So I bought a new laptop two or three days ago.

And I ****ing love it!
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I positively adore it in every manner one could possibly think of! I'd probably make out with it if it were possible, maybe not since that would be freaky...still I wubs it oodles much!!!

It royally beats the **** out of my puny 13-Inch Macbook (I'll never understand why I bought my Macbook in the fist place :rolleyes:. Something tells me deep down inside that I've always disliked it in one way or another )

It was a kind of (Woah, wake up, this thing beats my 3-4 year old mac, I has enough monies, is cheaper than my mac, probably easier to maintain, plus I wont have to worry about OSX, not that I use it that much, if at all anymore. Lets get it!) spur of the moment sort of thing. I paid $477.82 for it, which is not bad considering the specifications below

Specs and Tech Stuff that some of you wont care about with pointless yet fancy formatting.


  • [*]AMD Phenom II X4 Quad-Core N970 processor (Hellz yeah!)


    [*]2.2GHz, 2MB L2 Cache


    [*]4GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory (expandable to 8GB)


    [*]500GB SATA hard drive (Western Digital Scorpio BTW, yeah a decent brand for once)


    [*]8x SuperMulti DVD Double-Layer Drive


    [*]3x USB 2.0 Ports (They might be 3.0, but I haven't really checked into that yet.)


    [*]SVGA and HDMI outputs (Yay, normal Video Outputs again!)


    [*]1x Obligatory Ethernet Port


    [*]1x Obligatory Headphone and Microphone port


    [*]Nice built-in speakers that I cant remember the name or brand of right now


    [*]Built-in 1.3mp webcam, probably has a built-in microphone on it.


    [*]17.3" HD+ widescreen CineCrystal display (LED to be exact, Resolution is 1600x900 (16:9) Refresh rate is 60Hz)


    [*]ATI Radeon HD 4250 Graphics with 256MB of dedicated video memory and support for Microsoft DirectX 10.1
    (LolICareAboutDirectXWhy? Also LolI'mnotonetoneedtopofthelineexpensivevideocardsthisisfineformeIdontuseWindowsha
    rdlyever.)

Some other handy features include

  • Natively/Kernel Supported Supported Wireless Card: It works out of the box on Linux on every distro, specifically it uses an ath9k chipset (I love this, no more crap broadcom card or having to install drivers, just had to blacklist the acer-wmi module in Linux which is cakewalk)
  • Numeric side-Keypad
  • Tons more screen real-estate in general, expecially in Linux
  • Brushed Aluminum casing around the keyboard
  • Webcam works out of the box (So long and good riddance isight-firmware-tools)
  • HDMI and SVGA work out of the box
  • I also seem to have a 5-10 hour battery, depending on the demand given for power, which you know for such a powerful laptop, is just damn sexy, expecially since you would think it would consume much more
  • Barely heats up at all compared to my mac, of course this is because it has more fans than my mac

Yeah, you kinda get the point. I'm a power-hog, I like my machines to be powerful, even if they are a bit heavier than usuall.

All in all it seems to be relatively well built, the Hard Drive is even held in place by a screw to it's drive bay in the corner, unlike my mac in which it just sits in there and hopefully doesn't move around too much. The cover for the hard drive is very sturdy, and could probably take a good hit, which compared to my Macbooks's thin aluminum hard drive shielding is a good thing (Seriously, my Macbooks HDD cover is so thin, you could bend it without even trying to).

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Before we start the next session, let me iterate a few facts,

  • I'm a
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    user, have been for 3-4 years now or so. It's always worked for me in everything I have needed, and I generally hate
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    with a passion, to the point in which I seem to be unable to actually want to type it's name out. I only use
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    in rare situations such as college classes that require it's use. Don't take this to offense though please, it doesn't actually affect you, and I prefer to not really pick fights with
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    users.

  • As a result I don't give so much as even the smallest, most microscopic sliver of a rats you know what of a damn about the OEM copy of whatever OS a laptop ever comes with (Windows, Linux, etc, it doesn't matter). OEM copies in my honest opinion, suck but you're free to your own opinion on the matter.
    • Sub-sequentially, I'm always just going to install some Linux distro over the partition housing the OEM copy, even if I never make any recovery disks, and with the tools I have in various Linux distros and utilities, who needs em anyways?


    The first thing I did was format repartition my existing 500GB Drive that I bought a few years past to clone my Arch Linux Install to off of my 750GB Drive, and then Rsync -avh my Home Directory off of it's partition on the same 750GB drive to the 500GB drive so the permissions and files would be preserved.

    I then cloned over Mac OSX into my 120GB HDD that came with my Mac Originally so that I could preserve it.

    After all this was finished and I confirmed that all of my data, files,etc were still there , I used a Linux Mint 10 Live DVD to format the 750GB Drive and change it's Partition Map type from GPT (Which is what my Mac Used), to MBR, and partitioned it as follows

    Primary Partitions

    Mount Point/Purpose: Root (This is where Arch was supposed to go) ( / )
    Device Name: /dev/sda1
    Size: 45GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Mount Point/Purpose: Some NTFS Partition (If I need Windows for some college class, which I doubt will be the case, this is where it'll go)
    Device Name: /dev/sda2
    Size: 80GB
    Filesystem: NTFS

    Mount Point/Purpose: Other Linux Distro (Will probably be Debian, Crunchbang, or Sabayon)
    Device Name: /dev/sda3
    Size: 35GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Extended Partitions:

    Mount Point/Purpose: Home Partition/Where my Home Directory goes (/home)
    Device Name: /dev/sda5 (Dunno why it skips a number when going to extended)
    Size: 400GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Mount Point/Purpose: Temporary ( /tmp )
    Device Name: /dev/sda6
    Size: 25GB
    Filesystem: ext3 (I admit, Journaling is probably useless on a /tmp partition, but whatever)

    Mount Point/Purpose: Swap (/swap)
    Device Name: /dev/sda7
    Size: 8GB
    Filesystem: linux-swap

    Mount Point/Purpose: Virtual Machines or something like that, mostly a misc partition though
    Device Name: /dev/sda8
    Size: 105.63 (Yeah, couldn't get this to be even, of course this is due to the base2 and base10 discrepancy)
    Filesystem: NTFS

    I didn't foresee any complications at first, which would later come back to bite me in the ***. After I had gotten my 750GB drive formatted to MBR, partitioned, and ready to go, I began the process of using the same Linux Mint live cd and the same rsync command I used earlier (subsituting my home directory backup on the 500GB as the source (mounted under /media), and the partition's on the 750GB drive's mounted location in /media as the target. It took about an hour and a half, maybe two hours, but eventually it finished.

    I then used Parted Magic, which includes a application-ized version of Clonezilla to clone my Arch Linux install on the 500GB drive to it's designated partition on /dev/sda1 on the 750GB drive. Afterwards I altered fstab and a few relevant config files to match the new one, switching to the use of UUID's as well. Unfortunently something went "holy foobar batman!" and Arch would never boot, merely *****ing that the root device on /dev/disk/by-uuid/ didn't exist. Needless to say I spent at least an hour and a half trying to fix this, using the Linux Mint live CD from earlier to alter the files.

    Arch however would have none of this, and even though I reconfirmed that everything would allow me to boot it properly, and the UUID's were in fact the same as they should be in fstab and every other relevant config file on the Arch Partition, it would not boot.

    The only good news was that my home directory was completely intact in every possible way (Yay!)

    At this point I didn't have the time or patience to fight with it anymore and I was like "**** it!"

    I decided to screw trying to get Arch up and going, and I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 over it (I still have a backup of arch on the 500GB drive, which boots just fine in my puny Macbook, so go figure), and gave it my login/user info from Arch, which in turn made it so it was as if nothing happened. I installed openbox, KDE , and a bunch of other stuff (I'm not gonna post all the packages unless someone wants me to, not that it matters), compiled a few programs from source that didn't have .deb binaries available, installed several themes, edited conky to display two more bars for the two new CPU's I had compared to the old config, edited more configs, installed a new kernel or two etc. The only thing I did not reinstall was Gnome3 and Gnome-shell, which seem to be very unstable in Natty NarwhalAll in all it was a successful day for the most part

    Everything I need is back and installed in one form or another, and I've learned some stuff as a result of buying it and using it for a few days

    • Don't buy overpriced hardware, especially hardware that is no different from a normal laptop, just made to sound better. You know what I'm talking about here, and I really don't mean to bash "those machines" seeing as I've used one, and it lasted me quite some time and still works, but enough about that.

    • Don't get attached to one Linux Distro (I'll miss you Arch Linux, but the lessons you taught me will never fade. I just dont have the time or patience to maintain such a distro anymore, and it was fun while it lasted.)

    • Look for good deals on laptops. A machine with a Quad-Core that runs at 2.2 GHz, has a 500GB HDD, 4GB DDR3 RAM (Up to 8GB they say could be installed), a Dual Layer DVD drive, etc is nothing to scoff at, no matter what the brand is. (Currently this Acer is the best deal we have at my Work in terms of Price for performance.)

    • Quad Cores ****ing own!

    • Not really a lesson I've learned recently, more like a long while ago, but some advice if you're going to use alternate OS's such as Linux like I do. Do lots of research to see what is natively supported and what isn't. It really really makes a difference to not have to install loads of crap to get wireless to work and whatnot.

      For example, my new Acer uses an Atheros chipset (Almost all wireless cards are rebrands of some other kind), Atheros seems to support Linux quite well and seems to be generally friendly to it as well. As a result almost any computer you buy that uses an atheros chipset will work out of the box.

      However my new Acer needs restricted/proprietary drivers for it's Radeon card, which is not a problem for me since most any distro out there will offer an easy way to install them, but none-theless it doesn't work out of the box entirely. The video still works, but Unity and some applications suffer from garbage on the menus and screen unless these drivers are installed. I knew this would be the case with Radeon anyway, as my brothers old crappy Compaq had to have them installed as well. On my Mac it used an Intel card, which was natively supported. Nonetheless the radeon driver works insanely well, and I have no quells or problems will it being propriatary.


    But yeah, I'm done flaunting my new laptop for the most part. It's my new main machine, and consequentially and predictably the most powerful out of all of the machines in our household whether the other machines be laptops or desktops. Old Somewhat-beloved Macie has been retired to (We'll use this if Big Boss falls) duty, and I'll only use it as a backup machine. I'm gonna go back in on payday this week and get the 2 year extended care plan from work (I never risk not getting it, and no you cant stop me, it's only about $59-$70 anyway), I just didn't want to spend that extra $59-$79 at the time.

    I only wanted to show it off, and not trying to bash any other brands too terribly much, so sorry if I come off that way. I think it was a good buy for the price (I was gunning for under $600, and I honestly am not swayed one way or the other between Intel and AMD processors)

    My only remaining question, is that do you think it was a good buy for the price and the capabilities? Again I'm not fussy about graphics performance, and I'm not gonna be running stuff like Crysis and high-end games on it, the most I'd be running is TF2 when I eventually get it setup (Hey, my bro and I could do Ad-hoc using this new laptop and my old Macbook!). Just asking everyone's opinions and thoughts on it.

    Also I need a nickname for it. All of my laptops are obviously female, because they are all beautiful in their own ways? Any suggestions?

    Now that I'm done with this, I'm gonna do some pelvic thrusting as a victory dance k.
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    Again, you don't need to care at all about it, I just felt like flaunting it off a bit. I gotta have my fun and ego-moments from time to time ya know.

Comments

Guys...Guys...Stop giving MTW what he wants. He's an Apple fanboy, troll, drunk, etc. He'll [hopefully] be banned again by the end of the night, so you might as well just ignore him for the time being.
 
[quote name='Foxi4' post='3780906' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:13 AM'][quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780901' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:08 AM']solution: don't use linux or pc craptops, buy a mac and enjoy 9 hours of battery life.[/quote]

*sighs* I realize that you need some sort of confirmation that your overpriced purchase was well-motivated and "right", but...

It's not.
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Mmm-kay?
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iknow that one word comments are banned :tpi:
but lol !!!!
also i know one
Failure is not an option -- it comes bundled with Windows.
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The irony behind it is that regardless if it's a normal laptop or a Mac, it's still the same x64 platform. It's the exact same hardware. Any modern laptop can boot MacOS (Hackintosh) without breaking a sweat, sometimes beating Mac Books performance-wise at it.

IT'S THE SAME ARCHITECTURE.
 
@MTWdeluex

Trolololololo.


OP:

I've seen some good, and really bad laptops. Good being my dad's huge Toshiba laptop, and the bad being the puny Acer, it lags even on start up, even sounds like it.
 
[quote name='Foxi4' post='3780919' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:23 AM']The irony behind it is that regardless if it's a normal laptop or a Mac, it's still the same x64 platform. It's the exact same hardware. Any modern laptop can boot MacOS (Hackintosh) without breaking a sweat, sometimes beating Mac Books performance-wise at it.

IT'S THE SAME ARCHITECTURE.[/quote]
weah its like that but the boot loaders...........i hate them .......but you also need to have a intel if im ont wrong :s
..........also i found my last one for this night :tpi:
Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. Linux is the answer.
 
Looks like MTWdeluex got banned :tpi:
I like the laptop specs, but I don't care for Acers, I've always had bad luck with them.
 
[quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780932' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:29 AM']Looks like MTWdeluex got banned :tpi:
I like the laptop specs, but I don't care for Acers, I've always had bad luck with them.[/quote]
Nah, he got deleted. Different from a ban. :tpi:

(Though was does it say he's still viewing this topic?)

But yeah, I've had issues with Acers as well, speed issues.
 
it depends on the model ............asus are ok at quality build but the top for me is
1.asus
2.toshiba
there is also a asus laptop called asus bamboo that is .........sexy as hell :wub:
 
[quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780937' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:30 PM'][quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780932' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:29 AM']Looks like MTWdeluex got banned :tpi:
I like the laptop specs, but I don't care for Acers, I've always had bad luck with them.[/quote]
Nah, he got deleted. Different from a ban. :tpi:

(Though was does it say he's still viewing this topic?)

But yeah, I've had issues with Acers as well, speed issues.
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Strange :unsure:

My issues wasn't just the speed issue, it's was more like customer service is just plain awful.
 
[quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780942' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:34 AM'][quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780937' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:30 PM'][quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780932' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:29 AM']Looks like MTWdeluex got banned :tpi:
I like the laptop specs, but I don't care for Acers, I've always had bad luck with them.[/quote]
Nah, he got deleted. Different from a ban. :tpi:

(Though was does it say he's still viewing this topic?)

But yeah, I've had issues with Acers as well, speed issues.
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Strange :unsure:

My issues wasn't just the speed issue, it's was more like customer service is just plain awful.
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Hmm, then it probably depends on the model, whenever it starts up you can always hear the start up sound lagging, and it takes forever to load.
 
I'm guessing MTW's posts just got deleted because he was trolling. Doubt that mods have the power to lock a thread for a specific user (how helpful that would be).

@OP: Glad you like the Aspire. Just a general rule of thumb, no matter what manufacturer you buy from, a 17 inch laptop is likely to overheat with that much surface area. But it sounds like it's properly equipped with more fans so it should be okay.

@MTW: If you're trolling this thread because you can get more battery life on your Macbook then that's just sad. The Acer Aspire Ethos AS5951G-9694 can achieve just as much battery life on a bigger screen, more RAM, 250GB more HDD, and a Blu-Ray drive all for $1400. To even get close, a MacbookPro would have to be upgraded to $2100 and STILL not have a Blu-Ray drive.

[quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780943' date='Jul 18 2011, 03:35 PM']Hmm, then it probably depends on the model, whenever it starts up you can always hear the start up sound lagging, and it takes forever to load.[/quote]
That sounds like Windows is fragmented and has too many startup items rather than hardware failure.
 
[quote name='Hakoda' post='3780974' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:50 AM']I'm guessing MTW's posts just got deleted because he was trolling. Doubt that mods have the power to lock a thread for a specific user (how helpful that would be).

@OP: Glad you like the Aspire. Just a general rule of thumb, no matter what manufacturer you buy from, a 17 inch laptop is likely to overheat with that much surface area. But it sounds like it's properly equipped with more fans so it should be okay.

@MTW: If you're trolling this thread because you can get more battery life on your Macbook then that's just sad. The Acer Aspire Ethos AS5951G-9694 can achieve just as much battery life on a bigger screen, more RAM, 250GB more HDD, and a Blu-Ray drive all for $1400. To even get close, a MacbookPro would have to be upgraded to $2100 and STILL not have a Blu-Ray drive.

[quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780943' date='Jul 18 2011, 03:35 PM']Hmm, then it probably depends on the model, whenever it starts up you can always hear the start up sound lagging, and it takes forever to load.[/quote]
That sounds like Windows is fragmented and has too many startup items rather than hardware failure.
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Thing is, my dad is the only one that messes with it, and he barely downloads anything (He's one of those people that are afraid of everything online, he even buys Anti-Virus for us every year.) The only start up thing that I know he runs is that little sidebar on the right that shows the time and day.
 
[quote name='Hakoda' post='3780974' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:50 PM']I'm guessing MTW's posts just got deleted because he was trolling. Doubt that mods have the power to lock a thread for a specific user (how helpful that would be).[/quote]
Actually they were deleted because he was banned, look at his account
 
damn nice! i want one now lol but the screen is a little to big , i prefer a 15 inch screen
 
[quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780994' date='Jul 18 2011, 03:59 PM']Thing is, my dad is the only one that messes with it, and he barely downloads anything (He's one of those people that are afraid of everything online, he even buys Anti-Virus for us every year.) The only start up thing that I know he runs is that little sidebar on the right that shows the time and day.[/quote]
Regardless, some software adds some things to the startup whether you're aware of it or not. To see what starts up with your system, press the Windows key + R and type "msconfig". Click on the "Startup" tab to see what applications are on the list. Some things are essential while other things aren't. It's possible you'll find things that you need like your antivirus and others you don't need like Adobe Flash Updater or something.

There's also the fact that the NTFS file system fragments quite often, slowing down system performance. Windows includes a built-in Disk Defragmenter to help cope with this issue. It is usually found in the "System Tools" folder of the "Accessories" folder in the start menu.

@Catboy: good riddance.
 
damn nice! i want one now lol but the screen is a little to big , i prefer a 15 inch screen
 
[quote name='KirbyBoy' post='3780937' date='Jul 18 2011, 11:30 PM'][quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780932' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:29 AM']Looks like MTWdeluex got banned :tpi:
I like the laptop specs, but I don't care for Acers, I've always had bad luck with them.[/quote]
Nah, he got deleted. Different from a ban. :tpi:

(Though was does it say he's still viewing this topic?)
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[quote name='A Gay Little Catboy' post='3780998' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:02 AM'][quote name='Hakoda' post='3780974' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:50 PM']I'm guessing MTW's posts just got deleted because he was trolling. Doubt that mods have the power to lock a thread for a specific user (how helpful that would be).[/quote]
Actually they were deleted because he was banned, look at his account
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Yeah, that was me.
Gotta love the spambot button. :tpi:

(As you were)
 
Simply the fact that it is an ACer makes me despise it, they use cheap parts, and AMD proccessors overheat way to much. AT BJ's they had an ASUS i5 2.8 GHZ dualcore 2nd gen, for 449$ w/ 6gb ram and 500 GB ram which i bought, and i have an acer aspire also its a 5741-5763 it has already been sent in once it had a faulty cpu. Acer sucks with repairs they dont offer onsite and it takes for ever to get anything back. AMD phenom is good but yours isnt too powerful at 2.2 ghz i would over clock it and replace your graphics card.

Over all i rate the computer at 4/10 cause its an acer.

Do you know the windows experience rating on it by any chance, i doubt it though since you hate windows.
 
[quote name='unnkown95' post='3781035' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:33 PM']Simply the fact that it is an ACer makes me despise it, they use cheap parts, and AMD proccessors overheat way to much. AT BJ's they had an ASUS i5 2.8 GHZ dualcore 2nd gen, for 449$ w/ 6gb ram and 500 GB ram which i bought, and i have an acer aspire also its a 5741-5763 it has already been sent in once it had a faulty cpu. Acer sucks with repairs they dont offer onsite and it takes for ever to get anything back. AMD phenom is good but yours isnt too powerful at 2.2 ghz i would over clock it and replace your graphics card.

Over all i rate the computer at 4/10 cause its an acer.

Do you know the windows experience rating on it by any chance, i doubt it though since you hate windows.[/quote]
You don't seem to making a proper critique of Acer. They can't be using "cheap parts" if they're using the same PC hardware as everyone else. However, if you're referring to things that Acer actually makes then you are justified. However, by stating you don't like Acer because their AMD CPU's overheat is not entirely because of Acer, it's also partly AMD. I say partly because if Acer doesn't cool the laptop properly with enough fans then it can overheat, regardless of which CPU brand you choose. But if the WiFi card just "fails" or the hard drive stops spinning then you can only blame the original company, not the manufacturer.

On the contrary, I've heard on multiple occasions that their customer service blows.
 
Gwahahaha, just read what happened to MTWdeluxe,


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I lol'd

Number one, I don't have the 1000+ USD to spend on a machine that is no better than any other one, and that would cost me up to 1000 more to upgrade it.

Number two, I have the common sense not to spend 1000+ on a laptop that is no better than any other one.

Macbooks and whatnot are no more a real machine than any PC based laptop, I have learned my lesson well on that, and I admit I was probably foolish to have bought my Macbook, but you know I still love it for what it was.

Also, the irony of his Windows Craptop comment, is that the first thing I did was wipe the Windows Install off of my new acer. I dont care about the Windows Experience rating, especially since I dislike Winblowz (Sorry if I insulted you by saying that, not intending to do so) so much. It really means nothing in the long run, just a supposed number/rank that has no meaningful purpose.

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Oh dear, I do terribly love it when people don't even read the first post of a topic. It provides me with such amusement at their ignorance, or even the fact that they are attempting to troll me, even in the simplest forms. I probably shouldn't say that because I myself have been guilty of not reading the first post before I post a reply, but at least I don't intentionally troll people. Then again who the hell cares about all that right now.

Nonetheless, I'm running Kernel 2.6.39rc4, and I've even got the FLGRX (ATI proprietary drivers), installed, albeit I had to manually do it since the stupid package in the official repository caused a whole butt ton of issues with Xorg 1.11 or something. Also I had to go out and retrieve said packages myself, since the Kernel PPA seems to be down or broken (FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!)

I have Linux installed on my new machine, It's a Quad Core, it's fast as hell, runs like a dream, has a big keyboard with a numeric keypad, I had to do nothing to map the keyboard, it's got a huge screen, it boots Ubuntu in less than 10 seconds, etc, and everything seems to work out of the box...

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Oh and Hakoda is entirely right on his last post. Couldn't have said it better myself. My Macbook can serve as a backup if my Acer fails and I have to send it in, it can boot Linux even without OSX (Yay EFI), even from a MBR Partitioned disk. I just don't like it as much as my New Acer, for a number of reasons.
 

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