Gaming will sony reallly be sueing people?

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This would not surprise me if sony started going after everyone like the mafia. Look at their track record so far in the past few months. Sony paid off customs in many countries to rip open packages and confiscate jailbreak dongles. They are bringing lawsuit against many people, most of which they don't know exactly who that person is. They removed linux from old fat models. They removed 3rd party usb support.

Especially those people who have been using cfw to play on PSN, sony will surely go after those ppl because they have violated the EULA and sony is in complete legal grounds to sue them.

Like I said, even if sony thinks that they don't have a chance in hell to sue everyone, I would not put it past them to at least try fr it because most ppl can't hire a lawyer and so those ppl will lose the lawsuit and have to pay up to sony or have criminal charges against them.
 

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I can agree with you there, but the document proves it. Maybe sony might not sue everyone who viewed it, but with as anal as they are they could use that for evidence against geohot and they can still look into the other people to see what their significance is to the scene.
 

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Suing everybody who watches a vid seems quite strange. I don't have a PS3, I did watch the video and talk about it on the internets. Now, what are they suing me for again?

Besides. In order to sue me they would have to know who I am. And they don't. So it's not going to happen.
 

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Thinking about it, Sony employees themselves watched the video, so are they going to sue themselves?
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DeadlyFoez said:
Especially those people who have been using cfw to play on PSN, sony will surely go after those ppl because they have violated the EULA and sony is in complete legal grounds to sue them.

Somehow I doubt that is true. Afaik the EULA applies to PSN, so violation of the agreement could only apply to playing online and result in a ban at most. Suing is practically impossible. After all, what would they sue for? Damages? No damages are done on PSN with modded consoles. A cease and desist? Pointless, a ban would do the trick. So it's quite impossible to get a good case together.

As for the PS3 itself: when I buy one from a retailer, it means that I undergo a business-deal with him, and Sony is not a part of that agreement (and the fact that they made the machine is irrelevant - after all, they let go of it when they sold it to the retailer). The only breach of agreement occurs if the retailer tells me that he will sell me the PS3 under the condition that I don't softmod it, I agree to that and softmod it anyway. But as long as that agreement was not part of the transaction, I'm off the hook.

Well, I'm off to watch the video again - just to make sure they know I did.
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ferdi-t said:
As for the PS3 itself: when I buy one from a retailer, it means that I undergo a business-deal with him, and Sony is not a part of that agreement (and the fact that they made the machine is irrelevant - after all, they let go of it when they sold it to the retailer). The only breach of agreement occurs if the retailer tells me that he will sell me the PS3 under the condition that I don't softmod it, I agree to that and softmod it anyway. But as long as that agreement was not part of the transaction, I'm off the hook.
That's not exactly true. If the PS3 breaks (YLoD), you don't send it to the retailer to get it fixed (unless you have one of those extended warranties that you have to pay for), you send it to Sony. The retailers are just the "middle-party", that makes the process of Sony selling you their product easier. Once they've made the sale, and the "cooling off period" (usually between 10 days and a month) expires, they wash their hands of you and tell you to take up any issues with Sony directly. Well, at least most places do, depending on company policy. Some prefer the quicker method of just replacing the faulty unit and sending it to Sony for repairs, only to be resold as second-hand. The problem with that method is that it's liable to abuse (e.g. with the Wanin V1 bricks), so more retailers don't do it anymore.
 

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I wouldn't say you are wrong about what you wrote because I am not familiar with the law in every territory. In my country the opposite from what you wrote is true. If you get a YLOD, the retailer is legally obligated to replace or refund the console.

This extends to to full length of the economic life-expectancy of a console, which is regarded two or three years to consumer electronics. So if a PS3 breaks down after 18 months, it's the obligation of the retailer to take action. Obviously the law doesn't object if punters send them to the manufacturer directly.

But like I said: this could be different in some other European countries.
 

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Are you guys blind? Sony can and will try to sue everyone possible. Hell, they are suing people for their open source tools that did not use any inch of sony code. If sony is willing to try that then they are willing to try anything. The sky is the limit for sony. They just want to push their weight around.
 

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I didn't see that video, but even if Sony were to obtain my ip, they can't obtain my address. Only my isp has my address and they don't give addresses to anyone, regardless if the person in question pirate. They'd only break that rule for Child porn.

So sadly for Sony, they wouldn't be able to find me anyway.
 

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^^Amen to that. Sony would not be able to find me by IP because I am leeching off of someone else in my neighborhood. But if they were to search up DeadlyFoez then they could easily find my personal address and that would suck.
 

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If a pirate gets sued I hope its this guy:

xxxx says:
February 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Now that DNS trick is no longer working my PSN Games are now in Trial mode. These Games are paid for and Sony have no right to put my paid Games in Trial mode.
My PS3 is CWF 3.55 all my Games are paid for and none are downloads my ps3 blu ray drive stopped working before CFW 3.55
and now works my warranty is up so Sony want to repair it with cost for a new one well I never.
what can I do?

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February 10, 2011 at 5:03 am
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February 10, 2011 at 10:06 am
heres what you do…take off your pants, put them on your head, and run down the street

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This isn't looking good guys:

QUOTE said:
The judge had originally ruled weeks ago that Hotz must surrender all of his computer gear to Sony. But Kellar asked for reconsideration, and a hearing was hastily called Thursday

Illston informed Kellar that it was routine for the entire contents of computers to be searched in a bid to isolate what is being sought, as in child pornography prosecutions.

“Your honor, we’re certainly not dealing with child pornography in this issue,” Kellar replied.

Moments later, the judge responded:

“Here, I find probable cause that your client has got these things on his computer,” she said. “It’s a problem when more than one thing is kept on the computer. I’ll make sure the order is and will be that Sony is only entitled to isolate … the information on the computer that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation.”

Meanwhile, Sony is threatening to sue anybody posting the code, even though Sony accidentally tweeted it earlier this week.
 

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Giga_Gaia said:
I didn't see that video, but even if Sony were to obtain my ip, they can't obtain my address. Only my isp has my address and they don't give addresses to anyone, regardless if the person in question pirate. They'd only break that rule for Child porn.

So sadly for Sony, they wouldn't be able to find me anyway.
may i ask who your ISP is even though you are all the way in quebec ?
 

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DeadlyFoez said:
Hell, they are suing people for their open source tools that did not use any inch of sony code. If sony is willing to try that then they are willing to try anything.
They're not suing with the claim that the code infringes copyright, but that it's a tool used to do it, and in the US trafficking in copyright infringement tools can be against the law depending on the circumstances (see DVDdecryptor getting dropped and formed into another tool that doesn't break CSS, for an example of such a thing).

Remember, there's more illegal stuff when it comes to intellectual property than copyright infringement by copying a produced work.
 

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DeadlyFoez said:
Are you guys blind? Sony can and will try to sue everyone possible. Hell, they are suing people for their open source tools that did not use any inch of sony code. If sony is willing to try that then they are willing to try anything. The sky is the limit for sony. They just want to push their weight around.
Obviously Sony can sue anyone they want to, we live in a free world. But if they do, they should loose a lot of those cases, as people who watched a youtube vid have done nothing wrong. So it'll only end up costing them a lot of money.
 

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