Homebrew Question about Mame etc and 240p

[sindrik]

You're right, it's too big.
This one has MK driver only: mame2003_libretro_1-3-MK or mame2003_libretro_1-0-2-MK
MK3 and UMK3 work ok.

And this one too : mame2003_libretro_1-0-2
It has drivers from the previous test.

I almost forgot imame4all_libretro_1.3.
Again, it's just a test build. Maybe quite buggy but a good thing since it's a bit lighter than mame2003.

Thanks for the cores! I couldn't make them work, though. Tested both, and all mk games.

 

[nakata6790]

list. I can't find a list of which games are supported in mame only. That'd be useful...

No problem
So here is a partial MAME list that is non CPS1, non CPS2, non NEO GEO and mostly non FBA (if the game also plays on the FBA core i note it).
I went through the T-Z letters tonight, when i have time i'll go through more letters.

Spoiler: Wii potential MAME list T-Z

• Two Crude
• TX-1
• Typhoon
• Twin Eagle II - The Rescue Mission
• Twin Eagle - Revenge Joe's Brother
• Twin Falcons
• Twin Hawk (though it plays on FBA)
• Twin Squash
• Twin Qix
• Twinkle (though it plays on FBA)
• Twin Action (though it plays on FBA)
• Twin Bee Yahhoo!
• Twin Cobra
• Twin Cobra II
• Turtle Ship
• Tutankham
• Turbo Tag
• Tugboat
• Tumble Pop (though it plays on FBA)
• Turbo
• Turbo Force (though it plays on FBA)
• Turbo Out Run (though it plays on FBA)
• Tropical Angel
• Truxton II / Tatsujin Oh (though it plays on FBA)
• Truxton (though it plays on FBA)
• Tube Panic
• Trog
• Trojan (though it plays on FBA)
• Triple Fun
• Trick Trap
• Tricky Doc
• Trigon / Lightning Fighters (though it plays on FBA)
• Trio The Punch - Never Forget Me...
• Transformer
• Transformers Beast Wars II
• Tranquilizer Gun
• Traverse USA
• Treasure Hunt
• Tough Turf
• Toukidenshou - Angel Eyes
• Tournament Arkanoid
• Toushin Blazers / Karate Blazers (though it plays on FBA)
• Toy Land Adventure
• Toypop
• Track & Field
• Torus
• Toryumon
• Total Carnage
• TouchDown Fever 2
• TouchDown Fever
• Toppy & Rappy
• Tiger Road
• Top Racer / Pole Position
• Top Ranking Stars
• Top Roller
• Top Secret / Bionic Commando
• Top Speed
• Top Gunner / Jackal (though it plays on FBA)
• Toobin'
• Top Blade V
• Toffy
• Tobikose! Jumpman
• Toki (though it plays on FBA)
• Toki no Senshi - Chrono Soldier
• Tokio / Scramble Formation
• Thundercade / Twin Formation
• Time Pilot '84
• Time Pilot
• Time Soldiers
• Time Tunnel
• Tip Top
• Tinkle Pit
• Title Fight
• Timber
• Time Killers
• Tiger Heli (though it plays on FBA)
• Tiger Road
• ThunderJaws
• Thunder Cross (though it plays on FBA)
• Thunder Cross II
• Thunder Ceptor II
• Thunder Dragon (though it plays on FBA)
• Thunder Dragon 2 (though it plays on FBA)
• Thunder Force AC
• Thunder Fox
• Thunder Heroes (though it plays on FBA)
• Thunder Strike
• Thunder Hoop (though it plays on FBA)
• Thunder & Lightning
• Thunder Blade
• Thunder Ceptor
• Thunder Blaster

• US AAF Mustang (though it plays on FBA)
• USA Pro Basketball
• Up'n Down
• Untouchables
• Ultra Balloon (though it plays on FBA)
• Ultraman (though it plays on FBA)
• Undercover Cops
• U.N. Defense Force: Earth Joker (though it plays on FBA)
• U.S. Championship V'ball
• Ufo Senshi Yohko Chan
• Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (sigh...)
• Ultimate Tennis

• Vs. T.K.O. Boxing
• Vs. Wrecking Crew
• Vs. Battle City
• Vs. Excitebike
• Vs. Dr. Mario
• Vs. Mach Rider
• Vs. Mighty Bomb Jack
• Vs. Platoon
• Vs. Slalom
• Vs. Super Mario Bros.
• Vs. Super Xevious
• Vs. Super SkyKid
• VS Block Breaker
• Vs. Balloon Fight
• Virtua Fighter (yeah, sure...)
• Virtua Racing (yeah, sure...)
• Virtua Striker (yeah, sure...)
• Vindicators
• Vindicators Part II
• Violence Fight
• Violent Storm
• Viper
• Viper Phase 1
• Vigilante (though it plays on FBA)
• Vimana (though it plays on FBA)
• Vicious Circle
• Victory Road
• Vendetta (though it plays on FBA)
• Versus Net Soccer
• Vandyke (though it plays on FBA)
• Van-Van Car
• Vanguard
• Vapor Trail - Hyper Offence Formation
• Varia Metal
• Vasara
• Vasara 2
• Vastar
• V Goal Soccer
• V-Five / Grind Stormer
• Valkyrie No Densetsu
• Valtric
• Vamf x1/2

• World Wars
• Worldcup '90
• World Trophy Soccer
• WOW New Fantasia
• Wrestle War
• WWF Superstars
• WWF WrestleFest
• WWF: Wrestlemania
• Wyvern F-0
• Wyvern Wings
• World Rally
• World Rally 2: Twin Racing
• World Court
• World Grand Prix
• World Grand Prix 2
• World Beach Volley
• World Championship Soccer
• Wonder Boy in Monster Land
• Wonder Momo
• Wonder Planet
• Wivern Wings
• Wizard Fire
• Wolf Fang/Rohga Armor Force
• Winning Run
• Winning Spike
• Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa
• Wild Fang / Tecmo Knight (though it plays on FBA)
• Wheel Of Fortune
• Wheels & Fire
• Wheels Runner
• WEC Le Mans 24
• Welltris
• Western Express
• Wanted
• War of Aero - Project MEIOU (though it plays on FBA)
• Wardner
• Wardner no Mori
• Warzard (CPS3 game though...)
• Water Balls
• Water Match
• Water Ski
• Wacko
• Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car
• Wall Street

• Xybots
• XX Mission
• Xain'd Sleena (amazing game, a personal favorite)
• Xenon
• Xenophobe
• Xevious
• Xevious 3D/G (yeah, right)
• Xexex
• Xmen (though it plays on FBA)
• X-Plan
• X Multiply

• Yakyuu Kakutou League-Man/Ninja Baseball Bat Man
• Yam! Yam!?
• Yankee DO!
• Yellow Cab
• Yie Ar Kung-Fu
• Yokai Douchuuki
• Youma Ninpou Chou/Ninja Emaki

• zaxxon
• zaviga
• zero team
• zero point
• zoom 909
• Zunzunkyou No Yabou (Japan)
• Zwackery

If i may ask, can multi loading versions of the mame 2003 1.0.2 core and MK 1.0.2 core (that has no single rom loading arguments) be made?
Or failing that, a version of the iMame4all for 1.0.2?

 

[_KenshinX]

MK3 works on RA 1.3 with imame4all_libretro_1.3 and MK3 (mame 0.37 romset)... a bit slow.. but playable. Also tested and playable NBA JAM, Rampage World, Outrun, NBA Maximum Hangtime.

 

[Disorarara]

MK3 works on RA 1.3 with imame4all_libretro_1.3 and MK3 (mame 0.37 romset)... a bit slow.. but playable. Also tested and playable NBA JAM, Rampage World, Outrun, NBA Maximum Hangtime.

Can you give us an average framerate report or a video?

 

[_KenshinX]

Can you give us an average framerate report or a video?

43-45 FPS MK3/UMK3/MK2... 53 FPS MK1

 

[nakata6790]

Note that iMame4All core requires to be restarted between each game, otherwise it codedumps.
Also, UMK3 runs better than MK3, i was surprised. Sound is too low in MK games as well. Finally, in some games with the iMame4All cre, 2d elements are garbled a bit.

I also noticed that RA 1.3.0 FBA core has improved performance over the respective 1.0.2 version.

So i would like to ask
1) Could a version of the 1.3.0. FBA core be compiled but for the 1.0.2 frontent (and the wiimote 1,2 buttons as Y and B for retropad instead of Retropad A and B if possible)?
2) Could a version of the iMame4all core be compiled for the 1.0.2 frontent?


Before anyone asks, why am i not staying with the 1.3.0 version, it is not as my custom 1.0.2 build, that has wiimote control mapping as default, custom overlays, folder, ratios etc, and is more stable overall (1.3.0 has many cores codedumping if a savestate is attempted) and faster too (only exception is the FBA 1.3.0. core that is faster than 1.0.2.)

 

[MKKhanzo]

Note that iMame4All core requires to be restarted between each game, otherwise it codedumps.
Also, UMK3 runs better than MK3, i was surprised. Sound is too low in MK games as well. Finally, in some games with the iMame4All cre, 2d elements are garbled a bit.

I also noticed that RA 1.3.0 FBA core has improved performance over the respective 1.0.2 version.

So i would like to ask
1) Could a version of the 1.3.0. FBA core be compiled but for the 1.0.2 frontent (and the wiimote 1,2 buttons as Y and B for retropad instead of Retropad A and B if possible)?
2) Could a version of the iMame4all core be compiled for the 1.0.2 frontent?


Before anyone asks, why am i not staying with the 1.3.0 version, it is not as my custom 1.0.2 build, that has wiimote control mapping as default, custom overlays, folder, ratios etc, and is more stable overall (1.3.0 has many cores codedumping if a savestate is attempted) and faster too (only exception is the FBA 1.3.0. core that is faster than 1.0.2.)

I second this motion And also would LOVE a compiled version for 0.9.9 wich IMO is teh MOST stable of all RA releases.

BTW @nataka6790 how much framerate does UMK3 manage to get? Can you replay it and test it? The normal fos for ALL MK games is 53.2.

Thx in advance!!!

 

[nakata6790]

I second this motion And also would LOVE a compiled version for 0.9.9 wich IMO is teh MOST stable of all RA releases.

Trust me, 1.0.2 is better than 0.9.9 (yes even the NGP core after customization) both in performance (FBA 0.9.9 is slower than 1.0.2) and function (custom 1.0.2. saves directory, overlays, custom input etc). I say this cause back then i meticulously tested every RA release on the Wii and all custom cores by various people on the libretro forums.

In fact i'll soon upload the customized 1.0.2 Wii RA ( with zerofalcon's mGBA 1.0.2 core included) for people to play and enjoy. Only thing it is missing is the iMame4All core for 1.0.2 if and when that can be compiled.

BTW @nataka6790 how much framerate does UMK3 manage to get? Can you replay it and test it? The normal fos for ALL MK games is 53.2.Thx in advance!!!

Ok i' ll try it out and report back.

 

[MKKhanzo]

Trust me, 1.0.2 is better than 0.9.9 (yes even the NGP core after customization) both in performance (FBA 0.9.9 is slower than 1.0.2) and function (custom 1.0.2. saves directory, overlays, custom input etc). I say this cause back then i meticulously tested every RA release on the Wii and all custom cores by various people on the libretro forums.

In fact i'll soon upload the customized 1.0.2 Wii RA (mGBA 1.0.2 core included) for people to play and enjoy. Only thing it is missing is the iMame4All core for 1.0.2 if and when that can be compiled.


Ok i' ll try it out and report back.

Thanks a lot my friend, I will be looking for that RA upload!

 

[nakata6790]

OK as promised, here is the custom 1.0.2 RA Wii build:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xphdn7

Download, unzip and put the contents on the SD card.
Roms for each system should go to the corresponding subfolder(s) in the = RETRO folder.
Bios, overlays, folders, aspect ratios, core settings etc. are already configured per system.
Also note that controls are customised for wiimote input (wiimote 1 is Y, wiimote 2 is B, wiimote B is A and wiimote A is X).If you want to change it, simply go to settings-->input--> and enable auto detect. Now if you connect any other controller (classic controller etc.) it will be automatically detected and used.

Also, a MK report for the 1.3.0 iMame4All core:
UMK3 runs from 53.9 to 36.3 fps according to RA framerate counter
MK3 runs from 53.2 to 39.3 fps according to RA framerate counter

UMK3 however has less sound crackling than MK3, which slows down more often (lowest when after an uppercut you break through the ceiling to the level above as well as levels like the church). UMK3 is closet to MK2 performance in most cases and steadier overall.

 

[Askot]

@nakata6790, do you know if mame core can run battloads (btoads.zip)?

 

[zerofalcon]

Here's the latest mame2000 (previously named imame4all) compiled to work with 1.0.0.2 RA frontend. Some fixes were made just a few hours ago, this is the most recent change on github:

Small fix that makes YM3526 music work (Bubble Bobble, Karnov,tc).

Download link mame2000:
https://anonfiles.com/file/9441acabf0f419843a9d5b1c36b05162

Detailed list of compatible games (37b5 romset):
https://anonfiles.com/file/c362578707421927cbe4c05222f87bd9

The builds for mortal kombat games crash after loading a rom, I'll try to recompile it with only the Midway drivers for mame2003/mame078 with frontend 1.0.0.2. Mk games with mame2000 run very poorly, only mk1 works fine; if you want to play another game with mame2000, dont load directly from content or it will crash, instead, reload the core and proceed to load the rom. Btw NBA JAM runs great at a decent framerate with this same mame core.
Battletoads arcade is marked as working with mame2003 under the RARE drivers, I'll try to add it too.

 

[MKKhanzo]

Thanks for the test @nataka6790 and @zerofalcon for compiling!

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Thanks for the test @nataka6790 and @zerofalcon for compiling!

 

[nakata6790]

@zerofalcon Thanks once again for a great upload!

@nakata6790, do you know if mame core can run battloads (btoads.zip)?

Unfortunately this rom causes a codedump with the MAME 2000 1.0.2 core.
Also, games like Outrun, Valkyrie etc have garbled graphics while others like XSleena have garbled GUI elements. Not unplayable by far, but not perfect either.

Finally, for people here to know what to run with the MAME 2000 1.0.2. core, after a small test, i made a folder with roms that are not FBA supported, not CPS1, not CPS2 and non NEO GEO, but should work with MAME 2000 core.
i haven't tested ALL of them (yet) but most of 'em should be ok:

More as i playtest further, more feedback should be appreciated

 

[sindrik]

Some updated reports!

You're right, it's too big.
This one has MK driver only: mame2003_libretro_1-3-MK or mame2003_libretro_1-0-2-MK
MK3 and UMK3 work ok.

And this one too : mame2003_libretro_1-0-2
It has drivers from the previous test.

I almost forgot imame4all_libretro_1.3.
Again, it's just a test build. Maybe quite buggy but a good thing since it's a bit lighter than mame2003.

imame4all works nice, though around 10fps slower than the 1.3 build (tested with NBA Jam games). MKLA4.ZIP does not run here, MK2-3-UMK do. The button for mame config in-game is not connected to Zr so buttons can't be changed at the moment.

None of the three MAME 2003 dol worked for me.

Here's the latest mame2000 (previously named imame4all) compiled to work with 1.0.0.2 RA frontend. Some fixes were made just a few hours ago, this is the most recent change on github:

Small fix that makes YM3526 music work (Bubble Bobble, Karnov,tc).

Download link mame2000:
https://anonfiles.com/file/9441acabf0f419843a9d5b1c36b05162

NBA Jam games are totally playable, faster than the 1.3.0.0 build provided in the previous post. MK games run decently. MKLA4.ZIP doesn't run here either. The button for mame config in-game is not connected to Zr so buttons can't be changed at the moment.

 

[soniccomcisbr]

@nakata6790 I tried some of the games(not all) in this list but some of them I could not run: angelkids, arabian fight, Captain America and The Avengers, Elevator Action Returns, Robocop, Robocop 2, Xain'd Sleena, Wizardfire, Violent Storm. Any of these worked for me.

I tried all the cores of this topic, but the only one who really worked for me was the one called "imame4all", all the other i could not run any game. Can you help me with this.

Also, I see Q*Bert is running, but need samples. Where is the samples folder?

 

[nakata6790]

Ok these past few days i tested more from the iMame4All 1.0.2 core:

Some updated reports!
imame4all works nice, though around 10fps slower than the 1.3 build (tested with NBA Jam games).
NBA Jam games are totally playable, faster than the 1.3.0.0 build provided in the previous post. MK games run decently. MKLA4.ZIP doesn't run here either. The button for mame config in-game is not connected to Zr so buttons can't be changed at the moment.

mkla4 does run with the iMame4all 1.0.2 core.

@soniccomcisbr

• angelkids
• arabian fight
• Elevator Action Returns
• Robocop 2
• Violent Storm

are not supported by MAME 37b11

These work:

• Robocop
• Xain'd Sleena
• Wizardfire (isn't this the same as Dark Seal, that one works)

Also a very big tip for anyone looking for Mame 37b11 roms: check loveroms. You can find individual roms there, without having to download complete romsets or clone, etc.

 

[MKKhanzo]

Thx for the tips on the 0.37 sets, but careful with those posts at the same time friend.

 

[Buttcher88]

Would it be possible to add the Mame 2003 1.2.2 core to the reconfigured 1.0.0.2 retroarch setup? I ask this because certain games (Wrestlefest, etc) don't run on the Mame 2000 core. Really appreciate all the work you guys put into this. Never thought I'd ever be playing NBA Jam and Mortal Kombat mame on my Wii!

 

[Disorarara]

The MAME core leaves much to be desired tbh, I remember squarepusher saying the Wii would need a DCS speedhack to be full speed on the midway games. I wonder if this MAME core has the speedhack.