Hacking GC Controller Softmod for the System Menu?

[Wolvenreign]

Would there happen to be a softmod available that allows me to control the pointer on the system menu via the Gamecube controller?

 

[jalaneme]

i've seen one on youtube a while back so yes it can be done, you need to solder i think though.

 

[Wolvenreign]

Eh, that wouldn't be a softmod.

 

[JoostinOnline]

No, there is not, and probably never will be.

 

[Wolvenreign]

No, there is not, and probably never will be.

Oh? Why might that be?

 

[DinohScene]

With enough modifications to the system menu it might be possible.

I tought that you could control the pointer with a Classic controller.
Not sure about it.

 

[JoostinOnline]

No, there is not, and probably never will be.

Oh? Why might that be?

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

 

[tueidj]

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

LOL, this from the guy who always recommends to install priiloader aka the most invasive and dangerous system menu modification of all.

 

[Wolvenreign]

No, there is not, and probably never will be.

Oh? Why might that be?

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

1&4 (...>_>) Of course there's a reason to do it. I want to start up my Wii and play Super Smash Bros Brawl, Muramasa, Mario Kart Wii, Castle Shikigami III, Guilty Gear AC+, and whatever other games that let you use only a Gamecube controller to play them. (Oh, and it's almost always inaccurate to say that there's no reason to do something with technology, because there is discovery value in even the most minute of projects.).

2 .....Aaaaand? I might be willing to try this.

3 Dangerous? Big deal. That hasn't stopped people from doing even less important things to the system menu (like themes).

 

[JoostinOnline]

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

LOL, this from the guy who always recommends to install priiloader aka the most invasive and dangerous system menu modification of all.

Priiloader certainly has the potential to screw up the SM, I don't deny that. I made it clear in the thread about priiloader causing bricks. However, it's install process has proven quite safe (with the exception of v0.5, which was more a result of TT fail) and it is very beneficial in the long run.

In this case, the user wants people to attempt something of little to no value because he is too lazy to use a Wii remote. I don't know if the change is even possible (you might though), and I don't think it's worth the risk.

 

[tueidj]

It's not just the install process though, the crappy code in priiloader gets executed every time you boot your system menu. Take a look at the latest issues caused by the "0.8 beta 2" autoupdate that was pushed, some people can't even boot their system menu if they've got an SD card inserted. Older builds also had a habit of bricking the wii if a system format was performed.
The main problem with v0.5 was that it did modifications directly in the system menu's directory rather than assembling them in a temporary location, ensuring they were correct, then finally moving them into position (like what happens every time a title is installed on a wii's NAND). Hence the period of time during which a brick could occur was much larger than necessary... because the coder is inexperienced/not smart enough to figure these things out on his own.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

I can confirm that the guitar works to move the pointer around on the screen, no hackery needed. I can't confirm it with a classic controller.

 

[JoostinOnline]

It's not just the install process though, the crappy code in priiloader gets executed every time you boot your system menu. Take a look at the latest issues caused by the "0.8 beta 2" autoupdate that was pushed, some people can't even boot their system menu if they've got an SD card inserted.

Ugh, another reason to stay away from beta versions.

Older builds also had a habit of bricking the wii if a system format was performed.

I haven't heard that before, I'm going to have to do some research on it. Could you point me in the right direction?

The main problem with v0.5 was that it did modifications directly in the system menu's directory rather than assembling them in a temporary location, ensuring they were correct, then finally moving them into position (like what happens every time a title is installed on a wii's NAND). Hence the period of time during which a brick could occur was much larger than necessary... because the coder is inexperienced/not smart enough to figure these things out on his own.

Was that also the case with versions before 0.5?

@DeadlyFoez: The guitar and classic controllers work because they connect to the Wii remote.

 

[Wolvenreign]

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

LOL, this from the guy who always recommends to install priiloader aka the most invasive and dangerous system menu modification of all.

Priiloader certainly has the potential to screw up the SM, I don't deny that. I made it clear in the thread about priiloader causing bricks. However, it's install process has proven quite safe (with the exception of v0.5, which was more a result of TT fail) and it is very beneficial in the long run.

In this case, the user wants people to attempt something of little to no value because he is too lazy to use a Wii remote. I don't know if the change is even possible (you might though), and I don't think it's worth the risk.

Bzzzzt, wrong. Did you even read my reasons? Besides, it's worth it for even more than what I mentioned.

Ever had one of your little nieces or nephews break one of your Wiimotes? I have. That is painful, especially when I only use the Wiimote minimally. In fact, the only thing I use it for is to SELECT MY FREAKIN' DISC CHANNEL. After that, it gets tossed somewhere else. Why not have the ability to cut it out of the equation, period? Not to mention batteries that you have to keep paying for. It would save money.

And, as if I even had to mention it, the very same problem would be solved for everyone.

 

[JoostinOnline]

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

LOL, this from the guy who always recommends to install priiloader aka the most invasive and dangerous system menu modification of all.

Priiloader certainly has the potential to screw up the SM, I don't deny that. I made it clear in the thread about priiloader causing bricks. However, it's install process has proven quite safe (with the exception of v0.5, which was more a result of TT fail) and it is very beneficial in the long run.

In this case, the user wants people to attempt something of little to no value because he is too lazy to use a Wii remote. I don't know if the change is even possible (you might though), and I don't think it's worth the risk.

Bzzzzt, wrong. Did you even read my reasons? Besides, it's worth it for even more than what I mentioned.

Ever had one of your little nieces or nephews break one of your Wiimotes? I have. That is painful, especially when I only use the Wiimote minimally. In fact, the only thing I use it for is to SELECT MY FREAKIN' DISC CHANNEL. After that, it gets tossed somewhere else. Why not have the ability to cut it out of the equation, period? Not to mention batteries that you have to keep paying for. It would save money.

And, as if I even had to mention it, the very same problem would be solved for everyone.

Of course not. Do children in your family play with sledge hammers? They aren't easy to break. Also, I haven't had to pay for batteries for over 4 years because I was smart enough to get rechargeable packs.

As for other people, you are acting like this is a common issue. New Wii's aren't even going to include gamecube ports.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's never going to happen, just accept it instead of whining because you made bad financial decisions and let your relatives break controllers.

 

[Wolvenreign]

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

1) No reason to do it.
2) You would have to do a lot of modifications.
3) Messing with the SM is dangerous.
4) Again, no reason to do it.

LOL, this from the guy who always recommends to install priiloader aka the most invasive and dangerous system menu modification of all.

Priiloader certainly has the potential to screw up the SM, I don't deny that. I made it clear in the thread about priiloader causing bricks. However, it's install process has proven quite safe (with the exception of v0.5, which was more a result of TT fail) and it is very beneficial in the long run.

In this case, the user wants people to attempt something of little to no value because he is too lazy to use a Wii remote. I don't know if the change is even possible (you might though), and I don't think it's worth the risk.

Bzzzzt, wrong. Did you even read my reasons? Besides, it's worth it for even more than what I mentioned.

Ever had one of your little nieces or nephews break one of your Wiimotes? I have. That is painful, especially when I only use the Wiimote minimally. In fact, the only thing I use it for is to SELECT MY FREAKIN' DISC CHANNEL. After that, it gets tossed somewhere else. Why not have the ability to cut it out of the equation, period? Not to mention batteries that you have to keep paying for. It would save money.

And, as if I even had to mention it, the very same problem would be solved for everyone.

Of course not. Do children in your family play with sledge hammers? They aren't easy to break. Also, I haven't had to pay for batteries for over 4 years because I was smart enough to get rechargeable packs.

As for other people, you are acting like this is a common issue. New Wii's aren't even going to include gamecube ports.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's never going to happen, just accept it instead of whining because you made bad financial decisions and let your relatives break controllers.

Yikes, dude, what's your problem? That was something that had happened before. I was saying it was more than just convenience, and that if people want to operate their Wiis without the Wii remote to play games where they let you use the GC Pad to navigate the entire experience, this mod would let them do that.

Tell you what; let's find out if people want this or not. I'll see if I can add a poll to this topic.

Folks, if you want to see this happen, make a post saying that you would.

(P.S. Nice try with the rechargables, but those die over the span of a year.)

 

[ilman]

Ok Ok now if you could stop arguing.
The answer to the OP is no there isn't any sort of homebrew.
Topic answered.

 

[Wolvenreign]

Well, maybe we could use this topic to discuss how it could be done. We've already made some progress by determining that the Wii has a built-in function for allowing guitar controllers to control the system menu.

You can push it around with a classic or guitar controller. It just needs to be patched to think one of those is connected and read the SI registers instead of the wiimote extension data.

So how might one go about patching it? Oh, and I have a pretty good idea of what the button mapping should be like.

A&B should have similar functions to the Wii remote.

L: Previous Page

R: Next Page

When zoomed into a channel, L&R move from channel to channel.

Z can be the home menu.

D-Pad and the analog stick move the pointer (naturally).

Hm...actually, it would be sort of useful to have the D-Pad select a specific channel rather than the pointer itself when zoomed out.

 

[scooby74029]

it would be easy to add to neek!!!

 

[DeadlyFoez]

it would be easy to add to neek!!!

Lets see what you can do.