[jurassicplayer]

Chadrcheze, on 13 November 2011 - 04:16 AM, said:

And the whole Windows system IS based off of Apple's operating system, as well as their Zune being based off of the ipod. And the Chadrcheze edition dosen't have the fixed setup.exe the reason that it works is because I deleted that one file In fact there are 2 other files containing japanese text in the root folder, but you probably didn't notice them because you don't really pay attention to detail. And just how slow is your piece of crap computer if it's quicker to download them individually than in one file. And by the way an extra 29.3 MB isn't that much when compared to a game file of 50 - 600 MB for a single game. As I have stated before "I only did it to help people", which it obviously has since miketh2005 suggested that others use it, in another thread.

Based off of isn't the same as "Oh hay, nice idea. Let's take exact idea, put more premade themes on". Generally, one would think that Windows was taken and actually had something DONE in order to change it so it isn't just "exact same thing but with more themes". It's forking. Your package isn't even a fork, it's a quick compilation of a few themes you happen to like and the core program. I have long come to terms with the fact that most of the stuff today isn't original, after all I didn't spontaneously learn math.

Now I'm quite done with talking. So, I'll let the user burn the energy to see what they want to do.
To the user, here are the facts:
1) A CRC checksum is unique to each and every file, provided that file is not a duplicate/copy. (wiki)
2) The CRC32 checksum of Chadrcheze's setup.exe is the exact same as the fixed setup.exe, meaning it is the same file regardless of where, how, when it came from whether Chadrcheze acknowledges that it is the same or not.
3) If you download the original filetrip download (here), delete the text file with a Japanese name located in the /moonshl2/extlink/TextEdit/ folder and run the setup.exe included, the program will fail and crash (provided you don't have an Asian Os).
4) This issue was addressed by Moonlight and the fix had this changelog:

Quote

For all users. Thank you for a lot of reports. I am sorry. ChildZwai was not able to be installed with "Windows other than Japanese".

The file that restores this problem is as follows. Please copy the unpacked file onto setup.exe of ChildZwai.

- avenir aptly summarized the problem in his post (link)
5) The package has skin files that add 4 minutes to the regular download (100KB/s) and it's not even convenient to preview them. You have to manually add them to the flashcart and then test each one individually just to see what they look like rather than just visit this thread and scroll down the list of previews and links. In my opinion, those 4 minutes could be better spent doing a quick scroll down the first post and all of the skins and getting the themes you want rather than spend 4 minutes getting the themes included and then having to spend another number of minutes just to see what they look like.
6) At least three people well versed in the workings of Moonshell2 have told him that the setup.exe problem was a language/OS issue (Mbmax, avenir, and myself), but he persists in believing that it isn't what Moonlight, avenir (who is also Japanese), Mbmax, and myself have told him.
7) I know pretty much every single file in the Moonshell2 download as well as what they are used for (so I also know exactly what the setup.exe copies over).

I have once had someone bothered by the problem that Moonshell2 was just TOO large for his small bandwidth for the month and if it weren't for the size, he would invest a bit to try it (and I helped with that...though it took a number of tries, I was able to get to the bare minimum of around 5-10MB by removing a variety of files). So yes, I try to keep in mind the people that I have helped before, but you don't see me putting "Moonshell 2.10 Child Zwai Minimal (Jurassicplayer Edition)" on filetrip because really I didn't do much. I deleted a bunch of files and burnt time testing it again and again, but really nothing critical. Your package takes less effort than that and you have the gall to slap your username onto it and distribute it.

[Chadrcheze]

And once again your just tip-toing around the point. Obviously you don't understand what I stated earlier. So I will type it in larger print: I only uploaded it to help people, which it obviously has since other people have had the same problem & have suggested the chadrcheze edition to others. And since you OBVIOUSLY don't pay attention, here is my quote from the file download: (Disclaimer) I Take No Credit For The  Moonshell, Splash.ani, Or Skins Contained Within This Folder. I Am Simply Uploading Them Because The One On Filetrip.net Is Not Working. Now why don't you just quit criticizing others as you do in practically every thread on this site. Do you really not have a life, that you must tease and pick on others. Or are you just that insecure about yourself that you must point out even the most obvious of facts. I never once said that I created any of it. And since you don't pay attention I'll say it again: I never once said that I created any of it. "(Disclaimer) I Take No Credit For The  Moonshell, Splash.ani, Or Skins Contained Within This Folder. I Am Simply Uploading Them Because The One On Filetrip.net Is Not Working." So just shut up and quit insulting people.

[s4mid4re]

Chadrcheze, on 13 November 2011 - 12:49 PM, said:

And once again your just tip-toing around the point. Obviously you don't understand what I stated earlier. So I will type it in larger print: I only uploaded it to help people, which it obviously has since other people have had the same problem & have suggested the chadrcheze edition to others. And since you OBVIOUSLY don't pay attention, here is my quote from the file download: (Disclaimer) I Take No Credit For The Moonshell, Splash.ani, Or Skins Contained Within This Folder. I Am Simply Uploading Them Because The One On Filetrip.net Is Not Working. Now why don't you just quit criticizing others as you do in practically every thread on this site. Do you really not have a life, that you must tease and pick on others. Or are you just that insecure about yourself that you must point out even the most obvious of facts. I never once said that I created any of it. And since you don't pay attention I'll say it again: I never once said that I created any of it. "(Disclaimer) I Take No Credit For The Moonshell, Splash.ani, Or Skins Contained Within This Folder. I Am Simply Uploading Them Because The One On Filetrip.net Is Not Working." So just shut up and quit insulting people.

You really have to calm down.

1) It probably didn't work because you used the unfixed one (although I really have no way to prove this, JP clearly proved that it does work)
2) The CRC for your file and the fixed file were identical. I have no knowledge whatsoever on CRCs, but even I can tell that your file is the fucking same as the fixed one.
3) Why is your name on the downloaded file if you "Take No Credit For... [files] Contained Within This Folder..."? I mean, that was his point all along...

Edited by s4mid4re, 13 November 2011 - 01:05 PM.

[Chadrcheze]

As you can see from this video, it dosen't work with the japanese text file. But it does work without it. So obviously jurassicplayer dosen't know what he's talking about, because if I did have the updated setup.exe file, it would have worked with and without the japanese text file. Since it didn't work with it that proves that I was right. And jurassicplayer did move the fixed setup.exe file to the chadrcheze edition before running it. By the way if you have two or more .exe files with the same name windows will run the most current up to date version regardless of which one you click on. And the CRC is a code that 7zip uses to identify each file. It has nothing what so ever to do with the programs version.

[Mbmax]

Here is the official fix released by Moonlight a couple of days after his MoonShell 2.10 Stable Child Zwai Edition (Full Package) : http://filetrip.net/file.php?id=12849
I just downloaded your package from filetrip and the set up.exe has the exact same CRC (2CCAAE84) then moonlight's fix as jurassicplayer said.

I really don't know why you can't understand that fact. Same CRC= same file.

Edited by Mbmax, 13 November 2011 - 05:36 PM.

[Chadrcheze]

And like I said before CRC is a code that 7zip uses to identify each file. CRC stands for Cyclic Redundancy check, which is a code 7zip uses to detect accidental changes to raw computer data.

CRCs are specifically designed to protect against common types of errors on communication channels, where they can provide quick and reasonable assurance of the integrity of messages delivered. However, they are not suitable for protecting against intentional alteration of data. Firstly, as there is no authentication, an attacker can edit a message and recalculate the CRC without the substitution being detected. This is even the case when the CRC is encrypted, leading to one of the design flaws of the WEP protocol.^[3] Secondly, the linear properties of CRC codes even allow an attacker to modify a message in such a way as to leave the check value unchanged,^[4][5] and otherwise permit efficient recalculation of the CRC for compact changes. Nonetheless, it is still often falsely assumed that when a message and its correct check value are received from an open channel then the message cannot have been altered in transit.^[6]
Cryptographic hash functions, while still not providing security against intentional alteration when used in this manner, can provide stronger error checking in that they do not rely on specific error pattern assumptions.^{[citation needed]} However, they are much slower than CRCs, and are therefore commonly used to protect off-line data, such as files on servers or databases.
When stored alongside the data, CRCs and cryptographic hash functions by themselves do not protect against intentional modification of data. Any application that requires protection against such attacks must use cryptographic authentication mechanisms, such as message authentication codes.

To sum it all up here is a link to all you need to know about CRC. http://en.wikipedia....edundancy_check Next time you might want to try a little research before criticizing people and taking sides with someone when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[jurassicplayer]

Remade the video with my camera because the quality made it really hard to see (I couldn't really read anything besides the text file). The talking isn't super related to anything at all, so you don't have to listen to it.

Warning! Spoiler inside. 

Edited by jurassicplayer, 14 November 2011 - 05:03 AM.

[Mbmax]

@Chadrcheze : Man ... what is your problem ?
I know what a CRC is ! and i also know there is an extremely low probability to have the exact same CRC on both file named set up.exe with the same size/date and time !
Now if you are still thinking your packaged file isn't the same than the one moonlight provided just check the md5 of both files or hex compare them !

Enough said now. We are wasting our time here ...

Edited by Mbmax, 14 November 2011 - 08:01 AM.

[nodacrunch]

question:

how to play the full length of 1hr + video since i having a problem to play it with  moonshell

[pikakai]

apparently sound on  moonshell (playing mp3 etc.) doesnt work on r4 and some clones. i found a fix, use an alternative loader or  wood r4 (or wood r4 for clones for r4 clones)

---

Posts merged

apparently sound on  moonshell (playing mp3 etc.) doesnt work on r4 and some clones. i found a fix, use an alternative loader or wood r4 (or wood r4 for clones for r4 clones)

---

Posts merged

apparently sound on  moonshell (playing mp3 etc.) doesnt work on r4 and some clones. i found a fix, use an alternative loader or wood r4 (or wood r4 for clones for r4 clones)

---

Posts merged

apparently sound on  moonshell (playing mp3 etc.) doesnt work on r4 and some clones. i found a fix, use an alternative loader or wood r4 (or wood r4 for clones for r4 clones)

[pikakai]

sorry about quadruple post. my cellphone does not want to work right today