YUP, Worst Fears Realized

after seeing a few things during the aug 22 gamescom i realized that my worst fears about nintendo have come true. see the other day i wrote about how nintendo was gonna screw it up, and i wanted to write about it months ago but didn't until after that an exploit was announced and people started saying how i only wanted "whatever they thought i wanted (im not a mind reader)" ill try my best to explain it but im terrible with putting words on paper/forum.

You know for months now all switch owners have been wondering "what will they bring out next after 2017" and i too have been wondering the same, However i always had a hunch that they were gonna lock stuff behind a paywall.

You see, when Nintendo says they are working on content, they aren't talking about new games, theyre talking out trickling out updates to older games that are intentionally built incomplete. they wont charge a DLC fee, mostly.... they'll just charge a yearly fee. Are the days that Nintendo dares to make complete games gone? We see games like Xenoblade and Mario Odyssey and Rabbids Kingdom but we don't see anything else. The future for Nintendo games is clear, bring out Two complete games out a year, but have Two that are incomplete and need constant updates... See ive always hated incomplete games, its just me, i don't like going and buying a cartridge and its only a portion of the game.

But i saw the future when they were really pushing Triforce Heroes and Metroid Federation and really trying to learn how to make games that were online friendly but they never solved how to keep it fresh... well they did now. The formula is simple, have a base game and sell it, and then build to it as it goes to keep people playing it. Is it the same as playing an incredible game? I dont know, When was the last time you picked up Zelda? It was a 10/10 game no? Even that game is incomplete too.

There has been certain critcism about nintendo games that always point to them being fun, good replayability but lacking in content. the way nintendo plans on fixing it is by releasing very little content then adding more as time goes by to fool people into thinking that theres much more content ahead, instead of just putting it in the game.

why give us the whole thing if they can just milk us for more money?

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Guys, please stop. Nearly shit myself of laughter:rofl:
Looks like is a incomplete laugh. Sorry..
 
GUYS college s incomplete because I have to pay for it and wait 4-ish years to get the degree
Those assholes, selling diploma preorders with no guarantee they will even release them after 4 years!
It is like that, college is incomplete!
 
after seeing a few things during th.......
What did you think they'll magically start pumping out 20 AAA titles per year? Depiste that pathetic release line? Cmon if you didnt see this coming from a lightyear away you must be a fool (and everyone else that was expecing a console full of titles). You'll keep getting 20 year old games as it is popular nowdays with Nintendo and remakes that add a costume or two to the game and up the resolution to 1080p.
Enjoy it for what it is (a WiiU 2) and don't expect a revolution.

As my Serbian coworker likes to say, same shit different packaging.
 
I don't necessarily agree with everything you're saying, especially considering you won't need an online subscription to download updates for games (and where you seem to defend TriForce Heroes and Federation Force, Christ). That being said, I too have issues with intentionally incomplete games that section off some content as paid DLC (where it easily could've been included in the base game) for the sake of making it paid DLC.

You say that Nintendo will only bring out "two complete games out a year", but it's just over halfway through the year and we have over two complete games on the Switch already (going by my metric of "[in]complete", at least), and we still have Odyssey and Xenoblade to come.

I get what you're saying on locking content behind Amiibos (which in my mind is just the same as locking it behind paid DLC, except worse due to the difficult with getting some Amiibos), especially with Metroid: Samus Returns. I think that sort of practice is abhorrent, but thankfully we have FreeShop, Amiibo spoofing, and/or save editing to get around it. I also agree with you on Nintendo's paid online generally, considering that Nintendo's online services have been and are notoriously poor, and there is little reward to actually purchasing an online subscription.

I don't think that a game eventually having DLC necessarily makes it an incomplete game, though I do dislike many DLC-related practices that have sadly become commonplace in the gaming industry in recent years, and I wish that DLC could either be in the form of free updates, or be more like what expansions used to be.

As for what Nintendo will bring out next after 2017? We'll just have to wait and see. I think it's best not to get your hopes up.

Lastly, though I disagree with much of what you've been saying (and agree with some of it), I'm not going to attack you for expressing your opinion. It's sad to see GBAtemp become the sort of place where people are attacked for simply putting their view forward. I'd like to apologise on behalf of those who think that that sort of behaviour of rudeness and arrogance is acceptable.
 
It's sad to see GBAtemp become the sort of place that attacks people for simply putting their view forward. I'd like to apologise on behalf of those who think that that sort of behaviour of rudeness and arrogance is acceptable.
He is more being made fun of instead of being attacked, if you ask me. Which is, in my humble opinion, perfectly reasonable when he states ridiculus "facts" that are easlily debunked and then continues his argument by simply repeating them ad nauseam. He is free to share his opinion, just as I am free to mock him for it. (And, of course, everyone is free to mock me for my opinions.) Freedom of speech always has two sides, which unfortunately is often forgotten nowadays.
 
He is more being made fun of instead of being attacked, if you ask me. Which is, in my humble opinion, perfectly reasonable when he states ridiculus "facts" that are easlily debunked and then continues his argument by simply repeating them ad nauseam. He is free to share his opinion, just as I am free to mock him for it. (And, of course, everyone is free to mock me for my opinions.) Freedom of speech always has two sides, which unfortunately is often forgotten nowadays.
I didn't say that he was attacked (just that I wouldn't attack him), nor did I mention freedom of speech at any point. All I said is that I found some of the behaviour of some individuals to be regrettable, especially considering that effectively no-one tried to engage in a civil discussion to begin with.

If you believe that he makes claims that can be easily debunked, then debunk them. If you believe that he doesn't listen to reason after you debunk them, say so respectfully and/or cease to be a part of the conversation. Turning to ridicule isn't a good look for anyone in this case.
 
I didn't say that he was attacked (just that I wouldn't attack him), nor did I mention freedom of speech at any point. All I said is that I found some of the behaviour of some individuals to be regrettable, especially considering that effectively no-one tried to engage in a civil discussion to begin with.

If you believe that he makes claims that can be easily debunked, then debunk them. If you believe that he doesn't listen to reason after you debunk them, say so respectfully and/or cease to be a part of the conversation. Turning to ridicule isn't a good look for anyone in this case.
look at the other thread.
 
look at the other thread.
I have already read through most of the other thread. Any points he made in this thread should stand (or not stand) on their own merit.

If there's already been a time when you haven't approved of what he has to say or how he says it, then why participate in this thread?
 
If you believe that he makes claims that can be easily debunked, then debunk them.
I (and lots of others) did. Look at the first page of this thread or his other one (http://gbatemp.net/threads/this-is-how-nintendo-will-screw-it-up.481421/).
If there's already been a time when you haven't approved of what he has to say or how he says it, then why participate in this thread?
If he continues to state something that I think is blatandly wrong, I will contine to argue against it and I will resort to ridicule if I deem it necessary to get my point across.
 
As I said earlier, I have already read the other thread.

If he continues to state something that I think is blatandly wrong, I will contine to argue against it and I will resort to ridicule if I deem it necessary to get my point across.
Feel free to do so, but I doubt ridicule will succeed in convincing him of anything.

At any rate, I have no intention of continuing this off-topic discussion any further.
 
especially considering that effectively no-one tried to engage in a civil discussion to begin with.
I disagree on this, people has been engaging in civil discussion since the previous thread, and that includes me and my posts since the previous thread. But...
All I said is that I found some of the behaviour of some individuals to be regrettable.

If you believe that he makes claims that can be easily debunked, then debunk them. If you believe that he doesn't listen to reason after you debunk them, say so respectfully and/or cease to be a part of the conversation. Turning to ridicule isn't a good look for anyone in this case.
You are right.
 
dont apologize for what you believe in...

but for real, i hate how nintendo games are going the route of Overwatch. Im a binge person and i expect better from Nintendo. The future looks bleak for me personally though
 

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