Hacking Question So is 3.0.1 really not exploitable?

[lordelan]

if money isn't an issue over raw power, and you just want a powerful portable device for emulation, may i suggest a laptop? you can plug in all kinds of controllers, and some can be extremely powerful, potentially being able to emulate newer games.

An Android tablet would fit as well but both cannot play the Switch library just in case.

 

[V-Temp]

Eventually it will be, everything has holes in its security somewhere.

But, at the same time, we're going to have a fully open <3.0.1 Switch in the not too distant future once we start getting through the bootrom and circumvent TrustZone where we can do whatever we want, so the interest to then also start fighting Nintendo/risking entry points for higher firmwares becomes a less interesting task for most.

There is no timetable on >3.0.1.

 

[DarthDub]

There was a tweet somewhere about a possible exploit, so stay on your toes!

 

[subcon959]

if money isn't an issue over raw power, and you just want a powerful portable device for emulation, may i suggest a laptop? you can plug in all kinds of controllers, and some can be extremely powerful, potentially being able to emulate newer games.

I'm not really interested in the raw power per se, I just figured the excitement over a new powerful system might bring more dev interest and therefore more variety in emulation.

To be honest, I only really do emulation for nostalgia. Due to my age, that was mostly the 80's and early 90's so the extra power isn't really needed. I can see how for someone younger that might be from later more demanding systems like Dreamcast, Playstation etc, so the Switch might seem better suited.

 

[fatsquirrel]

There was a tweet somewhere about a possible exploit, so stay on your toes!

Can you sauce me?

 

[DarthDub]

Can you sauce me?

I saw it somewhere in the forums. I don't know where though.

 

[Deleted User]

Damn son whats with all the angst? Some of us are actually adults and can afford to buy any console without having to "pick a team" that we get all defensive about if anyone points out a flaw.

You can huff and puff all you want it won't change the fact that the Switch has a crappy Dpad... or that it's basically just a Tegra X1 Tablet. Luckily, it should be fairly straightforward for Nintendo to do a refresh with the X2 in a couple years so that will be the one to get excited over.

And how is that a flaw if the devs ensure it's not intrusive? Most games avoid using the dpad because the developers know the issues with the dpad on the switch. And lets be honest. How many games use a dapad for main controls, in 2017, and I mean running jumping, your movement options?


So yes, it is a flaw, a flaw that was fixed with a optional controller. Coupling that with the fact that that very few games use the dpad to a extreme extent, if not none. Shouldn't really be a big deal breaker shouldn't it? And also, it's not a stock tergra, it's close to stock but people have found out that there is SOME modifications to the chip.

And again I'm asking, why are you here. If your going to hate in a post that doesn't have anything to do with switch flaws. Isn't that blatantly bashing? And guess what, I own quite a few consoles. A playstation 2, a xbox 360, xbox one. a wii that is now busted. a wiiu, switch, a single handheld, a 3ds. Here is the reason I said sonyfanboy. Because it's the sonyfanboys that start the issues. I'm I going to say the switch is pefect? hell no. But I'm I willing to understand why something is built a certain way? yes. And the reason the dpad, is not a dpad. Was for split joy con play. Using one joy con and a friend using the other. At least Nintendo still allows local play, unlike most other companies. And what I mean by that is, there a few games on the other platforms that support splitscreen or some sort of local multiplayer that doesn't require a second console. And if you have enough money to buy more than one console. You have more then enough money to buy a pro controller, that has a decent dpad.

 

[subcon959]

And how is that a flaw if the devs ensure it's not intrusive? Most games avoid using the dpad because the developers know the issues with the dpad on the switch. And lets be honest. How many games use a dapad for main controls, in 2017, and I mean running jumping, your movement options?


So yes, it is a flaw, a flaw that was fixed with a optional controller. Coupling that with the fact that that very few games use the dpad to a extreme extent, if not none. Shouldn't really be a big deal breaker shouldn't it? And also, it's not a stock tergra, it's close to stock but people have found out that there is SOME modifications to the chip.

And again I'm asking, why are you here. If your going to hate in a post that doesn't have anything to do with switch flaws. Isn't that blatantly bashing? And guess what, I own quite a few consoles. A playstation 2, a xbox 360, xbox one. a wii that is now busted. a wiiu, switch, a single handheld, a 3ds. Here is the reason I said sonyfanboy. Because it's the sonyfanboys that start the issues. I'm I going to say the switch is pefect? hell no. But I'm I willing to understand why something is built a certain way? yes. And the reason the dpad, is not a dpad. Was for split joy con play. Using one joy con and a friend using the other. At least Nintendo still allows local play, unlike most other companies. And what I mean by that is, there a few games on the other platforms that support splitscreen or some sort of local multiplayer that doesn't require a second console. And if you have enough money to buy more than one console. You have more then enough money to buy a pro controller, that has a decent dpad.

OK, I'll try to be as clear as possible here so hopefully you aren't going to respond based on irrelevant assumptions..

My original reply was to someone who said the Switch was perfect for handheld emulation. I simply said it had a poor Dpad for such purposes. It really shouldn't be a contentious issue that a good Dpad is essential for emulating nearly all older systems. That's it. The End. I wasn't trying to molest or hurt the device so your leap to it's defence as a gaming system in general was a total overreaction.

The reason these threads end up off topic like this is because the original question has been answered so many times already and people get bored. There is some sort of narcissism epidemic going around as people seem to think that they are special and if they ask the same question they will get a different answer than everybody else.

 

[Deleted User]

OK, I'll try to be as clear as possible here so hopefully you aren't going to respond based on irrelevant assumptions..

My original reply was to someone who said the Switch was perfect for handheld emulation. I simply said it had a poor Dpad for such purposes. It really shouldn't be a contentious issue that a good Dpad is essential for emulating nearly all older systems. That's it. The End. I wasn't trying to molest or hurt the device so your leap to it's defence as a gaming system in general was a total overreaction.

The reason these threads end up off topic like this is because the original question has been answered so many times already and people get bored. There is some sort of narcissism epidemic going around as people seem to think that they are special and if they ask the same question they will get a different answer than everybody else.

well, I'm pretty sure devs could just support the anlog stick. But i see your point.

 

[TimX24968B]

OK, I'll try to be as clear as possible here so hopefully you aren't going to respond based on irrelevant assumptions..

My original reply was to someone who said the Switch was perfect for handheld emulation. I simply said it had a poor Dpad for such purposes. It really shouldn't be a contentious issue that a good Dpad is essential for emulating nearly all older systems. That's it. The End. I wasn't trying to molest or hurt the device so your leap to it's defence as a gaming system in general was a total overreaction.

The reason these threads end up off topic like this is because the original question has been answered so many times already and people get bored. There is some sort of narcissism epidemic going around as people seem to think that they are special and if they ask the same question they will get a different answer than everybody else.

honestly if handheld emulation is what ur trying to get the most out of, may i suggest those portable consoles that are console specific? they work the best in terms of emulation for their respective console, and they can be bought online. not to mention, having physical copies of games looks good in a collection.

 

[subcon959]

well, I'm pretty sure devs could just support the anlog stick. But i see your point.

It turns out that it's a trivial job to mod in a proper Dpad so my point was moot after all.

honestly if handheld emulation is what ur trying to get the most out of, may i suggest those portable consoles that are console specific? they work the best in terms of emulation for their respective console, and they can be bought online. not to mention, having physical copies of games looks good in a collection.

Again, I'm pretty much set in terms of the kinds of systems I'm into. Between the Vita, PSP, 3DS and I think I even still have a GP2X somewhere, there are a plethora of emulators for almost anything. My Switch will be for first party gaming for the next couple years at least.

 

[Deleted-355425]

All firmwares will be exploitable but the new thing is 3.0.0 and below for the time being. Devs are having fun with this new console and the entry point that’s easily accessible is 3.0.0 and under. Once that’s cracked wide open and public and the 3.0.0 consoles are no longer available then I’m sure Devs will start looking to crack higher firmwares.

 

[Deleted User]

It turns out that it's a trivial job to mod in a proper Dpad so my point was moot after all.

Again, I'm pretty much set in terms of the kinds of systems I'm into. Between the Vita, PSP, 3DS and I think I even still have a GP2X somewhere, there are a plethora of emulators for almost anything. My Switch will be for first party gaming for the next couple years at least.

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[SoslanVanWieren]

Yeah at least we can have hack free gen 8 pokemon i don't except this toe get hacked to the level of the 3ds im also assuming they will console ban you like they did on the 360 if you mod your switch and try to play online. They just don't allow you to back up your saves with your switch which is annoying so unlike the 3ds if your console breaks you will also lose saves for physical games as well.