What if someone told you that we have all been brought into existence 5 minutes ago with all of our memories intact, like they formed with us when we started existing? How do you prove them wrong?
What if thats true?
Im going to believe that till someone here proves to me that i didnt just start existing 5 minutes ago.
Someone help!
EDIT heres my answer so far:
What if thats true?
Im going to believe that till someone here proves to me that i didnt just start existing 5 minutes ago.
Someone help!
EDIT heres my answer so far:
[quote name='BortzANATOR' post='3424679' date='Jan 28 2011, 08:21 PM']Ok heres where i have arrived at.
Physical objects cant be trusted because they can all be forged to look like i have always had them.
This is a metaphysical argument we are dealing with.
There are 2 ways we have to "know" something.
A priori: is knowledge through logic and
A posterior: knowledge through experience.
the first problem is that both of those have been forged in this 5 minute old world.
So i would have to raise the question: how can one arrive at the conclusion that the world was created 5 minutes ago without having anything that is physical to point at?
Here is an example: A man exploring the jungle stumbles onto a group of cannibals..They tell him that before they kill someone they let them make one statement. If its true, he gets hung, if the statement is false, he gets boiled. How does he leave unharmed?
basically "this sentence is false"
Pinocho: "my nose will now grow"
to make this clearer, basically the world that has been created is one that is true and false at the same time.
So you have created a world that is designed to be deceptive, so you have no truth.
But we are not done yet.
Because the that statement is true, there has to be some truth somewhere, so that would mean that i am not perceiving the world at my full senses.
But because my professor is part of the "hallucinogenic" reality, i cannot accept his statement because of the fact that he is part of the world that was created to deceit me.
Its a self defeating reality. If i accept his reality, i cant fully accept his reality.
REDUCTO ABSURDO.
soooooooo
If what he is saying is true, then he has nothing to teach me.
Can i haz an A?[/quote]
Physical objects cant be trusted because they can all be forged to look like i have always had them.
This is a metaphysical argument we are dealing with.
There are 2 ways we have to "know" something.
A priori: is knowledge through logic and
A posterior: knowledge through experience.
the first problem is that both of those have been forged in this 5 minute old world.
So i would have to raise the question: how can one arrive at the conclusion that the world was created 5 minutes ago without having anything that is physical to point at?
Here is an example: A man exploring the jungle stumbles onto a group of cannibals..They tell him that before they kill someone they let them make one statement. If its true, he gets hung, if the statement is false, he gets boiled. How does he leave unharmed?
he says "i will die by hanging"
basically "this sentence is false"
Pinocho: "my nose will now grow"
to make this clearer, basically the world that has been created is one that is true and false at the same time.
So you have created a world that is designed to be deceptive, so you have no truth.
But we are not done yet.
Because the that statement is true, there has to be some truth somewhere, so that would mean that i am not perceiving the world at my full senses.
But because my professor is part of the "hallucinogenic" reality, i cannot accept his statement because of the fact that he is part of the world that was created to deceit me.
Its a self defeating reality. If i accept his reality, i cant fully accept his reality.
REDUCTO ABSURDO.
soooooooo
If what he is saying is true, then he has nothing to teach me.
Can i haz an A?[/quote]
