Hacking [Release] Savegame Manager Plugin for NTR 1.0 & 2.0

[cell9]

Ah, OK, I'll have to try that. But it's really not a concern anyway. I'm just glad to have the save dumped finally. Thanks again. Now if you could just add DSiWare support. I'm not asking you to go back on your no CIA thing, I can use Gateway mode to install the DSiWare. If you could just patch the DS checks so that NTR can run it, I could leave the old 3DS at home. I know you're AP, but the DS is not a current generation system. No imaginary lost sales can occur because of enabling DS code to run (especially since it's not possible to run MSET on the N3DS).



Then how do you plan to troubleshoot issues with games you don't own? When you RE'd SDF and rewrote it as a plugin (considering it probably would have been much easier to just enable CIA, PM me a link, and threaten to kill me if I leak it ), it occurred to me that I might have actually met someone that's as stubborn as me. Now, it's official

I haven't RE'd SDF, I wrote by my own with infos from 3dbrew, and it is kinda easy to do that since you have plugin support.

 

[MelonGx]

Any method to boot this plugin on 6.0-9.2 Old3DS?

 

[Kazuma77]

So long as both 3DSes are 9.0-9.2 yes.



Actually, the KARL crew have managed to re-enable MSET on all 9.2 systems.

Stubborn? Neither of you are stubborn. You're a jerk, and cell9 is principled.

You're aware that if you want me (or anyone else) to believe a wild rumor like that, you need to link some proof, right? Youtube video being the bare minimum requirement. Something like the DS Profile exploit working on the N3DS, though, I'm going to need a link to some files with which I can reproduce this experiment before I can take it at face value. So far it's been all vaporware with the KARL team. Not even so much as a release. I'm supposed to believe they've all of a sudden created a SysNAND mod on hearsay? Link please.

I'm not sure why you think I'm a jerk. I'm as helpful as anyone here. I help people all the time when they ask questions. And I just helped the community obtain a valuable tool. Granted, cell9 coded it. Still, if I hadn't made him aware of this massive void in the way of save conversion tools, it still wouldn't exist. So, I'm a jerk for what exactly? Making a complaint that got results and gave people something useful? You want to deduct points for style or something? It worked, didn't it? The squeaky wheel gets the grease, pal.

Or maybe you think my attitude towards cell9 is not as respectful as it should be. Sorry, but I don't just bow down to someone and call them "master" because they can code. Respect is something you earn. You don't earn any when you don't show anyone else any. And so far, cell9 treats his users about the same as the PC game industry treats their customers. Like convicted felons. I'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility". You'd have to be living in a cave not to. Well, is cell9 entrusting his users with any responsibility? No. That should tell you what else they're not getting. He doesn't trust his users to do the right thing, so he's made all of their decisions for them like they're 6-year-old kids. If you don't trust others, then why should they trust you? Yes, he's a pretty nice guy in general. He did help me with my problem, after all. He's just got some major trust issues, and an extremely negative perspective of humanity. I don't hold that against him though. The anti-civilization in which we live just has that effect on people. But I'm not going to just sit here and take accusations like a board that doesn't hit back, either. You say the "p" word, it's on.

I think you're getting the term "principled" confused with naive. cell9 has swallowed the lie being perpetrated by uncompetitive big business, greedy parasitic politicians, and the socialist media. He believes so-called "piracy" hurts sales (in spite of the existence of research showing, for example, that people who download music buy more of it, not less). If that were the case, then I should not have a lot of retail games sitting around here, being a "filthy pirate" and all right? But I do. In fact, even as badly as Diablo III burned me on the PC, I went out and bought the PS3 version on release day. Why? Because having spent all weekend playing it (yes, I had a copy already), I decided Blizzard had redeemed themselves and created a good game. I invariably end up with more games than any of the "non-pirates" I know. The lost sale is a myth. Does someone looking to buy a game go to Amazon or TPB? Since TPB doesn't even sell retail games, the answer should be obvious. Do you really think someone's going to run out and buy a game just because it's not listed at TPB? No. They are going to move on down the new release list until they do find something to try. cell9 thinks people like me are all a bunch of freeloading thieves. I take offense at that. Files don't even have value (infinite supply, zero demand, it's basic economics). Being a collector, I know that better than most. It's not theft. It's not even copyright infringement. Our copyright laws aren't even being properly interpreted. Never mind their intended purpose is to provide an incentive to create works. All they've done is create artificial monopolies and stifle innovation. They need to go. It's also common sense that no one works for free, game developers included. He insults our intelligence by implying we don't get that. I've probably got more 3DS carts than he does. If anything, the abundance of all these free copies only highlights their non-value and makes me appreciate the genuine article more.

Are you implying I'm not principled? I have principles. Just because they're not the same as yours, that doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm always honest, if not always nice (because I've learned what nice gets you -- taken advantage of). I always tell the truth to the best of my knowledge. I do call people out when they use bad logic or say something that's blatantly false. Such as "piracy hurts sales". No. Fair use is good for sales. I am for free markets. I would deregulate them all, because it would lead to technological advances on a scale the world has never seen (unemployment would be gone, we'd have a shortage of people to fill the demand for the new fields of technology that would be emerging). cell9 is for the status quo. Big business stifling innovation. Showing sympathy to millionaires (like they need it?). If any of this lost sales nonsense were even true, I'm supposed to feel bad because a game developer had to settle for a Cadillac instead of a Lamborghini? Would you have me believe people are hurting that have a much larger annual income than I do? Go on, pull the other one.

 

[Christian Rosado]

sorry, noob question here, but this works without a gateway? right? If so any limitation cuz of recent software updates ?

 

[jaku]

sorry, noob question here, but this works without a gateway? right? If so any limitation cuz of recent software updates ?

Works without gateway. It needs to run from 9.2 or lower, and doesn't support Gateway. It does not boot emuNand only sysnand patched for region free and plugin support. This is not a way to run emuNand without Gateway and still run unsigned files.

 

[alin72]

Way to go bro! This is really cool.

 

[jaku]

SNIP.

First thanks for making the suggestion for the save conversion tool, and of course extra thanks to cell9 for coding it.

With that out of the way, you come across as an entitled dick. Just because you are "as helpful as anyone here" doesn't mean you're not a jerk. You can be a jerk and still be helpful.

The NTR firmware is pretty awesome, you don't need to run unsigned code because there are other solutions out there. You could run some restricted hombrew with the CN exploit, or if you wanted you could use Gateway. That is your choice on what to use. Just like cell9 has a choice on what the NTR firmware does. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean he is treating us like "6-year-old kids". You have a choice to use this, or one of the other options out there. If anything you are the 6-year-old that is upset that he can't get his way and is going to scream and cry about it to try and make it happen.

Piracy.. that is always a fun topic right. So many people have feelings on it in all sorts of ways. Honestly, I can't think of the last time I actually pirated a game. It's been a long time for sure. I understand the side that says it doesn't actually hurt sales and the other says it does. In the end it doesn't really matter what you or I think on the topic. You can pirate a game if you want with Gateway or Sky3DS. Those are some of the solutions available out there for you. Oh but it isn't free! So what, you can't always get your way and have a free solution for something.

Do you actually know what game developers make? Not all of them are driving around in Lamborghini or Cadillacs. Most developers don't even seen most of the money that their game may end up making. This is a stupid thing to even say now a days, but I digress. You said "Would you have me believe people are hurting that have a much larger annual income than I do? Go on, pull the other one.". So what, because they make more than you, it's justifiable to you to do what you want. Get better at life, get a better job, make more money. Or if you don't want to do that, and you certainly don't have to cause that is your choice then don't. So in the end, stop trying to justify your actions. If they were actually justifiably you wouldn't need to make such a long post and come up with a bunch of reasons why others are stifling innovation and treating us like 6-year-olds. Grow up.

 

[Duckbuster]

Thank you cell9 for this CFW and Savegame Manager plugin. Managed to put 2 of my save games from retail cards to roms. Great work.
9.0 EU N3DS here btw.

 

[jackkill]

You're aware that if you want me (or anyone else) to believe a wild rumor like that, you need to link some proof, right? Youtube video being the bare minimum requirement. Something like the DS Profile exploit working on the N3DS, though, I'm going to need a link to some files with which I can reproduce this experiment before I can take it at face value. So far it's been all vaporware with the KARL team. Not even so much as a release. I'm supposed to believe they've all of a sudden created a SysNAND mod on hearsay? Link please.

I'm not sure why you think I'm a jerk. I'm as helpful as anyone here. I help people all the time when they ask questions. And I just helped the community obtain a valuable tool. Granted, cell9 coded it. Still, if I hadn't made him aware of this massive void in the way of save conversion tools, it still wouldn't exist. So, I'm a jerk for what exactly? Making a complaint that got results and gave people something useful? You want to deduct points for style or something? It worked, didn't it? The squeaky wheel gets the grease, pal.

Or maybe you think my attitude towards cell9 is not as respectful as it should be. Sorry, but I don't just bow down to someone and call them "master" because they can code. Respect is something you earn. You don't earn any when you don't show anyone else any. And so far, cell9 treats his users about the same as the PC game industry treats their customers. Like convicted felons. I'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility". You'd have to be living in a cave not to. Well, is cell9 entrusting his users with any responsibility? No. That should tell you what else they're not getting. He doesn't trust his users to do the right thing, so he's made all of their decisions for them like they're 6-year-old kids. If you don't trust others, then why should they trust you? Yes, he's a pretty nice guy in general. He did help me with my problem, after all. He's just got some major trust issues, and an extremely negative perspective of humanity. I don't hold that against him though. The anti-civilization in which we live just has that effect on people. But I'm not going to just sit here and take accusations like a board that doesn't hit back, either. You say the "p" word, it's on.

I think you're getting the term "principled" confused with naive. cell9 has swallowed the lie being perpetrated by uncompetitive big business, greedy parasitic politicians, and the socialist media. He believes so-called "piracy" hurts sales (in spite of the existence of research showing, for example, that people who download music buy more of it, not less). If that were the case, then I should not have a lot of retail games sitting around here, being a "filthy pirate" and all right? But I do. In fact, even as badly as Diablo III burned me on the PC, I went out and bought the PS3 version on release day. Why? Because having spent all weekend playing it (yes, I had a copy already), I decided Blizzard had redeemed themselves and created a good game. I invariably end up with more games than any of the "non-pirates" I know. The lost sale is a myth. Does someone looking to buy a game go to Amazon or TPB? Since TPB doesn't even sell retail games, the answer should be obvious. Do you really think someone's going to run out and buy a game just because it's not listed at TPB? No. They are going to move on down the new release list until they do find something to try. cell9 thinks people like me are all a bunch of freeloading thieves. I take offense at that. Files don't even have value (infinite supply, zero demand, it's basic economics). Being a collector, I know that better than most. It's not theft. It's not even copyright infringement. Our copyright laws aren't even being properly interpreted. Never mind their intended purpose is to provide an incentive to create works. All they've done is create artificial monopolies and stifle innovation. They need to go. It's also common sense that no one works for free, game developers included. He insults our intelligence by implying we don't get that. I've probably got more 3DS carts than he does. If anything, the abundance of all these free copies only highlights their non-value and makes me appreciate the genuine article more.

Are you implying I'm not principled? I have principles. Just because they're not the same as yours, that doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm always honest, if not always nice (because I've learned what nice gets you -- taken advantage of). I always tell the truth to the best of my knowledge. I do call people out when they use bad logic or say something that's blatantly false. Such as "piracy hurts sales". No. Fair use is good for sales. I am for free markets. I would deregulate them all, because it would lead to technological advances on a scale the world has never seen (unemployment would be gone, we'd have a shortage of people to fill the demand for the new fields of technology that would be emerging). cell9 is for the status quo. Big business stifling innovation. Showing sympathy to millionaires (like they need it?). If any of this lost sales nonsense were even true, I'm supposed to feel bad because a game developer had to settle for a Cadillac instead of a Lamborghini? Would you have me believe people are hurting that have a much larger annual income than I do? Go on, pull the other one.

Here's the youtube video:

 

[kamesenin888]

Can anyone confirm if with ntr 1.0 you can decrypt 6.x+ saves?

 

[MelonGx]

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Can anyone confirm if with ntr 1.0 you can decrypt 6.x+ saves?

If NTR 1.0 could be booted from SysNAND 6.0-9.2, then it would have worked.

 

[cell9]

Can anyone confirm if with ntr 1.0 you can decrypt 6.x+ saves?

Nope, since ntr 1.0 only works on 4.5 fw consoles.

 

[cell9]

...Well, is cell9 entrusting his users with any responsibility? No. That should tell you what else they're not getting. He doesn't trust his users to do the right thing, so he's made all of their decisions for them like they're 6-year-old kids. If you don't trust others, then why should they trust you? Yes, he's a pretty nice guy in general. He did help me with my problem, after all. He's just got some major trust issues, and an extremely negative perspective of humanity. I don't hold that against him though. The anti-civilization in which we live just has that effect on people. But I'm not going to just sit here and take accusations like a board that doesn't hit back, either. You say the "p" word, it's on....

I don't think making a rom-loader is linked with showing trust to people.

 

[Codename]

Nope, since ntr 1.0 only works on 4.5 fw consoles.

So to clarify: this can't be used to convert 6.x encrypted retail saves to pre-6.x encryption retail saves?

 

[cell9]

So to clarify: this can't be used to convert 6.x encrypted retail saves to pre-6.x encryption retail saves?

you can convert it between NTR 2.0 and NTR 1.0 if you have both.

 

[Codename]

you can convert it between NTR 2.0 and NTR 1.0 if you have both.

So you mean that I could convert my saves from 4.x encryption to 6.x encryption and vice versa if I had a 3DS running NTR CFW 1.0 and an N3DS running NTR CFW 2.0? If so, is there any way at all that you could develop a standalone save converter homebrew app?

 

[cell9]

So you mean that I could convert my saves from 4.x encryption to 6.x encryption and vice versa if I had a 3DS running NTR CFW 1.0 and an N3DS running NTR CFW 2.0? If so, is there any way at all that you could develop a standalone save converter homebrew app?

nope for standalone save convert, since NTR haven't touched any of the save-game keys.

 

[ryulejzzu]

So, if i understand, i can use this to extract the save of my pokemon AS, edit it with pokehex if i want and backup it again the game? I have an old 3ds and my AS save is with 4.x encryption (emunand in 9.6, sysnand 4.2).

Correct me if i'm wrong please.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

So far it's been all vaporware with the KARL team. Not even so much as a release.

<snipperoni on dragged out argument against piracy>

You act as if we never released bootstrap at all, huh. ARM11 Kernel has always been open, and now ARM9 is as well. And FWIW we've demonstrated our abilities several times over between emuNAND and CSND working on an N3DS before Gateway even released.

And in regards to NTR and piracy, NTR never gains ARM9 AFAIK, so it's not even a matter of implementation or limitation at all, this CFW is a slightly lower level CFW which is focused more on ARM11 and debugging than it is focused on ARM9 and the stuff there. And once again, personal piracy and enabling piracy for thousands is a completely different thing. Plus it's a name association thing, no decent developer would want to take credit for enabling that level of piracy.

 

[Kazuma77]

First thanks for making the suggestion for the save conversion tool, and of course extra thanks to cell9 for coding it.

With that out of the way, you come across as an entitled dick. Just because you are "as helpful as anyone here" doesn't mean you're not a jerk. You can be a jerk and still be helpful.

The NTR firmware is pretty awesome, you don't need to run unsigned code because there are other solutions out there. You could run some restricted hombrew with the CN exploit, or if you wanted you could use Gateway. That is your choice on what to use. Just like cell9 has a choice on what the NTR firmware does. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean he is treating us like "6-year-old kids". You have a choice to use this, or one of the other options out there. If anything you are the 6-year-old that is upset that he can't get his way and is going to scream and cry about it to try and make it happen.

Piracy.. that is always a fun topic right. So many people have feelings on it in all sorts of ways. Honestly, I can't think of the last time I actually pirated a game. It's been a long time for sure. I understand the side that says it doesn't actually hurt sales and the other says it does. In the end it doesn't really matter what you or I think on the topic. You can pirate a game if you want with Gateway or Sky3DS. Those are some of the solutions available out there for you. Oh but it isn't free! So what, you can't always get your way and have a free solution for something.

Do you actually know what game developers make? Not all of them are driving around in Lamborghini or Cadillacs. Most developers don't even seen most of the money that their game may end up making. This is a stupid thing to even say now a days, but I digress. You said "Would you have me believe people are hurting that have a much larger annual income than I do? Go on, pull the other one.". So what, because they make more than you, it's justifiable to you to do what you want. Get better at life, get a better job, make more money. Or if you don't want to do that, and you certainly don't have to cause that is your choice then don't. So in the end, stop trying to justify your actions. If they were actually justifiably you wouldn't need to make such a long post and come up with a bunch of reasons why others are stifling innovation and treating us like 6-year-olds. Grow up.

I disagree with your opinion that NTR is awesome. It's a decent multi-region tool if you own a Japanese or US N3DS. If you own a European one, it has a tendency to give "card has been ejected" errors. I don't have any real EUR games to check, but the ones I ran on my Sky on the US unit did much better. It's not bad, but not as good as GW Classic Mode, especially with the inability to use updates via your eShop EmuNAND (I don't use my CIA EmuNAND with Classic Mode for obvious reasons). Also, the need to enter your pin before running a game is obnoxious (the only parental control I have enabled is eShop, just in case I hit it by mistake in SysNAND, nothing else is locked, especially game ratings, so this should not occur). Ultimately, I'm probably not going to use it in place of Classic Mode. The save dumping plugin is very nice, but that's not something I'll be running it for often. For the time being, you barely even notice NTR is there at all. Sure it has the snapshot plugin, but I play games like a gamer, not a tourist. I don't feel the compulsion to take a picture of my game screen every 5 minutes, so I'll probably never use this. Now, I'm not saying it doesn't have the potential to become awesome. It's not like I've seen every plugin he has planned. For now, enabling DSiWare would be a quick way to keep us dual flash card owners interested (let me worry about getting it installed, cell9, if you can enable it to run, I can do the rest). If the extra power of the N3DS provides enough overhead for real-time translation of JRPGs, now that would be pretty awesome, alright. But awesome is not where it's at now. In it's current form, I would probably only run it maybe once every 3 months, because I don't need multi-region).

Jeez, does no one read around here? How many times have I already said I have a Sky3DS and two Gateways? Why does everyone assume I just want a free solution to everything? Is there something you're all copying and pasting from? You debate like a liberal. Stereotyping everyone who doesn't see things your way. As I've said before, I think nothing of having to buy both carts to fully unlock the N3DS. I paid $300 a piece for my Z64, SWC DX2 and Magic Super Griffin back in the day. And then I spent even more on those old systems when the flash adapters came out. I've got almost every Everdrive Krikzz makes (except the GG one, because I don't own a Game Gear, and the ED64 and Super ED because I went with better devices). I also own the Powerpak, SD2SNES, 64drive (the flash adapter, not that addon that came out in Japan), Coleco Ultimate SD, Harmony, Cuttle Cart 3, The!Cart, MyIDE II, SIO2SD, 1541 Ultimate II, and one of Lotharek's MIST boards. I'm guessing you play your ROMs on those inaccurate free emulators. Who's the cheap-ass again?

I'm more grown up than you'll ever be. Suggesting that the length of my posts has anything to do with the justifiability of my actions is the most juvenile and illogical statement I've seen this year. I'm expressing an extremely unpopular view. I have a hard sell to make. It's necessarily going to take more words to make a convincing argument than the popular viewpoint. That doesn't make the popular viewpoint correct. Popular viewpoints are often proven wrong. "The world is flat." was once a popular opinion. So was "Earth is the center of the universe." These myths weren't busted with short statements, but lengthy discussions and in-depth analysis. If I want to add "ideas are property" to that list, I can't keep it short either. Plus, I have ADD. Get over it.

You don't even understand what forums are for. They're not for kissing ass. They're for having discussions. That is what is going on here. We are having a discussion. I'm telling the author what his software does right, where it messes up, and what features I would like to see added. Of course it's his software. It's not like I'm able to exert mind control. But everyone's entitled to their opinion of it, favorable or not, and whether they agree with the author's philosophical views or not. I'm going to suggest features I want to see. Get used to it. Did I request CIA support last time? No, I requested the ability to RUN DSiWare. That would imply I have the ability to INSTALL it already. See, if you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed I have a Gateway.

I said copyright law stifles innovation in general. There's one commercial OS for the PC. M$ has an artificial monopoly created via copyright abuse. That's not a good thing. However, I never accused cell9 of stifling innovation (just the copyright laws he believes in).

I'm not sure why people like you and the previous person I responded to want to fan the flames either. cell9 and I have agreed to disagree already, and work together where we can find common ground. I've accepted he's not going to add CIA support and moved on. Hence why I said that, while I'd still like to see it, for the sake of leveling the playing field between the two flash cart manufacturers, I know this train isn't going there. SINCE SOME OF YOU ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULL, PLEASE READ THE REST OF THIS PARAGRAPH THREE TIMES BEFORE REPLYING: It's not that I ever wanted CIA support for myself. I just think competition is good, so I don't want to see either flash cart manufacturer dominate. A CFW for 9.x that runs CIAs might help Sky catch up to Gateway sales-wise. That is the only reason I'd like to see one. I realize cell9 is not going to be the one to do it. And again, I already have CIA support. Sure, adding it to this might eliminate that obnoxious GW swap, but it wouldn't actually do anything I can't already. I have two Gateways and a Sky3DS.

As for what game developers make, it really doesn't concern me. I don't mind that they all make more money than I do. They've earned it. They can and should do what they want with it. The point is for them to complain about so-called "piracy" is about as pathetic as Bill Gates complaining about what he's paying for Internet access.

I don't think making a rom-loader is linked with showing trust to people.

First, who's talking about making a ROM loader? Neither flash cart would benefit from that. They already have them. Sky doesn't have GW mode. I just think it would make it a more even race if there was a CFW with similar features for the Sky. But I'm probably worrying over nothing. There aren't that many CN carts. Most people are going to have to buy a Sky just to run any exploits at all on an N3DS. So, it will probably even out on its own. I just like seeing a level playing field. Though admittedly, the Sky team should be working on their own.

Don't take it the wrong way. You're a nice person with good intent, but you do come off as untrusting and a bit of an elitist. Nice try to derail my logic by asking how two things that aren't related are related. We both know the primary purpose of a read-only OS. And I really don't care if that's the way you want to roll, but you seem incapable of acknowledging that backup devices have a valid use. "I only play retail carts and you should too." Well, my coat pockets aren't that big, and I don't have the psionic ability to identify my game cards by mere touch, so, running backups from a flash cart is more practical for me. Indeed, maybe all of my uses for them aren't "legitimate" but, I buy more games than any "non-pirate" I know, so, it's not like the industry is getting less money from me than they otherwise would. I can't speak for everyone, but I do believe the vast majority of so-called "pirates" support the industry the same way I do.

So you mean that I could convert my saves from 4.x encryption to 6.x encryption and vice versa if I had a 3DS running NTR CFW 1.0 and an N3DS running NTR CFW 2.0? If so, is there any way at all that you could develop a standalone save converter homebrew app?

Or, if you have a Gateway, once the save is extracted with NTR 2.x, you could boot GW mode, launch the ROM to create a save, rename the save to 000400000FF40A00.sav on your PC, run SDF with the ROM loaded (select it from the multi-menu so that it's icon is showing, but don't run it) in GW mode, export the save from CTR Card, copy the files from the NTR 2.x save over to the "filer" folder that contains the same files (it will be the folder inside the date folder) using your PC, go back into SDF with the ROM loaded in GW mode, go to the SD tab, import the save back to the CTR Card, rename 000400000FF40A00.sav back to the actual game's cart ID, then go back into GW mode and load your ROM. If all went well, your save should load.

Here's the youtube video:

That's not MSET running. MSET is selecting DS Profile and getting the Gateway menu. That's just some fool that's installed Flash Card Time Warp so they can run their blue card on their N3DS. I can already do what was shown in that video without breaking my whitelist and alerting Nintendo to the fact I've made changes to their system. All I have to do is insert my DSTwo and tap the cart's icon.

You act as if we never released bootstrap at all, huh. ARM11 Kernel has always been open, and now ARM9 is as well. And FWIW we've demonstrated our abilities several times over between emuNAND and CSND working on an N3DS before Gateway even released.

And in regards to NTR and piracy, NTR never gains ARM9 AFAIK, so it's not even a matter of implementation or limitation at all, this CFW is a slightly lower level CFW which is focused more on ARM11 and debugging than it is focused on ARM9 and the stuff there. And once again, personal piracy and enabling piracy for thousands is a completely different thing. Plus it's a name association thing, no decent developer would want to take credit for enabling that level of piracy.

News to me. I looked your thread up, but didn't see any links to anything. I might have seen something about testing a bootstrap, but that's not exactly a CFW release, is it? Maybe it was an outdated thread though. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong if I missed something that I should have noticed. I'm only human (for now, hopefully the Singularity will change all of that soon ).