This feels disgusting: Investor hope that Switch fail so Nintendo would put all their effort for Mob

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  1. Yil

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    But mobile market is oversaturated already. They should see why Nintendo have better chamce in consoles.
     


  2. Jacklack3

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    Investors: The switch won't be popular!

    *Nintendo's Switch trailer get's like a million views a minute*
     
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    I love how they say they should focus on mobile gaming. Have they seen the 3DS? I have very high hopes for the Switch. It looks very promising. Who wouldn't want to play Skyrim on the go? x3
     
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    Shouldnt it be blind and happy? Man, with money everything is upside down huh? :P
     
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    I think Mario Run is a pretty good POC.
    It shows that Nintendo can make a good mobile game.

    The problem is there is less money in it. They are charging $10 for Mario run while charging more for 3ds and it's games.
    They would have to find a way to get serious micro transactions in a mobile game for it to be viable.
     
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    Who care what a bunch of biased investors say? Screw them.
     
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    They have a say in the direction the business takes because they can pull funds. With the president of Nintendo being more of a business man, you have to wonder if he will pay more attention to his investors' opinions.

    Unfortunately they could have more sway than we would maybe like.
     
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    Or people can wait it out and not hope for a console's demise and make judgments when it's released instead? Hoping for failure is pretty stupid IMO.
     
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    Thats nice but everyone has has a smartphone but not everyone got console/pc. In the smartphone market is way more money since everyone is playing games on it even moms and grandads. And that is the only point thats matters to investors. It will become way bigger then the console/pc market and you will see all lot of big smartphone games in the future (like hitman go). However the market has a really big Problem: Games only work if they are free. If you look at the ratings of super mario run you see a lot of people giving bad reviews because the game is to expensive. If every world would cost 1€ then mario would make way more money because people don't think about long about 1€. The smartphone market is the big next gaming platform and the devs must produce games for it because you can make the most money on it. But as long nobody wants to pay 10€ for a smartphone game you will get shitty free to play games with where you can buy stuff for real money. That will make the game probaly pay to win and steal all the fun. If we want new good portable games we must pay for it and stop thinking that a smartphone game is not worth that much, It can theoretical run games like halflife and you have no problem paying 10€ for it on a pc or console but if you are on a smarthpone then its to much even if its the same game as on any other platform? If we can't change that system then we are in 2019 stuck with no handheld and only shitty smartphone games...
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    Legit question here: what is wrong with mobile as a support? The lack of physical buttons is the only drawback I can think of and even that can be mitigated (like the xperia play did back in the day).
     
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    There is definitely nothing wrong with adding mobile devices to Nintendo's list of platforms. Really, they have already done so. The first few smartphone games they released were probably Nintendo's way of testing the market. I think it would be a mistake for Nintendo to devote themselves solely to the mobile platforms, but it would be nice to see more Nintendo games on them.

    With that said, I don't think Nintendo would really make games that require a controller for your phone or tablet. That's just not really their style, from what I've seen. They usually stick pretty close to what controls the platform comes with out of the box. I think their more serious games still need to be on devoted systems, really. Just a thought.
     
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    If you can provide the formula for converting YouTube views to tangible sales on the shop floor, let me know :)

    22,847,672 views as I write this. Divided by about 75 days = about 331,302 views per day, average. And that's with all the media coverage in the world helping out (ie. so many news sites covering it). After the initial huge spike in views, the daily statistics look more like a flat line rather than a steeper angle. Should that be worrying? You decide. Compare it with other videos you like and tell me if the line is steeper with those than the Nintendo Switch video. Even then that might not mean much at all; this is all guesswork.

    Nintendo's biggest shareholders are banking/finance/parasite interests (like most companies, I'd imagine). Shareholders only care about one thing: profit. Very few care about sustainability, long-term views or anything but making their cut frm the hard work of those that sweat.
     
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    You could fire your investors? They're the ones who put money to your organizations right? What would happen if you do that.

    Sorry for the questions I'm a noob at financial stuffs.

    Anyways, as per one of the guys here, investors only care about money $$$ and probably they are old white folks who can only play candy crush and they know high profit games depend on that addiction factor and paywall and pay-to-complete the building or pay to get power-ups and shit..

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    but what if the mobile game sales flop compared to their console/handheld games, what would the president do? Will they give investors a backhand slap for giving shitty opinions?
     
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    Generally speaking you can not fire all types of investors, especially not if you are a publicly traded company like Nintendo and it is the publicly issued shares that are up for discussion. I can't be bothered to look up Nintendo's share structure at this point (here is a list of types in the UK, it is broadly similar in most places http://www.informdirect.co.uk/shares/types-of-share-a-company-can-have/ ) to go more into depth for this specifically.

    In any case there are two broad scenarios to consider

    1) Your shares carry voting rights. In shareholder meetings you can call for votes of no confidence in the CEO (or even the whole board) and they get ousted, and it gets far more complex as shareholder agreements come into play. Shareholders may also be entitled to vote on the direction the company takes.

    2) Your shares carry no voting rights but other things can happen. If the company can be said to have been negligent in its duties (in many countries that means getting as much money as possible unless it goes against their founding principles) then shareholders might have the option to sue for some money.
    If your shareholders say we want mobile, Nintendo says no then the shareholders can go to the press. The press says they are not listening to shareholders (voting rights or not matters little at this point), the people buying and selling stocks hear this and as they are the ones buying and selling stocks they react negatively to such news of a company not paying attention to them and start selling off. When things get sold off the price drops and a falling share price is bad news for a whole bunch of reasons.

    The above is massively simplified and there are a variety of other things, however when people talk of shareholders becoming upset they usually mean one of those two, or indeed both at the same time.
     
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    i wasn't serious mate. but i guess if people want facts then they can look right here.
     
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    nintendo could fail 100 or so times over and they would still be ok no other company could do the same they are clearly pressed because they know the switch will be successful
     
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    I think they are doing OK with portables. That is clearly their strength now. Especially with Vita out of the picture. They are a (distant) third with home consoles though. And I guess management knows that the Wii name has more negative connotations at this point than positive, for reasons that should be obvious to them.

    I think if the Switch fails then it will be huge blow to Nintendo. Not enough to ruin the company but enough to seriously downsize it.
     

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