So I bought a new laptop two or three days ago.

And I ****ing love it!
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I positively adore it in every manner one could possibly think of! I'd probably make out with it if it were possible, maybe not since that would be freaky...still I wubs it oodles much!!!

It royally beats the **** out of my puny 13-Inch Macbook (I'll never understand why I bought my Macbook in the fist place :rolleyes:. Something tells me deep down inside that I've always disliked it in one way or another )

It was a kind of (Woah, wake up, this thing beats my 3-4 year old mac, I has enough monies, is cheaper than my mac, probably easier to maintain, plus I wont have to worry about OSX, not that I use it that much, if at all anymore. Lets get it!) spur of the moment sort of thing. I paid $477.82 for it, which is not bad considering the specifications below

Specs and Tech Stuff that some of you wont care about with pointless yet fancy formatting.


  • [*]AMD Phenom II X4 Quad-Core N970 processor (Hellz yeah!)


    [*]2.2GHz, 2MB L2 Cache


    [*]4GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory (expandable to 8GB)


    [*]500GB SATA hard drive (Western Digital Scorpio BTW, yeah a decent brand for once)


    [*]8x SuperMulti DVD Double-Layer Drive


    [*]3x USB 2.0 Ports (They might be 3.0, but I haven't really checked into that yet.)


    [*]SVGA and HDMI outputs (Yay, normal Video Outputs again!)


    [*]1x Obligatory Ethernet Port


    [*]1x Obligatory Headphone and Microphone port


    [*]Nice built-in speakers that I cant remember the name or brand of right now


    [*]Built-in 1.3mp webcam, probably has a built-in microphone on it.


    [*]17.3" HD+ widescreen CineCrystal display (LED to be exact, Resolution is 1600x900 (16:9) Refresh rate is 60Hz)


    [*]ATI Radeon HD 4250 Graphics with 256MB of dedicated video memory and support for Microsoft DirectX 10.1
    (LolICareAboutDirectXWhy? Also LolI'mnotonetoneedtopofthelineexpensivevideocardsthisisfineformeIdontuseWindowsha
    rdlyever.)

Some other handy features include

  • Natively/Kernel Supported Supported Wireless Card: It works out of the box on Linux on every distro, specifically it uses an ath9k chipset (I love this, no more crap broadcom card or having to install drivers, just had to blacklist the acer-wmi module in Linux which is cakewalk)
  • Numeric side-Keypad
  • Tons more screen real-estate in general, expecially in Linux
  • Brushed Aluminum casing around the keyboard
  • Webcam works out of the box (So long and good riddance isight-firmware-tools)
  • HDMI and SVGA work out of the box
  • I also seem to have a 5-10 hour battery, depending on the demand given for power, which you know for such a powerful laptop, is just damn sexy, expecially since you would think it would consume much more
  • Barely heats up at all compared to my mac, of course this is because it has more fans than my mac

Yeah, you kinda get the point. I'm a power-hog, I like my machines to be powerful, even if they are a bit heavier than usuall.

All in all it seems to be relatively well built, the Hard Drive is even held in place by a screw to it's drive bay in the corner, unlike my mac in which it just sits in there and hopefully doesn't move around too much. The cover for the hard drive is very sturdy, and could probably take a good hit, which compared to my Macbooks's thin aluminum hard drive shielding is a good thing (Seriously, my Macbooks HDD cover is so thin, you could bend it without even trying to).

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Before we start the next session, let me iterate a few facts,

  • I'm a
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    user, have been for 3-4 years now or so. It's always worked for me in everything I have needed, and I generally hate
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    with a passion, to the point in which I seem to be unable to actually want to type it's name out. I only use
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    in rare situations such as college classes that require it's use. Don't take this to offense though please, it doesn't actually affect you, and I prefer to not really pick fights with
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    users.

  • As a result I don't give so much as even the smallest, most microscopic sliver of a rats you know what of a damn about the OEM copy of whatever OS a laptop ever comes with (Windows, Linux, etc, it doesn't matter). OEM copies in my honest opinion, suck but you're free to your own opinion on the matter.
    • Sub-sequentially, I'm always just going to install some Linux distro over the partition housing the OEM copy, even if I never make any recovery disks, and with the tools I have in various Linux distros and utilities, who needs em anyways?


    The first thing I did was format repartition my existing 500GB Drive that I bought a few years past to clone my Arch Linux Install to off of my 750GB Drive, and then Rsync -avh my Home Directory off of it's partition on the same 750GB drive to the 500GB drive so the permissions and files would be preserved.

    I then cloned over Mac OSX into my 120GB HDD that came with my Mac Originally so that I could preserve it.

    After all this was finished and I confirmed that all of my data, files,etc were still there , I used a Linux Mint 10 Live DVD to format the 750GB Drive and change it's Partition Map type from GPT (Which is what my Mac Used), to MBR, and partitioned it as follows

    Primary Partitions

    Mount Point/Purpose: Root (This is where Arch was supposed to go) ( / )
    Device Name: /dev/sda1
    Size: 45GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Mount Point/Purpose: Some NTFS Partition (If I need Windows for some college class, which I doubt will be the case, this is where it'll go)
    Device Name: /dev/sda2
    Size: 80GB
    Filesystem: NTFS

    Mount Point/Purpose: Other Linux Distro (Will probably be Debian, Crunchbang, or Sabayon)
    Device Name: /dev/sda3
    Size: 35GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Extended Partitions:

    Mount Point/Purpose: Home Partition/Where my Home Directory goes (/home)
    Device Name: /dev/sda5 (Dunno why it skips a number when going to extended)
    Size: 400GB
    Filesystem: ext4

    Mount Point/Purpose: Temporary ( /tmp )
    Device Name: /dev/sda6
    Size: 25GB
    Filesystem: ext3 (I admit, Journaling is probably useless on a /tmp partition, but whatever)

    Mount Point/Purpose: Swap (/swap)
    Device Name: /dev/sda7
    Size: 8GB
    Filesystem: linux-swap

    Mount Point/Purpose: Virtual Machines or something like that, mostly a misc partition though
    Device Name: /dev/sda8
    Size: 105.63 (Yeah, couldn't get this to be even, of course this is due to the base2 and base10 discrepancy)
    Filesystem: NTFS

    I didn't foresee any complications at first, which would later come back to bite me in the ***. After I had gotten my 750GB drive formatted to MBR, partitioned, and ready to go, I began the process of using the same Linux Mint live cd and the same rsync command I used earlier (subsituting my home directory backup on the 500GB as the source (mounted under /media), and the partition's on the 750GB drive's mounted location in /media as the target. It took about an hour and a half, maybe two hours, but eventually it finished.

    I then used Parted Magic, which includes a application-ized version of Clonezilla to clone my Arch Linux install on the 500GB drive to it's designated partition on /dev/sda1 on the 750GB drive. Afterwards I altered fstab and a few relevant config files to match the new one, switching to the use of UUID's as well. Unfortunently something went "holy foobar batman!" and Arch would never boot, merely *****ing that the root device on /dev/disk/by-uuid/ didn't exist. Needless to say I spent at least an hour and a half trying to fix this, using the Linux Mint live CD from earlier to alter the files.

    Arch however would have none of this, and even though I reconfirmed that everything would allow me to boot it properly, and the UUID's were in fact the same as they should be in fstab and every other relevant config file on the Arch Partition, it would not boot.

    The only good news was that my home directory was completely intact in every possible way (Yay!)

    At this point I didn't have the time or patience to fight with it anymore and I was like "**** it!"

    I decided to screw trying to get Arch up and going, and I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 over it (I still have a backup of arch on the 500GB drive, which boots just fine in my puny Macbook, so go figure), and gave it my login/user info from Arch, which in turn made it so it was as if nothing happened. I installed openbox, KDE , and a bunch of other stuff (I'm not gonna post all the packages unless someone wants me to, not that it matters), compiled a few programs from source that didn't have .deb binaries available, installed several themes, edited conky to display two more bars for the two new CPU's I had compared to the old config, edited more configs, installed a new kernel or two etc. The only thing I did not reinstall was Gnome3 and Gnome-shell, which seem to be very unstable in Natty NarwhalAll in all it was a successful day for the most part

    Everything I need is back and installed in one form or another, and I've learned some stuff as a result of buying it and using it for a few days

    • Don't buy overpriced hardware, especially hardware that is no different from a normal laptop, just made to sound better. You know what I'm talking about here, and I really don't mean to bash "those machines" seeing as I've used one, and it lasted me quite some time and still works, but enough about that.

    • Don't get attached to one Linux Distro (I'll miss you Arch Linux, but the lessons you taught me will never fade. I just dont have the time or patience to maintain such a distro anymore, and it was fun while it lasted.)

    • Look for good deals on laptops. A machine with a Quad-Core that runs at 2.2 GHz, has a 500GB HDD, 4GB DDR3 RAM (Up to 8GB they say could be installed), a Dual Layer DVD drive, etc is nothing to scoff at, no matter what the brand is. (Currently this Acer is the best deal we have at my Work in terms of Price for performance.)

    • Quad Cores ****ing own!

    • Not really a lesson I've learned recently, more like a long while ago, but some advice if you're going to use alternate OS's such as Linux like I do. Do lots of research to see what is natively supported and what isn't. It really really makes a difference to not have to install loads of crap to get wireless to work and whatnot.

      For example, my new Acer uses an Atheros chipset (Almost all wireless cards are rebrands of some other kind), Atheros seems to support Linux quite well and seems to be generally friendly to it as well. As a result almost any computer you buy that uses an atheros chipset will work out of the box.

      However my new Acer needs restricted/proprietary drivers for it's Radeon card, which is not a problem for me since most any distro out there will offer an easy way to install them, but none-theless it doesn't work out of the box entirely. The video still works, but Unity and some applications suffer from garbage on the menus and screen unless these drivers are installed. I knew this would be the case with Radeon anyway, as my brothers old crappy Compaq had to have them installed as well. On my Mac it used an Intel card, which was natively supported. Nonetheless the radeon driver works insanely well, and I have no quells or problems will it being propriatary.


    But yeah, I'm done flaunting my new laptop for the most part. It's my new main machine, and consequentially and predictably the most powerful out of all of the machines in our household whether the other machines be laptops or desktops. Old Somewhat-beloved Macie has been retired to (We'll use this if Big Boss falls) duty, and I'll only use it as a backup machine. I'm gonna go back in on payday this week and get the 2 year extended care plan from work (I never risk not getting it, and no you cant stop me, it's only about $59-$70 anyway), I just didn't want to spend that extra $59-$79 at the time.

    I only wanted to show it off, and not trying to bash any other brands too terribly much, so sorry if I come off that way. I think it was a good buy for the price (I was gunning for under $600, and I honestly am not swayed one way or the other between Intel and AMD processors)

    My only remaining question, is that do you think it was a good buy for the price and the capabilities? Again I'm not fussy about graphics performance, and I'm not gonna be running stuff like Crysis and high-end games on it, the most I'd be running is TF2 when I eventually get it setup (Hey, my bro and I could do Ad-hoc using this new laptop and my old Macbook!). Just asking everyone's opinions and thoughts on it.

    Also I need a nickname for it. All of my laptops are obviously female, because they are all beautiful in their own ways? Any suggestions?

    Now that I'm done with this, I'm gonna do some pelvic thrusting as a victory dance k.
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    Again, you don't need to care at all about it, I just felt like flaunting it off a bit. I gotta have my fun and ego-moments from time to time ya know.

Comments

They're pretty good comps. Was considering getting myself one, but, you know the price markup on anything with a screen in Australia.
 
I've got a 3 year old Acer lappy (core2duo, 2Ghz, 4GB ddr2, 250gbHDD) and I love it too. :wub:

It's got little blue LEDs all over the damn thing :P --I'm a sucker for pretty lights.
Only problem is the screen bugs out every once in a while, but I put up with it.
 
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To bad it has a cheap graphics card.
 
[quote name='ball2012003' post='3779690' date='Jul 18 2011, 07:40 AM']To bad it has a cheap graphics card.[/quote]
Too bad it doesn't have a graphics card at all.
Herp-y-derp.
 
So I bought a new laptop two or three days ago., An Acer Aspire 7551-7422, and I'm gonna flaunt it for a minute.

HAHAHA!

No, really. Good specs, but Acers tend to overheat. I suggest lowering the stock voltage-per-core NOW and fool around with stepping or else you'll *eventually* get to the point where your lovely Acer will become a very annoying piece of tech dump.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780799' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:57 PM']Better idea: www.apple.com/macbookpro.

Return it, get a real computer.[/quote]
No.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780799' date='Jul 18 2011, 08:57 PM']Better idea: www.apple.com/macbookpro.

Return it, get a real computer.[/quote]

Way to be sarcastic...  :rolleyes: 

I generally don't give much suggestion, but mac is definitely not a good choice. Too many issues and horrible support with rocket high price.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780811' date='Jul 18 2011, 05:04 PM'][quote name='Hikaru' post='3780804' date='Jul 18 2011, 09:59 PM'][quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780799' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:57 PM']Better idea: www.apple.com/macbookpro.

Return it, get a real computer.[/quote]
No.
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Is there a particular reason you like windows craptops?
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Not everyone likes Macs. The only thing I like about Macs are the dock (Which I can get myself for Windows) and the look of them. I actually though would much prefer my Sony Vaio, it does the job, and I can play all of the games I like without a single problem. My cousin has a Mac, she actually pirated Windows XP and put it on the Mac just to play Maplestory.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780822' date='Jul 18 2011, 02:14 PM'][quote name='shansoft' post='3780818' date='Jul 18 2011, 10:12 PM'][quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780799' date='Jul 18 2011, 08:57 PM']Better idea: www.apple.com/macbookpro.

Return it, get a real computer.[/quote]

Way to be sarcastic...  :rolleyes: 

I generally don't give much suggestion, but mac is definitely not a good choice. Too many issues and horrible support with rocket high price.
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0 issues, best support in the industry, reasonable price.
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Obvious troll is obvious. Your first post up there should read:
"Return it, pay another $1000, get a computer that likely isn't made for what you want to do."

Macs are only really good if you're into video editing. For most everything else, a Windows computer or Linux distribution will get the job done better.
 
The quality isn't worth the price, and the UI is only favorable to some. I personally don't like it, nor do many other people.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780822' date='Jul 18 2011, 11:14 PM'][quote name='shansoft' post='3780818' date='Jul 18 2011, 10:12 PM'][quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780799' date='Jul 18 2011, 08:57 PM']Better idea: www.apple.com/macbookpro.

Return it, get a real computer.[/quote]

Way to be sarcastic...  :rolleyes: 

I generally don't give much suggestion, but mac is definitely not a good choice. Too many issues and horrible support with rocket high price.
[/quote]

0 issues, best support in the industry, reasonable price.
[/quote]

SPECS:

MacBook Pro 17-inch, Top-Grade setup:
# 2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
# 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
# GPU: Intel HD Graphics 3000 *or* AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5
# Prices start from $2,949.00

Sony Vaio F Series, 16,4-inch, Top-Grade setup:
# Intel® Core™ i7-2820QM quad-core processor (2.30GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.40GHz
# 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1333
# GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M (1GB VRAM)
# Prices start from $1949.99, same set-up as the Macbook

Enjoy paying a $1000 for an apple decal on the case. You, sir, are a fanboy.
 
You on the other hand are a laughable, gullible person who's right where Jobs wants you to be. Do yourself a favour and hand him over the rest of your money before your Apple product becomes obselete. It might happen any minute now - Apple's known to release new editions of their hardware every 15 nanoseconds.

To conclude, Sony laptops are top-of-the-line. If I were to compare the Macbook setup to a "cheaper" company, you'd probably be a $1500 short, not a $1000.

I'll give you a short story about Mac's. Everything really started off when Jobs went to Japan, where he saw a Graphical User Interface for the first time. Back then, comparing computers was like comparing two bricks - the exterior might've been different but the system looked just about the same - it was always a command line.

Without thinking much, Jobs *stole* the GUI idea, and hence "Lisa" was born. That's how Mac's sprouted.

Then, Pentium came along with their revolutionary architectures. Apple stayed behind and chose to put more and more PowerPC CPU units instead of actually doing something new and innovative. It was like this till early 2000, when they finally saw the retardedness of their actions. The exact same line of Intel processors they made fun of 10 years back in commercials, comparing them to snails, are now "proudly introduced to Apple workstations". Proudly my ass, that's laughable tactics.

The next thing they ripped off was the PocketPC by Microsoft. Smartphones were around for years now, but the iPhone, which did practically nothing extraordinary, and still doesn't, was marketed as something new and innovative. It's GUI was stolen from Samsung, btw. Guess who sued who? Apple sued Samsung. The nerve...

Apple has two things covered. The first is their marketing techniques, the second are sticky, thieving hands. The entire company is based on ripping people off, and it's a magnet for morons that want to be trendy and like to swap their purposely obselete hardware for a "new" model every year. End of story.
 
[quote name='Foxi4' post='3780023' date='Jul 18 2011, 11:30 AM']
So I bought a new laptop two or three days ago., An Acer Aspire 7551-7422, and I'm gonna flaunt it for a minute.

HAHAHA!

No, really. Good specs, but Acers tend to overheat. I suggest lowering the stock voltage-per-core NOW and fool around with stepping or else you'll *eventually* get to the point where your lovely Acer will become a very annoying piece of tech dump.
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I have the Acer Aspire 6930G, and I haven't had a problem with it overheating in over 2 years...but that IS because i got a cooler when i bought the laptop (prolongs the life and doesn't make your legs go on fiiiire!!)
I'm guessing most laptops can get pretty damn hot..so a cooler is essential! - Acer or not.

I just updated my Hard drive to the Scorpio black 500GB the other day actually (because i needed more room and i wanted it to run a little faster) On changing it my boyfriend noticed I could change the RAM as well...so I'll be saving a few pretty pennies for an improvement.

Overall, my whole family have Acer laptops, as does my boyfriend and no ones had a problem..apart from my brother (his screened flickered white all the time and his camera stopped working) but that was just a dodgy build..and he didn't bother sending it back in warranty..idiot.

Have fun :)
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780869' date='Jul 18 2011, 11:49 PM'][quote name='Foxi4' post='3780861' date='Jul 18 2011, 10:43 PM']You on the other hand are a laughable, gullible person who's right where Jobs wants you to be. Do yourself a favour and hand him over the rest of your money before your Apple product becomes obselete. It might happen any minute now - Apple's known to release new editions of their hardware every 15 nanoseconds.

To conclude, Sony laptops are top-of-the-line. If I were to compare the Macbook setup to a "cheaper" company, you'd probably be a $1500 short, not a $1000.[/quote]

new product? i'll buy that shit

sony? economy laptops for poors, windows, awful build quality, etc
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Read my edited post and leave. Sorry, but a $1000 bucks of a price difference for the same build makes you look like a complete moron, stop making a fool of yourself and just admit defeat - Apple is anything but reasonably priced.
 
Hmmm my reply double posted :(
Excuse this >_<

I Second Foxi4's opinion on Apple - rip off merchants.
 
its great :D i also bought a new lap and the first thing iv done was
1.update windows :)
2.install ubuntu
but i had problems with the wifi card :s
but now is ok ,also i just have only 2.5h of battery :cry: which kinda suck ,now its like 2.5-3 h coz of the new linux kernel but still ......it suck
so you will have more battery once you go linux :D
but you have a nice one !!!
congrat and treat it well :)
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780901' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:08 AM']solution: don't use linux or pc craptops, buy a mac and enjoy 9 hours of battery life.[/quote]

*sighs* I realize that you need some sort of confirmation that your overpriced purchase was well-motivated and "right", but...

It's not.
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Mmm-kay?
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780908' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:14 AM']you're wrong + stupid just fyi[/quote]

That's the grown-up response I was waiting for. I'm glad that we finally came to a close here, I shall leave now, in case your idiocy is contagious.
 
[quote name='MTWdeluxe' post='3780901' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:08 AM'][quote name='master00d' post='3780892' date='Jul 18 2011, 11:03 PM']its great :D i also bought a new lap and the first thing iv done was
1.update windows :)
2.install ubuntu
but i had problems with the wifi card :s
but now is ok ,also i just have only 2.5h of battery :cry: which kinda suck ,now its like 2.5-3 h coz of the new linux kernel but still ......it suck
so you will have more battery once you go linux :D
but you have a nice one !!!
congrat and treat it well :)[/quote]

solution: don't use linux or pc craptops, buy a mac and enjoy 9 hours of battery life.
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dont use linux?:wtf:
and what use mac or win with real money :tpi: for those crap performances they have with the "craptops"
aslo i use a battery which on win is like 2 h and 3h on linux coz i have a 6 cell battery,but if i had a 9 cell one the battery would be even better
also a mac costs like x2 the original prize of a laptop .............:wtf:
you having a mac .......doesnt mean the other are craptop
 

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