Why do most mass murderers commit suicide?

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Feb 19, 2008
  1. IBNobody

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    Last week, there was another public mass shooting in the US. The tragedy got me thinking about the flawed social system we live in. One common element, though, kinda stuck out. It didn't make sense.

    Why do most of the mass murderers commit suicide?

    When you look at all the mass murders that have occurred in the US, very few of the killers walk out alive. You have a few that get gunned down by police, but most take their own lives. I can't think of any that live and go to court.

    Why do they kill themselves? Do they suffer from the "oh shit, I screwed up" syndrome? You'd think that some of those crazies (like the VT shooter) would have chosen to be captured in order to spread their messages. Hollywood always lets the mass murderers live (until the end of the movie). And it can't be linked to video games, that's for sure. You get negative frags for suicide.

    I dunno... Maybe since I'm not screwed up in the head, I can't understand their motives?
     


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    I'd imagine suicide is their first aim, the spreekill/self headshot is just the method. ie. they're gonna kill themselves anyway but they want to take vengeance on society and make a lasting impression. Or they just want to kill a load of people but don't want to face the consequences of being a pussy in the hardcore wing of prison. Plus you're likely to be shot by a cop rather than arrested anyway,this way they still "win" by carrying out their plan to the end rather than giving someone the satisfaction of taking them down. Any rate, I don't think the suicide is a spur of the moment thing, but more likely an integral part of the plan.
     
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    They're Cowards that dont want to face the consequences for what they have done...
     
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    they already hate their life, they want suicide but make the death better by killing who they hate. or they rather die from their own gun shot than life in prison
     
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    I'm pretty sure most premeditated their suicide, before they go on a shooting spree. I'm no homicidal maniac, but thats just what seems to be the most logical to me.
     
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    Well... Yeah... I guess they go into the thing knowing that their life is truly over. If they wanted to kill repeatedly, they'd be a serial killer.

    Still, why wouldn't more of them op for being shot by police? Charles Whitman, the UT campus sniper, held himself up in the clock tower for 2 hours until the police broke through his barricade and shot him.
     
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    Or they just don't want the buttsecks in Prison. [​IMG]
    (That was not meant to offend anyone)

    ~Nero
     
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    It's cuz they are scared of their punishment tor consequences and just chicken out by killing themselves. Simple as that.
     
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    Because they know they're in for a world of shit once they get caught. Killing themselves will seem to them to be the only way out once they went on the killing spree and there's no turning back.

    I think the dementia that caused them to go on the killing spree comes crashing down on them once they realize what they just did and they don't want to face the consequences and kill themselves to escape prosecution.

    In some cases the plan was to take as many people with them as they could when they decided to kill themselves. They came to hate everything that the world has become and have had enough and flipped out.

    In other cases, maybe they had a moment of what they thought was clarity and in their demented state came to the conclusion that the world is ridiculous, petty and pathetic and not worth all the hassle.


    Truth is, there are many multitudes of reasons for them to do what they did, but since they're dead now, we'll never find out what any particular person's reason was for doing what they did.

    Crazy people are crazy and anyone that goes on a killing spree then kills themselves is obviously nuts....who knows what kind of demented crap goes through their minds.

    Everyone has crazy, psychotic and/or demented thoughts every once in a while. The difference between a sane and a crazy person is whether they act on them or not.

    Yeah, psychology is a fascination of mine.
     
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    I'd imagine it's a combination of avoiding the consequences and that they originally planned on just committing suicide
     
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    Being as I was in the shoes of all these fucked up kids....I have to say that the current generation is all sheeps. Not to see I was mr. Original...I saw an after school episode where the kid blows away all the students... Hostage High and before that I was influenced by Pearl Jam's Jeremy


    The above two links as well as newspaper clippings from other gun shooting in schools inspired me....so I was just as much a lemming as the kids are now...but since my time was pre columbine I imagined me dying in a blaze of gunfire..... possibly because thats what my inspirations did? Not sure....But again to sum up the answer...kids are committing suicide because they are imitators....They are confused, unpopular, don't fit in to a social group, loners, angry, mistreated, broken homes, broken school systems....full of hate....and they don't know how to unleash it....and then one day the big TV has report of a tragic event that sounds....much like...its speaking to the kid....and then they think...hey thats not a bad idea...maybe I will just do that?

    It is tragic all the shooting but I think as long as their are cruel kids and exclusive social circles these things will continue to happen now that the ground work has been laid. After Columbine one kid said on the news "I guess now I will just have to try and be a nicer person"....I thought... wow...how sad it took that for someone to think those thoughts....but...not to bash on Americans...but no doubt her self absorbent kicked in and 2 weeks later that girl got preobsessed in her own concerns on what jeans Emennem was wearing, or who she was going with to the next social mixer...and she went back to being her regular snobby bitchy self.

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    for those that are new or ... well... we have a whole new MOD house...but I originally came clean about my story about two years ago... I am sane now... I wrote a movie about it the whole ordeal ... it was very therapeutic... again... I am much much better now
     
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    USA has nabbed 2nd and 4th, but the Koreans are damn good (we ended up with one of their best players though).

    http://spreekillers.org/
     
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    That is the total opposite of a funny thing.
     
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    Theres nothing to be laughing about. We've had our ass handed to Korea for 25 years.
     
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    When they run out of people that are easy to kill, they kill the last one, themselves
     
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    Correct. One point can make the difference between making the list or failing and sinking into obscurity (take Kazmierczak's spree last week for example).
     
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    You know the more and more I think about those days I have to say again...media is the influence...in my scenario...my blue prints...and hand drawn maps....I envisioned a a hostage type situation...much like the one in the movie I linked above...so I based almost everything on the fact that there would be a hostage situation... So again... I have to say that the people are following what they imitate...had the "pioneers" of mass murdering chose to go out in blaze of gun fire...all the other might have followed that path?

    Sure school shooting went on way before Columbine...shit I walked on to my school armed and ready 12 years ago...which would have been like 4 years pre columbine? But back then when I was fucked up the world was not...so media savy...every kid wasn't youtubin...and bloggin....a shooting hit your local news and newspaper and if you missed the story...you missed it. Now..forget about it...every detail worth talking about is reposted somewhere on the web so the newest generation of confused kids is much more saturated with ideas....much more influential....thats my take on the matter.
     
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