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I digress, and to be honest, the whole SOPA thing is freaking me out big time and didn't know how else to react. I don't want to get fined and/or go to jail for uploading walkthroughs on youtube.

You probably won't.

This is meant to target major piracy, I doubt they'll spend their time going after small fry pirates and people who have minor cases of copyright infringement. I seriously doubt, say, Nintendo would get on your case if you did a walkthrough of Skyward Sword. It's basically free advertising for them.
 

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Alright that part is a relief, but they'd better not start to block youtube, facebook or any sites that many of us care to to visit. If they do, VPN time.

Doing that would be suicide. Google and Facebook are two enormous corporations and blocking them all outright would be ridiculous. If anything videos they deem major copyright infringements on Youtube would be removed. I don't see why Facebook would be taken down or censored at all.

EDIT: And the amount of advertisement every other corporation does on these sites is ridiculous. If any of those would be taken down I bet almost every corporation would support reform of the bill.
 

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Mind you this gives them the power to do it but the odds of them shutting down a major site like Youtube or spending the time to censor lyrics on your Facebook page is probably never gonna happen.

Also, free anime and music is pretty much copyright infringement unless they have consent from the distributor or whatever. For example, Funimation has a Youtube channel and they actually keep entire series of anime on there. Will they be taken down? No, because they're the company responsible for their properties. Same deal goes with a lot of artist Youtube channels (even then, you see things such as live concerts and such taken down on Youtube for copyright infringement anyway).

I agree that the measure is unnecessary but complaining about how it will give them the potential to stop you from clearly performing copyright infringement is just being a whiny pirate.
Wrong, It takes away our rights, We should be able to browse anything we want on the internet, illegal or not, should we not be able to get in trouble? I think that should stay the same, but we should have the option to browse freely.
Especially Americans.
This is probably the stupidest thing I've read in a long time, no offense, or at least as little as can be taken from that. The whole point of something being illegal is that you DON'T have the right to do it. Freedom doesn't mean you have the right to murder people as long as you get punished for it, the entire point of punishment is to make it clear that you do not have the right to do the illegal action.
 

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The thing that pisses me off is the fact that the senate thinks that can get away with such asininity. If this passes, there will be Hell to pay...heck, I might be tempted to move back to Japan for a while.
 

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Hmmmm. The government tells us which cars to buy, what food we can/can't eat, how much carbon dioxide our factories can produce, what kind of health insurance we have to get, and now if this bill passes, they can tell us what we can/can't visit on the internet. Wow. They should probably stop while they're ahead.

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I can't even use the img code here? FAIL
 

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Hmmmm. The government tells us which cars to buy,

By having regulations so we don't die? I mean is it a bad thing that our cars have to have seat belts, airbags, and pass safety standards? You can still choose what car you want, just provided its passed these standards.

what food we can/can't eat

Again, complaining about health standards? Really? If it wasn't for the government, we'd still be in the jungle. And you can still eat mostly everything from a KFC Double Down to nothing but tofu. I mean we have an entire cable network dedicated to food and you're complaining about the government "limiting what food we can eat"?

how much carbon dioxide our factories can produce

Because I really wish companies just dumped all their hazardous waste into the air and into our streams.

what kind of health insurance we have to get

You don't need health insurance and our health bill isn't even close to what it was imagined. Only insurance I do believe is mandatory is car insurance.

they can tell us what we can/can't visit on the internet.

They're telling you that you can't do things that are illegal. I know we all love to pirate but I think we all forget that it's illegal. If we're gonna turn a blind eye to something that's illegal, where does it end?

This post is just ignorance in its prime.
 

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But owing a car isn't mandatory, so why should we have to get Obama's? But anyways, what right does the government have to block websites? Granted, there are some sites I wished never existed; I swear they obey the movie industry fearing retaliation. And yes, piracy is a major issue which should be curtailed as much as possible. Now with youtube (such as Let's Play videos), those I believe do no harm to the videogame industry, but provides free advertising and make people want to play games. What in the he** is wrong with posting videos like that, especially if they don't do it for monetary gain?
 

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But owing a car isn't mandatory, so why should we have to get Obama's? But anyways, what right does the government have to block websites? Granted, there are some sites I wished never existed; I swear they obey the movie industry fearing retaliation.

I'm not quite familiar with this "car" policy but since when were Americans required to buy a car? You can pretty much live without a car if you live in a big city and use public transportation.

And it's the government's duty to stop things they we deem morally wrong. We as a people constitute getting something that's supposed to cost money for free as stealing COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. It's the government's duty to stop it then just as much as theft or murder. Of course I would be upset if they did, but I wouldn't be up in arms about it. I realize why I'm doing is illegal and morally wrong. Trust me, I've pirated things I would much rather buy simply because it's easier to pirate.
 

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Copyright gives you the right to control distribution, not the (moral) rights to the information and it's form. Otherwise, it would be a crime to remember that movie that you just watched. Not gonna happen! ;)

If people can't make money, they are less likely to do it for obvious reasons. Some will do it anyways but they're very rare. Yeah, the easy-and-almost-anonymous piracy versus unlimited-length&strength monopoly (100+ year copyright with massive criminal penalties) extremes aren't really healthy for the creative industry. Copyright, wrongly or not is pretty much a dead letter to most Internet users.
 

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That's the problem, it's mandatory to get a car insurance, but not to get a car; yet the government thinks it's mandatory for everyone to get socialized medicine. But with youtube yes, there is a lot of copyright-infringing content on there, but the harmless act of uploading videos of people playing videogames? BFD. But getting back to piracy, yes, I used to pirate stuff as well, and I'm not really proud of it. The only "illegal" or "piracy"-related thing I do now is obliterating DRM on games I legally purchased. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is a good example. It didn't work on Windows 7, despite StarForce having an "update". I went to *censored* and got the DRM removal patch. I fail see how getting DRM removal patches for legitimately obtained games or music hurt the industry (provided you don't give a copy to other people). But, hopefully we'll hear something about this internet-killing bill this week.
 

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Partially at fault is also the fact that if you don't defend your 'IP' then it can bite you in the *ss when you go after blatant thieves. It's really doing no commercial harm to have karaoke-via-youtube but the lawyers have a fit. Someone releasing an album with a cover song and not paying the song writer is obviously commercial harm to the writer!

The way things are going though, you'll see threats of actual prison terms for singing on youtube, until some judge rules the law unconstitutional or backlash does an 'amendment 21' on it like what happened to prohibition.
 

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