[UPDATED] Malaysia blocks Steam entirely to stop FIGHT OF GODS

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Released on Steam Early Access this week, Fight of Gods is a fighting game that features deities like Moses, Jesus, Zeus, Buddha and even Anubis!



If you thought it couldn't get even more intense, then you were wrong! The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission have called for a ban on the game and asked for it to be disabled within 24 hours or face further actions. And then Steam was entirely banned.

In a press release, PQube, the game's publisher, noted that "we never received any communications from Malaysian officials here at PQube, however reports seem to indicate that Malaysia has now blocked access to all of Steam in order to prevent access to Fight of Gods."

Talking to The Star about their actions, the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission had the following to say: "Malaysians respect all cultural and religious sensitivities, and the sale and distribution of the religiously insensitive and blasphemous games must be stopped immediately."

Below is a short statement on the matter from Digital Crafter and PQube:

Fight of Gods is a video game that takes a humorous approach to religion in the same way that other entertainment formats have – across television, film, books and theatre.

The game is not promoting any religious agenda and is not designed to offend. The description of the game on the digital platforms through which it is distributed provide clear guidance on the nature of the game and its content so that people can freely choose whether or not to play it. We fully respect the choice of those who would not wish to play it.

We are disappointed that such freedom of choice is not given to everyone and in particular that the game has been forcibly removed from sale in Malaysia, although no direct communication has been received by us as to the reasons for this. Nevertheless we respect any rules and censorship imposed in any given territory.


We have reached out to Steam and are working with them to resolve the situation as soon as possible.

Kotaku reached out to Valve and they replied with the following statement:

Right now players in Malaysia can access the games they own on Steam, but the Steam Store is being blocked by some local telcos in Malaysia. From reports we are reading, this is due to a single game that conflicts with local laws. We have contacted the developer, removed the game, and are attempting to make contact with the officials in Malaysia to remove the block. We apologize for any inconvenience.

So what do you think of this ban? Somewhat reminiscent of the Russian Pokémon GO player who was recently jailed for playing the game in a church, no?

UPDATE:

It seems like Steam has been unblocked in Malaysia while Fight of Gods has been removed from the digital game distribution platform in the country.

:arrow: SOURCE: GBAtemp Inbox
 
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Man, if I were one of the developers of this game I would do something really stupid right now cause I like to be a Troll sometimes.

I would add Allah and Mohammad, they would both be short fat and ugly. They would fight with body odor and gas.

I guess its a really good thing I'm not a developer.
 
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Equating any speech that offends someone to child pornography. Very intellectually honest of you. If you honestly can't tell the difference between speech and actions such as murder, child abuse, or even threats or inciting violence, then that's on you. I, however, will continue to stand up for the freedoms of speech and expression, and against people using "offence" as a way of silencing dissenting speech and ideas they don't like.

P.S. I found your comment very offensive and hateful :( I would like you to please delete it.

In a court of law, repeated and personal statements and suggestions of violence against someone is still a crime even if no actions come of it. Harassment and slander are still serious crimes. Freedom of speech does not mean being able to say whatever you want without being held accountable. Expressing hatred and bigotry in speech and gestures, more often than not, leads to those kinds of actions. It is not a matter of mere 'offense'. It is a matter of making statements or holding personal beliefs which are morally objectionable and damaging to society as a whole. You may cite freedom speech for allowing you to drive through a city shouting racial slurs out your car window, but that doesn't make you immune to real charges for disturbing the peace and inciting violence.

This is not a matter of informed. organized, dissenting speech. There is a major difference between civil discourse and a white power rally. There is a major difference between providing an honest telling of abuse, and a telling that sensationalizes the abuser. There is a difference between someone who maintains a respectful argument, and someone who immediately lapses into verbal diarrhea. Not all speech deserves to be spoken or heard, despite the internet giving every idiot their own megaphone and a sense of entitlement.
 
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Man, if I were one of the developers of this game I would do something really stupid right now cause I like to be a Troll sometimes.

I would add Allah and Mohammad, they would both be short fat and ugly. They would fight with body odor and gas.

I guess its a really good thing I'm not a developer.

But then the game would be banned from every muslim governed country as opposed to only one... Not the smartest move I would say :v
 
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In a court of law, repeated and personal statements and suggestions of violence against someone is still a crime even if no actions come of it. Harassment and slander are still serious crimes. Freedom of speech does not mean being able to say whatever you want without being held accountable. Expressing hatred and bigotry in speech and gestures, more often than not, leads to those kinds of actions. It is not a matter of mere 'offense'. It is a matter of making statements or holding personal beliefs which are morally objectionable and damaging to society as a whole. You may cite freedom speech for allowing you to drive through a city shouting racial slurs out your car window, but that doesn't make you immune to real charges for disturbing the peace and inciting violence.
I love the back-pedalling. So now it's not about causing offence, it's just about harassment and inciting violence. It's good that that's not what we were actually talking about. Nice try at deflection though. Again, who determines what qualifies as "hatred", "bigotry", " morally objectionable", and "damaging to society"? You?

This is not a matter of informed. organized, dissenting speech. There is a major difference between civil discourse and a white power rally. There is a major difference between providing an honest telling of abuse, and a telling that sensationalizes the abuser. There is a difference between someone who maintains a respectful argument, and someone who immediately lapses into verbal diarrhea. Not all speech deserves to be spoken or heard, despite the internet giving every idiot their own megaphone and a sense of entitlement.
Of course, the person who determines what is "civil discourse", "abuse", "a respectful argument", and "verbal diarrhoea", as well as what deserves to be spoken or heard, is none other than you, I imagine? I suppose it's convenient that words and ideas you don't like are what don't deserve to be expressed. You do realise that literally every point you are trying to make could be equally applied to almost every action of speech, any point of view, or any argument, because every metric you're using is almost entirely subjective.
 
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If that DLC never comes out, I hope a modder hacks him in.

Yeah, you know what this game really needs? Power ups DBZ style...

Imagine Mohammad losing the fight only to have an epic mini-cutscene transform into a more powerful being using the power of allah?.

Or Jesus being backcornered and using the holy spirit to crus his enemy on one of those cut close battles?

Man the potential sounds awesome, but the game looks like it could use a little more budget to get to those epic levels :lol:
 
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I disagree with you here to a certain extent. From my experience, people only tend to get "up in arms" about something when the name of a religion is name dropped directly OR if there are enough signs pointing towards a specific religion. Now extremism aside you said "it is pretty obvious what religion it is" which i am guessing means you likely now more about the Jewish faith than i do and thus were able to pick up on the "obvious signs" whereas i did not. Which if so is fair enough since i have only played SMT4/final/3/Soul-hackers and strange journey(i hear the older games like 1+2 had more references to religions). I am interested to see how far the series will go in regards to branching out into different lore's and religions.
I grew up in a family full of people of different faiths and religions, so I took some time to try and learn more about some of the main religions. Which coming from games like 1+2, the signs of God being the Hebrew one are definitely a lot more noticeable there than in the more recent games.
And why would I not be able to create a game like that? Did Islam become the official religion of the world while I was sleeping or something? To me games like this are just like smash bros or something, because all the characters are in the same plane of existence.
It's just that Islam has their fancy habit of trying to kill anyone who presents Allah and his prophet in any true visuals, which usually scares people off from doing such a thing. As someone who isn't religious in the least, I'd personally love to see this game blossom and do well in spite of the dissenters.
 

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Released on Steam Early Access this week, Fight of Gods is a fighting game that features deities like Moses, Jesus, Zeus, Buddha and even Anubis!



If you thought it couldn't get even more intense, then you were wrong! The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission have called for a ban on the game and asked for it to be disabled within 24 hours or face further actions. And then Steam was entirely banned.

In a press release, PQube, the game's publisher, noted that "we never received any communications from Malaysian officials here at PQube, however reports seem to indicate that Malaysia has now blocked access to all of Steam in order to prevent access to Fight of Gods."

Talking to The Star about their actions, the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission had the following to say: "Malaysians respect all cultural and religious sensitivities, and the sale and distribution of the religiously insensitive and blasphemous games must be stopped immediately."

Below is a short statement on the matter from Digital Crafter and PQube:



Kotaku reached out to Valve and they replied with the following statement:



So what do you think of this ban? Somewhat reminiscent of the Russian Pokémon GO player who was recently jailed for playing the game in a church, no?

UPDATE:

It seems like Steam has been unblocked in Malaysia while Fight of Gods has been removed from the digital game distribution platform in the country.

:arrow: SOURCE: GBAtemp Inbox

Muslim Countries take it WAY too far! Being anywhere else is the only way to live a good life :)

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It's just that Islam has their fancy habit of trying to kill anyone who presents Allah and his prophet in any true visuals, which usually scares people off from doing such a thing. As someone who isn't religious in the least, I'd personally love to see this game blossom and do well in spite of the dissenters.
Hey, okay, I'm not gonna go all Hulk on you but Allah forbids the use of the death penalty except if the offender has killed someone, then we can kill him! The killing of Charlie Hebdo was completely wrong.

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I just have to say this:


The GBATemp community is so frickin racist!

That's better.

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Man, if I were one of the developers of this game I would do something really stupid right now cause I like to be a Troll sometimes.

I would add Allah and Mohammad, they would both be short fat and ugly. They would fight with body odor and gas.

I guess its a really good thing I'm not a developer.
Seriously dude, you are just a terrible person. I mean that. :(
 
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Hey, okay, I'm not gonna go all Hulk on you but Allah forbids the use of the death penalty except if the offender has killed someone, then we can kill him! The killing of Charlie Hebdo was completely wrong
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo!"
According to their holy book, Allah encourages violence and bigotry against non followers.
 
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Of course, the person who determines what is "civil discourse", "abuse", "a respectful argument", and "verbal diarrhoea", as well as what deserves to be spoken or heard, is none other than you,
Not me. Society. You know, that thing that exists outside your room, that is made up of a multitude of other people than yourself who, despite different backgrounds and beliefs, can still come to some kind of general consensus as to what sorts of things they want to happen around them. I think you may have been on the internet too long. Individual opinions don't matter no matter how much of a special snowflake you claim to be. Collective opinions shared by people outside a singular group however do matter since more voices are harder to ignore and usually leads to people who are in control of money, legislation, or leadership to take notice.

Hostility, negativity, intentionally trying to harass and offend others... Those may be things you like... But within a society, no matter how large, all it does is cause conflict and drain resources from more important things while limiting the prosperity of that society.
 
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Not me. Society. [...]that is made up of a multitude of other people than yourself who, despite different backgrounds and beliefs, can still come to some kind of general consensus as to what sorts of things they want to happen around them.
So any views, thoughts, opinions, or acts of speech or expression that in any way go against the norm should be actively attacked, silenced, and discouraged? Just because people are upset or offended by (or otherwise don't like) something, it means it shouldn't be allowed?

You know, that thing that exists outside your room
I think you may have been on the internet too long.
Deflection and baseless personal attacks. Nice. Try actually addressing my points next time.

Collective opinions shared by people outside a singular group however...
"Collective opinions" don't exist. In case you haven't noticed, "collectives" are actually made up of individual human beings.

Individual opinions don't matter.
The fact that any person can honestly say such a thing and mean it is downright terrifying.

I don't know where you live, but I suggest moving to North Korea, Belarus, or Turkmenistan. They seem like they'd be more your speed.
 
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"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo!"
According to their holy book, Allah encourages violence and bigotry against non followers.
Can you tell me where exactly those verses are in the Quran?

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Do you even know what desist means?!

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Don't look it up
 

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Some curious responses here, especially given those of the Russia vs pokemon go in a church thread that was bumped where rather different things were at play.

Not what really needs to be said. I will go with *pat-pat* Malaysia, hopefully you'll get it one day.

Lawers, judges, acts of congress... ultimately. I'm sorry... Maybe you are a fan of child porn and don't understand what is fundamentally wrong with depicting any situation where an adult can force or coerce a child into sexual performances, with the intention of normalizing that behavior.

Leaving aside the broad nature of that statement (depicting a situation could well include an entirely staged film production or something, and normalising a situation is almost meaningless here) the supreme court has ruled that CG is OK and actually the film production thing where no harm done of the aside is also within the remit
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/n...ban-on-virtual-child-pornography.html?mcubz=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/20/washington/19cnd-scotus.html?mcubz=0

Now there are other places on earth, ones which people are generally happy to live in and generally considered quite free, where that is not the case which can make for an interesting comparison in law but I will skip that for now.
 
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Uh, why people are doing religion battles here?
What the fuck.

Hm... There are way worse games than Fight of Gods which aren't banned in Malaysia. They seem to block almost everything that has God or Jesus in name. Just my point of view.
 
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But are there any real world depictions of God for every religion? exactly i dont think so.

There's something that can be said about a person who asks a question and answers it on their own. Remove your head from your ass please. Your attitude is a big indicator you clearly don't have the maturity to have a discussion but i'll humor you, kiddo.

Nor was it specifically stated that the God in that game was the one from a certain religion.

So because Atlus did specify WHICH god it was, no one cared. Even i bested SMT IV Final and felt great beating God because it was one they literally made up.

Regardless of my facts you have your opinion and i have mine. That is the beauty of the internet.

Oh and regarding Satan. i dont think anyone would really care if he was put into any game.

I don't know how anyone can be any more specific about the god of Megami Tensei.

Shin Megami Tensei IV Final is about killing God, Yahweh, Jehovah, The Lord, and if you're feeling outlandish, El. We're not beating around the bush here. His name is censored in the game because of the ramifications involved with having voice actors speak his name. It's the God of Judaism and Christianity.

By Hebrew tradition, it is not to be pronounced aloud, and is typically substituted with "Adonai" ("my Lord") in prayers. In speech, Hashem ("the name") is used in its place.
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/YHVH

Ever since the renaissance, god is popularly depicted in art. Here, he is a floating golden head who's full form is revealed upon entering his chamber. His image isn't the primary concern. Christianity has never been anal about how their figures are depicted like other religions.

It's complete bullshit that you think Satan being a character isn't a concern for people since Pokemon to this day is associated with satanic themes (somehow) by american Christians.

I think in the first one for SNES you do actually fight Yahweh
It's the same one, yeah.

Shin Megami Tensei IV Final ends in a similar manner.
 
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Muslim Countries take it WAY too far! Being anywhere else is the only way to live a good life :)

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Hey, okay, I'm not gonna go all Hulk on you but Allah forbids the use of the death penalty except if the offender has killed someone, then we can kill him! The killing of Charlie Hebdo was completely wrong.

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I just have to say this:


The GBATemp community is so frickin racist!

That's better.

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Seriously dude, you are just a terrible person. I mean that. :(


I'm confused, I'm a terrible person because I said it would be a " stupid thing to do " and you think it would be awesome?
or because I said " its a good thing I'm not a developer " and you think I should be?

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But then the game would be banned from every muslim governed country as opposed to only one... Not the smartest move I would say :v

However, how many people in those muslim countries actually have computers and access to the internet? So you would risk looking a few sales, but gain many more in countries full of infidels.
 
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If that DLC never comes out, I hope a modder hacks him in.
Why tho

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In a court of law, repeated and personal statements and suggestions of violence against someone is still a crime even if no actions come of it. Harassment and slander are still serious crimes. Freedom of speech does not mean being able to say whatever you want without being held accountable. Expressing hatred and bigotry in speech and gestures, more often than not, leads to those kinds of actions. It is not a matter of mere 'offense'. It is a matter of making statements or holding personal beliefs which are morally objectionable and damaging to society as a whole. You may cite freedom speech for allowing you to drive through a city shouting racial slurs out your car window, but that doesn't make you immune to real charges for disturbing the peace and inciting violence.

This is not a matter of informed. organized, dissenting speech. There is a major difference between civil discourse and a white power rally. There is a major difference between providing an honest telling of abuse, and a telling that sensationalizes the abuser. There is a difference between someone who maintains a respectful argument, and someone who immediately lapses into verbal diarrhea. Not all speech deserves to be spoken or heard, despite the internet giving every idiot their own megaphone and a sense of entitlement.
To add to to this, that's part of the legal definition of "battery." As in, you know, "assault and battery," which is a thing that you can actually be tried for

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Battery

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Too bad they didn't have the balls to include Mohammed. He is "officially" no God, but neither is Moses.
Yeah that's one thing that didn't quite sit right with me, having Moses labelled as a god in this lineup
 

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