(Really) using WiFi for the first time… and “Smart”-devices shocked me

In the last couple of days I shared my internet connection with new neighbors. No, I don’t share my connection with strangers. We were friends long before they moved here. The internet providers are slow as **** and were not able to provide their connection on time.

This was the first time I had to deal with two things I normally avoid like the plague: WiFi and “Smart”-devices. This blog entry is close to being a rant – maybe I chose some too extreme words. I’m clearly in a very small minority with my opinion. I hate WiFi and I hate "Smart"-devices. But I have my reasons for this (I will not include everything in detail because it is already long enough).

Part 1: WiFi trouble
The only reason for me to turn on WiFi (for minutes) in the past was to check the eShop with the 3DS because it does not have Ethernet. Setting up a WiFi network so that it worked across the street was a pain and required an outdoor access point and drilling a hole from my bedroom to the outside. Buying this was not a waste – we will continue to use this for sharing network resources, incremental offsite backups (don’t even think about an initial full backup – that would take ages) and the like.
It does not work.

Example #1:

Friend: “Why do you still have wired keyboard and mouse?”
Sinchen: “Because it works. Wireless does not work reliably.”
Friend: “My keyboard never had any problems. I hate cables.”
Sinchen: (tries to use friends keyboard) “Does not work.”
Friend: “What?! Must be the batteries. Or try the sync button!”
Sinchen: “…”
Friend: (inserts new batteries, taps repeatedly on ‘sync’. Five minutes later…) “There you go.”
Sinchen (Uses computer for some minutes.) “Keyboard does not work – again.”
Friend: “It never did anything like that!!

Example #2:
I forgot to turn off the WiFi after using it for the 3DS. The laptop does know the WPA2-PSK (I had to test the WiFi card when I got the computer) and I was wanted to copy a huge amount of data to my main computer. Signal strength nearly 100%, WiFi type “n” – up to 300MBit/s. Laziness won and I did not stand up to get the Ethernet cable. Actual transfer rate: below 50 Mbit/s.
Laziness lost! I stood up and grabbed the cable. Actual transfer rate: about 1GBit/s.

Example #3:
Tried to use the Wii U Gamepad without TV in the next room: Forget it. Direct line of sight and don’t dare to put a piece of paper in between. I’m surprised Wii remotes work pretty good in the same room as the console.

Honestly, I’ve never had such problems when connecting computers to the internet. Even the 56k-Modem in the 1990s never made such a nonsense like this wireless garbage. Sadly I’m not allowed to mount a cable on both roofs and span it across the street. That would work immediately. Whatever we tried with repeaters, antenna positioning according to 100s of contradictory advises it was impossible to bridge 20 meters reliably while both, the indoor access point and the repeater, were positioned at the windows.

After hours of trying… all attempts were in vain. I lost my temper and ordered that outdoor thing. Standing on a ladder, five meters above the ground, to mount that thing to the outer wall was the next funny part. Finally my friends got internet access and we can combine our networks.

Part 2: “Smart”-devices

My personal opinion on this is: Putting a computer into a thing does not make it smart. This is more or less a marketing buzzword. Everything has to be smart nowadays. The local waste disposal company put RFID-chips on every garbage can and send letters to all customers: “Your garbage can is now smart.” Ehh… no! The garbage cans have the electronic equivalent of label with a number on it. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not want computers in all everyday things around me. Computers I cannot even (really) control, that receive no patches and offer nothing (for me at least; again: personal opinion). I do not need a washing machine that can be controlled from a phone. To fill and empty the machine you still have to walk there. While filling, you stand right before it → No need for remote control via app.
A TV should turn on fast, not boot an operating system. And when the TV is five years old and not supported anymore I still want to use it. Therefore I watch my content with a Raspberry Pi – and no app is ever too old for doing stuff because my content comes form my main PC.

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In my home network I use Pi-Hole for blocking all things I do not want:
  • Known malware domains
  • Trackers
  • Porn
But on the blocklists are also a lot of things which my computers never would try to access:
  • Windows telemetry
  • Facebook
  • Google services
This is because I sometimes repair computers or reinstall operating systems for other people. Their computers might try to connect to those.

Computer used forbidden DNS-query!
But it failed!
Pi-Hole used big blocking list!
It’s super effective!

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And then my friends connected their home network to mine. A day later I opened pi.hole/admin and could not believe my eyes: There were 1000s of blocked DNS queries! Various Facebook domains, Various Alexa related domains, app.measurement.com, settings.crashlytics.com…

I asked them: “What did you do?”
Answer: “Nothing. Logged in the “smart”phones and Alexa-device and went to bed.”

They did not do anything. And their devices tried to connect to all sort of garbage while not in use. Every few minutes. Okay, I should have told them not to try to include an Alexa-thing in my network, but the phones… I seriously did no expect phones which almost everybody uses to do things like that without user interaction. These things are even worse than I thought. Maybe it is possible to configure a “smart”-phone so it does not do garbage like this. I don’t know if this can be done – without root privileges (Wait a moment… Why am I not root on my phone by default?!) and without much work.




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I do not want to study this topic and chose to stay away from “smart”-devices. This gets harder and harder. Often I’m treated like some kind of infectious mad alien because of my refusal to buy such a phone – and it gets harder and harder to use things without such a phone. “You cannot do this without our app.” is what I've heard quite a few times.
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@sarkwalvein
Now I understand what you wanted to say. There are a lot of wrong assumptions in your assessment. What I do agree on is: This is kind of a rant and I wrote it to vent frustration. (Trying to establish a WiFi connection for hours without success is frustrating, isn’t it?).

The problem I face every time when writing something for the blog is “tl;dr”. That is a sad thing. Most people are not willing to read long texts anymore. While the blog is mostly done for myself (sorting thoughts), it is a nice addition when somebody actually reads it. Providing loads of arguments and explanatory statements would make already long posts even longer.

loss of tolerance and rejection of change associated with old age
I am not
  • against change in general
  • that old (in my mid-thirties)
  • intolerant
My text is somewhat polemic but how does it show intolerance? If it does, this was unintentional. Did I say at some point people should stop using their smart-devices and WiFi?¹ The opposite is true: I will not repeat some of the name-calling I got to hear just because of not having a smartphone. “Vollidiotin” is one of the mildest words.

in fact it is natural human behavior to reject learning or become incapable of tolerating new technologies, customs, and so on
Rejection just because of ‘new’ and ‘unknown’ maybe part of human nature when getting older – but it is not a good thing. We humans have intellect and we should try to work against this. When rejecting something, please do have a better reason for that.

WiFi: I did learn about it. I did try it – more than once… and came to the conclusion that it does not meet my expectations. It is not good enough for what I want to do. Nevertheless under the current circumstances I mounted this outdoor access point and will use this suboptimal technology for combining two networks.

If somebody is happy with WiFi: Fine. Where is the problem? If it works for them, I will not throw Ethernet cables at them while yelling: “This newfangled wireless nonsense is no good!(Imagine this in the Grampa Simpson's voice)
The problem is that people come to me: “You are into computers! My WiFi does not work in the bedroom…” and they expect me to solve their problems. Well… I solved my problem with Ethernet cables. Please, dear people around me, be tolerant enough to accept this… And do not expect me to come to your house and play around with antennas, different repeaters and whatnot just because you dislike cables – or your network printer came without an RJ45 connector and refuses to connect to the WiFi while the router is one meter away. (Yes, that did happen.)

Smartphones: Pretty much everybody uses them – regardless of age. One does not have to learn much to simply use such a phone. The complexity starts with my strong privacy concerns.² Concerns that many people do not have (anymore?). To be able to reject smartphones because of privacy concerns I already had to do a lot of reading/learning. I am simply not confident that I could handle that task (learning enough³ to have a good feeling while carrying smartphone connected to the internet).

Nevertheless it was a shocking to see the amount of connections these things tried to establish while not in use. If I turn on my computer – connected to the internet – it looks for software updates and that’s it. Not doing anything? Computer will not query anything!


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People may do whatever they want. I will not interfere. None of my business. When it comes to my home network and using my connection to the internet: I dare to make the rules and do not have to provide reasons for that. I’m not obliged to tolerate queries to Alexa, Windows telemetry, app.measurement.com, settings.crashlytics.com,… no matter if this is interpreted as intolerance or pointless “Yelling at clouds”.


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¹ One case were I do tell people to stop using their phones is when somebody is sitting at the wheel. I definitely have no tolerance for writing WhatsApp messages while driving a car. Such people should be banned from driving.
² That is a completely different topic and would require an essay on it’s own.
³ Which phone for custom ROM, removing Google apps, monitoring behavior, does “X” even work without Google SafetyNet…
 
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I am not a Fan of WiFi too.For me it is an insubordination everyone can see you....
Yes you can hide your Network and then ? Most of "older" Devices no longer "find" your Network.....
And if you want a very good Connection you need very good Hardware.
A nine Year old Netgear Router ? Throw it in the bin.

More and more Frequences and Channels......
If you are a "very sensitive" one,you are in serious troubles today.....
And it is very economical and certainly "healthy" if 31 People in an perimeter of 20-30 Meter have WiFi.

WiFi does not affect your health,your consciousness and your behavior.......
......just like Smartphones.That's for sure.....
 
@MythicalData They do make a blender for ~$200 more that has some of the app features built in (it's also got a quieter housing). I decided that paying so much more would be worse value & in retrospect I think I was right.

For safety reasons they don't allow remote/automatic blending, plus you use fresh ingredients & so it would need to be attached to your fridge for jetson mode. However I don't see why we won't up with a fridge that automatically weighed and added ingredients and blended them.

@KleinesSinchen The "you're into computers" people can be annoying, the best thing to do is find something they are into and start bugging them about things in return. If that doesn't work then suggesting they try moving their router (which will probably be too much hassle and won't fit with their aesthetics).

Next step would be either to use a mesh of wifi routers or ethernet over mains adapters (or both). Once they start having to spend money then that filters out some of them.

Running an ethernet cable is usually my last resort recommendation because they usually want holes drilled and nice face plates all fitted and wired up. For most people ethernet speeds are overkill.

Your use case should have been relatively simple to setup, I would suggest it was made difficult because of the router that you were using. Cheap/free routers are fine if you're able to run openwrt on them. but are usually too limited & untested if you can't.

The quality of the antennae is also linked to the cost, some older routers had external antennae connections which allowed you to hook up pringles tubes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantenna If you can't see an antennae or there is just one small one, then distance could be an issue.
 
WiFi i'm using for a long time now. It started with 2.4 GHz and now i'm almost exclusively using 5 GHz because it's just superior. Faster, more channels and less noise because of shorter range (and because it's still not as common as 2.4). The last point is both an advantage and disadvantage at the same time. It works fine but reconnects do happen a few times every week on average.
I would prefer Ethernet myself but running all these cables through my home is not so nice.

As for "smart" devices:
I agree. Why the fuck does everything need Bluetooth or WiFi? The blender example above makes me puke. It's one thing adding useful functionality but it's another moving functionality the device can do itself to smartphones. There is simply no value to it.
Then there are the Internet of Things devices which in theory sound nice and try to make your life easier if it were not for them to phone home all sorts of telemetry data and some requiring cloud bullshit. And let's not forget security. Literally no manufacturer of smart/IoT devices gives a fuck about security which results in tons of infected devices ending up as crypto miners or botnets.

Just leaving this here: https://twitter.com/InternetOfShit
 
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I think I got wifi in around 2012. Worked fine, loved not dealing with modem wires anymore. Was fantastic. Used wifi for everything except my gaming PC all the way up until I moved. Now, I cannot for the life of me manage to have stable wifi. It's driving me absolutely insane. I am two inches from the router, and I get poor connection, and any site takes minutes to load. Downloading updates on my phone takes hours, because it'll lose connection constantly. I've had the AT&T guy out dozens of times. Nothing helps. I'm at the point where I'm considering drilling all over my house to have ethernet lines to literally everything.

This blog is a bit extremist towards wifi, but man, the aggravation of something not working--I totally get you.
 
I just remembered this article from 2016 [German language]
https://www.golem.de/news/internet-...n-gegen-smarten-wasserkocher-1610-123785.html

It's only linked source was a tweet (tweet/account seems to be deleted). I could not open it even after circumventing my own blocking with Tor Browser. But thankfully there is the Wayback Machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20161012170824/https://twitter.com/markrittman/status/785751015517814784

This is a perfect example of a not smart device.
Dear water kettle for £100: You had one job! Boil the water.

According to the article he tried 11 hours to convince this thing in boiling water for tea. Sorry to say this: I would have thrown this thing right out of the window. It is faster to make a fire an hang a pot above it. What is the point of having a WiFi water kettle?

Me: Fills in water, pushes button
My Kettle: Boils water in a minute
Me: Pours boling water into teapot
 
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@ghjfdtg Everything can have the functionality built in if you include the additional cost in every item.

Most people have phones or tablets and so offloading does save money. Home automation is something people have been pushing for since the 50's. It's inevitable.
 
And then you pay them extra for their cost savings because it has "smart" written on the box.

I'm not entirely against home automation but if, then entirely under my control and as secure as possible. The devices should do exactly what i want and what is advertised and nothing more or less. No cloud or telemetry bullshit please. If i start with home automation in the future i will try and build as much of it as i can myself to avoid the commercial solutions. And in the process i can learn something new aswell so win-win.
 
@ghjfdtg capitalism eventually solves the pricing problem. In my country they don't even admit there is an app, probably because they want to push the more expensive blender. I only found out about it by googling. When I asked the uk sales people they denied all knowledge of it.
 
if you want longer wifi range then build a yagi antenna. You could get that shit going a mile away.
 

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