Turning Wi-Fi off fixes lagging in Zelda BoTW and other Switch games

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  1. FAST6191

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    The system is two weeks old, the first rumours started in what 2014? http://wccftech.com/rumor-nintendo-working-nextgen-console-soc-selected/ is a January 2104 article on the matter, so late 2013 maybe. 2012 if you want to go really obscure and washy https://mynintendonews.com/2012/06/...king-on-3ds-successor-and-not-a-3ds-revision/

    We could consider the development period and when things might have happened but I am not sure what good that would do, it is certainly not like they would have told everybody new home console using fancy intel+direct X 12 a like graphics gear and switched to the Nvidia ARM stuff late last year. Modern development tends not to be all done to a piece of given hardware either and there is some scope to recompile and optimise if the ground shifts a little bit under you, as well as use higher level languages that are less troubled by all this (how many android devs have all different phones to test on as much as saying meh it is all java anyway).

    People also like to tell me Nintendo has massive reserves of cash. I will take that as read for this.

    Nintendo have also screwed up for the last however many years (the wii did not do so well for the last years of its life and that was some time ago), and even the 3ds was hardly a shining beacon of light. Game dev studio costs http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/31/5949433/the-cost-of-a-game-studio
    Get a bunch of those that is already set up and I am sure you could have a bunch delighted to work with and be funded by the mighty Nintendo. Compared to even a rudimentary advertising campaign...

    To that end there was plenty of scope for Nintendo to have a decent launch lineup and launch window. Instead we have this.
     


  2. chartube12

    chartube12 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    The Nintendo Switch's launch is worse then the Nintendo DS's was? That's difficult to imagine but unfortunately it is true.
     
  3. Memoir

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    How long the console had been in development SHOULD correlate to what we get launch day, software wise... It doesn't always. Not to mention? With the third party drop off with the WiiU? It's no wonder we didn't see a nice lineup. Not gonna sit here and throw a fit about it, though. Just gonna do what I should as a consumer. Vote with my wallet.

    I want the switch to succeed. In order for it to do so? We need to show Nintendo and the devs that this system is worth developing for. Can't do that when we're too busy bitching about miniscule issues.

    Also, yes, 2 weeks old. On the market.. I remember only a handful of games for the likes of the 360.. And they weren't all worth talking about.
     
  4. Pluupy

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    I was hoping you see the error in your approach but you continue. Oh well. Nothing to see there, folks. That user clearly has nothing important to say and doesn't have the self-respect to use proper grammar.
     
  5. chartube12

    chartube12 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    No one thought the Switch was a new wii u controller. You have to be crazy to think a new wii u controller would cost 300 bucks. Retro what kind of drugs are you smoking?
     
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    Whatever they are, I want some..
     
  7. FAST6191

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    There is more that can be done, bitching about it on the internet is one of those things.

    It is no wonder one did not naturally happen (Nintendo are hardly an attractive party to work with compared to some options), but you can force things if you want to spend up. Likewise more time in development could see more things, the point I was heading towards though was that there was ample time (1 year is short for a full massive game from the ground up but one year for the sorts of things we see on phones and ports of existing games, all very welcome here, is a different matter).

    So the 360 lineup was bad? So what. That was a different system (a pure home console) many years ago in a fast moving industry (late 2005 that was, android did not hit until what 2008 and the iphone 3g was also that year), and Nintendo would have to have known what they were getting in for.

    Maybe Nintendo got it right this time (miss what is it 4 times now if I include the DSi?) and few games will make for a super awesome library the envy of many. Pending that I am going to point and laugh at the poor boy with no games.
     
  8. s157

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    Those FPS dips happened to me, and numerous of my friends who own a switch. Wasn't gamebreaking and didn't detract too much from the overall experience, but it was definitely there. Judging from the responses of an online community I'm part of that owns the switch, I'd say maybe 20% of switch owners worldwide suffer from framerate issues. However, most are minor. The fixes on the 1st page worked for most of them, but not all. Perhaps it could be considered a defect as the wifi/airplane mode fix doesn't work for all switches, nor do all switch owners suffer from FPS dips.

    Chill out on the Switch bashing/defending. It's irrelevant to this topic's intended audience, and can only sour their mood if they read things like this. These people already own a switch, and if they are here to learn how to mitigate at least SOME of the lag, then chances are they aren't planning on returning it any time soon. Having them doubt their purchase isn't much of a help in a thread that's designed to help people, neither is trying to convince them to ignore the faults in the console too. Make a thread that says "why you should keep your switch or return it" or a thread just bashing nintendo if you wish, but enough desecration of a thread of goodwill.
     
  9. FAST6191

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    If I am not causing doubts, second thoughts and deeper considerations then I am clearly not doing my job. It may not do anything here, but there is next time. Equally any fixes will hopefully be in or linked in the first post.

    Equally if not all switches suffer then that might speak to a measure of quality control failure, or at least a wide range of accepted performances and that could be good to know.

    What is next? Security assuming people are fundamentally good and going from there?
     
  10. s157

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    Causing doubts and making people think twice is perfectly fine, but what good does it do in what is basically a troubleshooting thread? I agree with most here on the switch's build quality but it doesn't need to be in this thread.

    "Hey supposedly disabling Wi-Fi fixes some FPS issues!"
    "Has anyone tested it"
    "Nintendont has screwed up again"
    "Nintendo haters! Where is your evidence?!"
    "Allow me to explain in extreme detail why it is a faulty system"

    And so forth.

    As you can see in the 1st page, the original audience is either "neat, works great!" or "I never had FPS issues" or "it didn't do anything". Soon it became a console criticism. Power to the people who wish to spread awareness of its fault, but new readers likely came here just to find out how to fix their FPS issues and got a full heaping of a console bash/defense.

    TL;DR I agree with the people pointing out the flaws, Foxi and Fast included, but this troubleshooting thread is not the place for it
     
  11. FAST6191

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    Real reason, in interpretive film quote form
    http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0045776/quotes
    Swan: Why'd you do it? Why'd you waste Cyrus rag on the switch?
    Luther: No reason. I just... like doing things like that!

    Tissue thin justification.
    Myself and those like me tend not to go for the product reviews. If you want to know the real failures of a device you go for the troubleshooting sections.
     
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    Well, I can understand that at least. Specially designated threads would be flooded with bias and possibly incorrect information, and the original audience here would be more open minded about things, but then you draw in the worst of both sides who shouldn't be in here as:

    A- their switch is perfectly fine, but they decide to bring other consoles into it because everyone loves comparisons
    B- they don't own a switch but feel the urge to rag on Nintendo. Mind you their arguments are justified usually but a post or two in from them and this thread has went to hell.

    It is quite the conundrum indeed.
     
  13. mechagouki

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    Lol, I have every console since SNES (except PS3, Wii U and PS4 but including Vita), and 3 TVs dedicated to gaming, and I paid for them all with money I earned. I'm 45 years old, your assumptions underline your bias.

    No interesting XBOX games? Well I guess Halo is kinda dull, and almost nobody likes Gears of War, Forza. Just because you don't find a game interesting it doesn't mean that your opinion is widely shared, try and think outside your own preferences once in a while, failure to do so promotes personal ignorance.

    I don't remember criticising the Switch's launch library, so I don't know why you're defending that. I've stated that I don't want Nintendo to fail, but that what I've read since launch leads me to believe they've released a buggy product, at a high price point, and people are going to vote with their wallets. "Mommys" who do buy their childrens's video games are going to read the negative reports in the mainstream media and buy a console that people aren't currently complaining about. Maybe they'll buy PS4, maybe they'll buy XBOX, I don't care, because I'm not in the least partisan about video game hardware manufacturers, because that would be fucking stupid.
     
  14. Xzi

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    People don't reflect fully on launch lineups until later, and most are frankly terrible. PS4 was mostly multiplats and a couple sequels to Sony's less-loved IPs, absolutely nothing worth buying the system for by any means. It still sold well at launch despite having dick for good exclusives, so it's not surprising when Switch sells well at launch with just one really good one.
     
  15. FAST6191

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    The PS4bone probably could still get by on promise though.
    Nintendo has had something between 3 and 5 flubbed consoles, plus the rather weakened 3ds, and is immediately going up against Android and IOS. While such things are not as strong as they could be (something that still baffles me) they do represent something formidable and from where I sit Nintendo's promises don't hold much water.
     
  16. Retroboy

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    nothing worth buying yet it sold like shit off a stick.

    launch titles yes can be weak, but fuck me the switch is full of nasty mobile "like" apps and has little other than mario and mario kart coming soon.

    and whats your facts again fanboy on the switch selling well at launch?

    its figures are less than the XBX1/PS4......

    its a hybrid console combining home and portable consoles, so combining wii u and 3ds sales its still fucking low.

    nintendo are telling you fucktards a pack of lies, yes its sold better than the wii u..... WUP WUP THE WII U WAS A FAUCKING FAILURE.... DEAD ON ARRIVAL CONSOLE, YOU SERIOUSLY WANT TO BRAG ABOUT THAT.

    lets be realistic here fucktards, your sales are lower than your competition during the same period..... you have a well proven record of only providing games your devoted fans love, nothing else for the remaining gaming market, other than ports of old titles because your last system was a cheap ass system and would never be able to run it...... hence skipping you.

    here is a snippet for uk
    In the UK at least, Nintendo is well below the 150,000 units Microsoft sold during the Xbox One opening weekend and the 250,000 sold by Sony for the PS4.

    so thats selling well, yet the above your claim ps4 had fuck all.......
     
  17. Retroboy

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    nintendo should go back to when they actually cared about competing.

    if you look back, it was always Nintendo was the better system, when it was nintendo v sega, most would agree nintendo was the better system.

    then came the PS1 and sorry but nintendo got ignorant and refused to accept improve its technology.

    the PS1 blew the gaming industry away, it pushed what games could be into a whole new level, nintendo stuck with expensive carts in which was why the PS1 had so many excellent titles that skipped the N64

    but the N64 was the better system when it came to graphics, its downfall was that it lacked the games and the PS1 pissed all over it.

    then came the PS2 which nintendo finally updated to disc based games (but stupidly to mini dvd offering less storage), again another system that had better hardware than the PS2, but it failed to provide the great third party support that the PS2 was getting.

    so tho the PS2 was inferior, it was still capable of doing a very good job at running games almost identical, and had far more support when it came to games.

    the cube was the start of my dislike for nintendo, was littered with far too many mario games, lacked anything new, lack the great titles that MS/SONY was getting.

    after the cube causing a problem for nintendo, thats when they started to pull back and find ways to launch cheap systems, then came the wii, basically a re branded cube with a different controller, marketed very well and was able to pull in people who dont normally play games.

    but the games it did get was all the same, repetitive, the console failed to control how nintendo claimed, and due to lacking hardware it quickly got ignored by third party devs who released massive AAA titles that came to the 360/PS3.

    nintendo thought they had a gold mine with the wii, not only was it cheap to manufacture it was selling like wild fire - thus raking in massive profits.....this is when nintendo started getting greedy.

    they thought they would try the same again, what was popular at the moment.... mobile/table gaming, so nintendo then release another cheap system, subpar to the last gen (ps3/360) and had hoped its tablet clonetroller would bring in a repeat sales reaction that the wii had.

    but it failed, reason it failed was because its hardware was old, devs who were to support it was limited to what they could do and all they could do would be release last gen ports, they wouldnt spend millions making its next AAA title for the PS4/XBX1 then spend more to have a team make its new title solely for the wii u, it wouldnt work and wouldnt be worth the money.

    so devs all abandoned it, and it lacked again the great games that MS/SONY were getting (minus the old PS3/360 ports).

    No games, no sales, console flopped before it could say BOOOO!, at no point did anyone not know the wii u was a new console, this is just a BS lie from nintendo, its not like theyd admit this to the press and its investors are they.

    so what do nintendo do....... again ignorance, cant take risks with compeating after the damage the cube did, so they look again at trying to steal a slice of the mobile/tablet market and come across devices like this:
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    and think hey, what if we did this for our next console and we can save money by not having to make a home console and a portable console.... we can merge them into one.

    but then continue to release old hardware hoping this copied idea will be its WOW factor like the wii and it prints money...... greed.

    nintendo didng give a shit about giving it the hardware so it can actually compete with the PS4/XBX1, its their 2nd console during the PS4/XBX1s life and its still inferior, so again its only going to get old titles ported and wont see a dev spend millions on its next AAA title then spend more to release a dumbed down version for nintendo..... as we can already see titles coming to the PS4/XBX1 are skipping the switch.

    then we have its cheap nasty design and all its faults, not good for new buyers, so unless it gets better games and starts improving its design/hardware to fix its faults...... this WILL BE ANOTHER FAILED CONSOLE FOR NINTENDO!!!

    also note, nintendo will again (if they are still in the market) have to be first to release its new system because like fuck will this compete against the next sony/ms console.

    so be expecting a short life out of this sack of shit clonesole!!!!
     
  18. da1e85

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    Have you got a switch or you just like bad mouthing nintendo
     
  19. John256145

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    I'm glad they're acknowledging the problem instead of ignoring it.
     
  20. Retroboy

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    ohhh because all these issues arent happening.

    fyi and yes i do, came the other day and i am noticing also lag issues.

    so your point is?

    ohh wait, because you think i dont own one, these faults are not real?