[Tutorial] how to check your firmware version on ds/ds lite

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  1. Spongebobplace
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    What will you need
    1.a DS/DS lite
    2.a DS/GBA game

    Instructions
    Step 1: put in gba or ds card into ds
    Step 2: turn on ds (hold down start while powering on if you have auto mode)
    Step 3: load up pictochat and go into any chat room
    Step 4: take gba or ds card out while in pictochat
    Step 5: done

    Versions
    v1: Pictochat freezes
    v2: two greyish blue screens
    v3: two dark green screens
    v4: two golden yellow screens
    v5: two magenta screens
    v6: two dark blue screens
    v7: DS system does not crash


    credit to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_homebrew
     
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  2. Alex4U

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    Cool! My DS Lite Zelda have v5 (most DS Lites have this fimware)
    By the way, is there any differences between any fimware versions? Like more fps,, or something like that?

    Also, you need to extract DS(i) Game when you're in PictoChat, i extracted my GBA game and doesn't worked.
    never mind, worked with GBA game.
     
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    Two questions.
    1. How did you figure this out? got some data or source information to confirm this finding?
    2. How does this not just... damage the system in question, or the game tused to test? It wasn't until the DSi that it was even able to be possible to unplug the DS cart without turning off the system.
     
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    1.-https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=15112.0
    2.- Game & console doesn't damage, because the console doesn't have access in GBA/DS game while you're in PictoChat.
    edit: any game (except R4/ GBA Flashcard) works, i tested with Pokémon White Version (JP) and Sonic Advace 3 (usa) and worked too.
     
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    I wasn't aware the DS had different firmware versions.

    Why does it?
     
  6. Alex4U

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    it's like Nintendo 3DS fimwares.
    im currently researching, but i can't find any differences beetween fimwares...
    Maybe is more fastest, supports more ds games, or something like that? i don't know... i CAN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION!!!!!1
     
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    IIRC, v1/v2 was able to do a passme over wifi, and v3 and later fixed that bug. What had happened, is that the earlier versions had in fact done the signature check on the transmitted binary, but went ahead and used the header of the download play offer packet rather than the header of the actual transmitted download play binary to jump to entry point.

    Also, v5 IIRC introduced screen brightness adjustments, when it sees the appropriate power management chip on the system.

    That is all I know in regards of that.


    (Passme was the means of running homebrew using a GBA based compact flash reader cartridge.
     
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    Ok, now I know I have a v5 Black DS Lite, thank you!
     
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    personally i have a blue ds phat with v4
     
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    All original DSes which came with V5 out of the factory (OP's test is unreliable if you ever installed a cfw) have the DS Lite regulator, and can indeed be upgraded to ajustable brightness with FlashMe!

    https://filetrip.net/dl?dXSdaMSv9x
     
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    That nice, people can finally put their DS firmware into their sign.
     
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    Thanks I have a v5 white DS Lite!
     
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    thanks now the list is complete...
     
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    Okay, and what exactly is the significance of this? And what's required to use FlashMe, and what can FlashMe to?

    I have a v5 (two magenta screens) DS Lite, cobalt blue and black.
     
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    Flashme protects against bricks and lets you boot a GBA card in NDS mode without a Passcard.

    Edit: this info has been known for years and is nothing new.
     
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    Are there any perks to booting GBA cards in DS mode?
     
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    You can run NDS code from the GBA card.
    And backup NDS games to the GBA card.

    Edit: and you can recover a bricked DS (if FlashMe is installed) with a GBA card.
     
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    To install it, just a flashcard and a metal tool (especially on a Lite, it may be easier to remove the back cover and firmly tape the battery in place, to avoid hitting the VRs)

    Features of Flashme:
    On a V5+-from-the-factory original DS, unlock adjustable brightness
    On original DS and early Lites, brick protection (later Lites should have it in hardware) (to actually recover from the brick you'll need a flashcard running flashme.nds as early as possible, for example on an original R4 you convert it to _ds_menu.dat)
    Free Passme if you have a slot-2 flashcard
    Skipping the boot animation, depending on the version you choose (power button to rom selection in less than 3 seconds on my original R4 with YSmenu)
    Unsigned applications via download play (run homebrew with WifiMe if you reeeeally are bored + your friend with a DSOne isn't forced to turn off cheats when he wants to stream a game to your console) ;)