Hacking Wii Mode Keys!!! Thanks crediar.

[DeadlyFoez]

Via @crediar

The WiiMode keys are ours! http://crediar.no-ip.com/OTPKeysWiiMode.jpg

As SifJar says

To the people on the first page wondering what this actually means; the keys mean practically nothing. They're the ones that have been well known for years from the Wii. The ones that are different are the console specific ones.

The key thing here is the fact that a piece of software running on the WiiU was able to access them. IOS by default won't let code access these keys. You have to bypass the security. In other words, this is evidence of an IOS exploit from crediar. Which means that, using that exploit, it should be possible to install stuff (e.g. HBC etc.). I'd say it's more of a proof of concept for the IOS exploit, rather than "look, I got the keys".

 

[jalaneme]

this feels like the ps3 scene all over again LOL, hopefully we can get something from this.

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Thanks for the update, awesome news!!!

 

[dimmujed]

Could someone explain what this means in terms of potential and hacking?

 

[arjaylight]

if im not mistaken, key will be used in signing ISO wii games, then it can be played even without hacking your wii/wiiU

 

[DiscostewSM]

sending nuke...
BOOM!
Collecting dust...

That made my day.

 

[Sly 3 4 me]

Let the games begin.

Great news though, hopefully results will exceed my expectations.

 

[Kikirini]

Ooh, awesome!

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

That was some cool news, thank you DeadlyFoez!!!!

Keys are always nice to have...

 

[JoostinOnline]

if im not mistaken, key will be used in signing ISO wii games, then it can be played even without hacking your wii/wiiU

You are mistaken. That will take the private key, which I doubt will be found for years, if ever. We don't have the Wii one.

 

[Rockhoundhigh]

Props to crediar again! I just hope everybody can keep their expectations in check for what this means.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

You are mistaken. That will take the private key, which I doubt will be found for years, if ever. We don't have the Wii one.

Since the Wii is pretty hacked, couldn't some one write a brute force key guesser thingy that could run on the Wii? I mean I am sure it could take a long ass time but if you could get maybe 10,000 people to run it on the Wii to break up the list it could speed things up a bit.

Something that would make some sort of fake ISO file and encrypt it with what ever key it was guessing (the file could be some small ISO with a small hello world on it.)

I probably am very wrong but that would be my theory on getting the private keys in a timely fashion.

P.S. I am very tired and I come up with these crazy theories late at night, so if it's complete poo poo please forgive me... lol

 

[VMM]

Is it possible to use emulators in Wii mode, with WiiU Pro Contoroller?

 

[DeadlyFoez]

It would still be something that could take a very very long time to do. If it was a reason approach then people would have already been doing that for other keys and shit for nearly everything that comes out. He, you can even use a shit load of great computers and it would still take forever.

 

[Zero]

I'm already getting the Wii U titles from NUS. They install on my Wii but don't appear on the menu.

 

[loco365]

I'm already getting the Wii U titles from NUS. They install on my Wii but don't appear on the menu.

How about the Wii Instructions Manual that appears on the Wii Menu on the WiiU? Can that be installed on a plain old Wii?

 

[Rydian]

Since the Wii is pretty hacked, couldn't some one write a brute force key guesser thingy that could run on the Wii? I mean I am sure it could take a long ass time but if you could get maybe 10,000 people to run it on the Wii to break up the list it could speed things up a bit.

Something that would make some sort of fake ISO file and encrypt it with what ever key it was guessing (the file could be some small ISO with a small hello world on it.)

I probably am very wrong but that would be my theory on getting the private keys in a timely fashion.

P.S. I am very tired and I come up with these crazy theories late at night, so if it's complete poo poo please forgive me... lol

Here's my copy-paste on the whole brute forcing idea, aimed at the DSi.


I present to you: "DSi Encryption Put In Perspective", also known as "I Love Crushing People's Dreams".

The DSi uses 128-bit encryption (IIRC).
How do you break it? You find the correct encryption key.

How many encryption keys are there? 2 (binary, a bit) to the 128th power (number of bits), divided by 8 (8 bits in a byte).
That's so many that the calculator that comes with windows (at least XP) can't even display the number without reverting to scientific notation.

128-bits is...
340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible values in binary.
However, Since there's 8 bits in a byte, you divide 128 by 8 and get 16. That's 16 bytes, 16 characters.
That's 18,446,744,073,709,552,000 possible values, ranging from 0x0000000000000000 to 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Eighteen quintillion possible keys.
The actual number is a bit less less since a key will be a certain number of digits and be designed to not have repeating segments, but this puts it in perspective.

Let's say that you have a computer program which can try 50,000 unique keys a second.
That's 3,000,000 keys a minute.
180,000,000 keys in an hour.
4,320,000,000 keys a day.
1,576,800,000,000 keys in one year.

It would take 11,698,848 years to try all the keys at that speed.

 

[Felipe_9595]

Here's my copy-paste on the whole brute forcing idea, aimed at the DSi.


I present to you: "DSi Encryption Put In Perspective", also known as "I Love Crushing People's Dreams".

The DSi uses 128-bit encryption (IIRC).
How do you break it? You find the correct encryption key.

How many encryption keys are there? 2 (binary, a bit) to the 128th power (number of bits), divided by 8 (8 bits in a byte).
That's so many that the calculator that comes with windows (at least XP) can't even display the number without reverting to scientific notation.

128-bits is...
340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible values in binary.
However, Since there's 8 bits in a byte, you divide 128 by 8 and get 16. That's 16 bytes, 16 characters.
That's 18,446,744,073,709,552,000 possible values, ranging from 0x0000000000000000 to 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Eighteen quintillion possible keys.
The actual number is a bit less less since a key will be a certain number of digits and be designed to not have repeating segments, but this puts it in perspective.

Let's say that you have a computer program which can try 50,000 unique keys a second.
That's 3,000,000 keys a minute.
180,000,000 keys in an hour.
4,320,000,000 keys a day.
1,576,800,000,000 keys in one year.

It would take 11,698,848 years to try all the keys at that speed.

If we get 10 million people to do it it would take 1 year!! LETS DO IT!!

(Totally jk, but some people may think i am serious)

 

[Zero]

I tried that, doesn't show up on the Wii Menu/ I suspect it's because the Virtual Wii install path is different than the Wii, but when I pack the wad the directory is in line with the Wii, so I don't know.

 

[loco365]

Weird. Wonder what's preventing them from showing. Perhaps some hex editing is in line.