat), but Patcher is dissing Nintendo because they don't have the resources to be as full-blown as the competition. Nintendo is not on equal ground to be able to accomplish what the others have, yet sales have shown that Nintendo is in a perfectly fine place when it comes to games (inb4hardcorecasualraging).

 

[Deleted_171835]

To be serious for a moment....

Sony is a content provider in film and music] and games; I think they’re ahead of the curve. Microsoft… They’re right back on track. These guys want to be an entertainment hub. So you’re going to get a box out of Microsoft that’s going to turn your washer and dryer on, and they’re going to give you the multi-purpose console of all time,

Isn't that the problem? Nintendo is simply just a gaming company. Sony and Microsoft are not just gaming companies. They do many other things. I'm not saying Nintendo shouldn't have an online gaming service (which the Nintendo Network might remedy somewhat), but Patcher is dissing Nintendo because they don't have the resources to be as full-blown as the competition. Nintendo is not on equal ground to be able to accomplish what the others have, yet sales have shown that Nintendo is in a perfectly fine place when it comes to games (inb4hardcorecasualraging).

In 2008, Nintendo founded a team called 'Network Service Development' and hired a load of people with network-related jobs. What do you think they were doing in the past three years?

 

[Gahars]

If anything it was probably just a really douchey way to phrase it.

It's Pachter; phrasing his points in the most inflammatory way possible is kind of his thing.

 

[Valwin]

We know Nintendo is nowhere near the level of their rivals in online stuff

 

[Joe88]

To be serious for a moment....

Sony is a content provider in film and music] and games; I think they’re ahead of the curve. Microsoft… They’re right back on track. These guys want to be an entertainment hub. So you’re going to get a box out of Microsoft that’s going to turn your washer and dryer on, and they’re going to give you the multi-purpose console of all time,

Isn't that the problem? Nintendo is simply just a gaming company. Sony and Microsoft are not just gaming companies. They do many other things. I'm not saying Nintendo shouldn't have an online gaming service (which the Nintendo Network might remedy somewhat), but Patcher is dissing Nintendo because they don't have the resources to be as full-blown as the competition. Nintendo is not on equal ground to be able to accomplish what the others have, yet sales have shown that Nintendo is in a perfectly fine place when it comes to games (inb4hardcorecasualraging).

its more to the effect that nintendo is putting little to no effort into online services

 

[LightyKD]

I think he meant that they're so far behind on the technological curve in terms of online services that it's baffling.

(Which is absolutely true).

If anything it was probably just a really douchey way to phrase it.

So far behind? Bullshit! Nintendo pulled a smart move with the Wii. Instead of jumping on the HD bandwagon they waited till HD was affordable. I can bet that Wii-U games will be 50 a pop. Why? because it's affordable to make HD games now. Nintendo was smart. They are always innovative and with 4 R&D teams trust me, they are not behind the times.