PS Vita Facts

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Oct 20, 2012

PS Vita Facts by Lurker2 at 12:48 AM (4,303 Views / 4 Likes) 94 Comments

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    RodrigoDavy AAAHHHHRRRRRRRR!

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    I guess I didn't elaborate my point, it is better to buy another micro sd card which is cheaper and can be used with a tons of other devices than a memory stick. I just mentioned because I read people saying things like "So what, the memory stick is expensive? It's a one time buy" and things like that. Well, i guess I didn't elaborate well my own idea...


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    There have been some great sales on the device.

    This thread isn't just about sales. I just listed some features and some numbers. I wasn't trying to dump on the Vita I am going to buy a 3DS or Vita this black friday. I even track deals and have topics deals for both systems. BortzANATOR covered competition which seemed to be the only post in the thread going over something that hasn't been listed.


    That information is in the op I know it isn't the most clear but it has information in it.
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    emigre Putting out the fire with gasoline

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    SD and the Memory Stick format are not in competition. The latter is only used with the Vita. The former is not used with the Vita.
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    RodrigoDavy AAAHHHHRRRRRRRR!

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    I felt a little offended and sad with your original post, you do have the right to criticize my logic since I'm not a perfect human being, you also have the right to bash if it's wrong, but it's your choice to do it or not. I was only saying you can be nice with other people if you want to, but sorry if I bothered you, really! And I accept your apologies and I apologize myself if I done anything wrong. :)
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    You don't seem to understand.
    It is too expensive.
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    trumpet-205 Embrace the darkness within

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    There are a lot of reason why Vita is doing so poorly,

    * Use of proprietary memory with premium price.
    You could go around this with a 4GB memory card and swapping games to and from PC/PS3. However the process is slow and time is money. Sony could've continue the use of Memory Stick Duo which is actually cheaper and faster than Vita memory. 32 GB MS Duo now cost as low as $50 vs $80 for Vita memory. Expensive memory format is an obstacle to digital library. You cannot compare it to PS2 because PS2 only has saves on its memory card.

    * Lack of advertisement
    Both Nintendo and Sony have poor advertisement but at least Nintendo is being aggressive and Sony is not.

    * High price and few games
    Combination of big price tag (3DS XL is cheaper than standard Vita), lack of advertisement, high cost to Vita memory = high cost and little incentive to buy Vita = poor system sales.
    This in return discourage developers to make games for Vita which further fueled poor system sales.
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    The part after "There have been some great sales on the device." wasn't directed towards you. I understand it may seem too expensive to you but from Sony's POV it is probably the lowest price point they can list it at and hope to gain any profit from it. The PSP released for $300 MSRP which was probably a realistic price at the time.
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    Just Another Gamer 星空のメモリア-Wish upon a shooting star- Fanboy

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    Nah you didn't bother me at all but in fairness technology changes and if you want to keep up you need to throw away the old and buy the new, thats how the system works.

    It is the same price as the 3DS when it was launched.
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    How does that justify the price?
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but in the Vita's case the price is more than justified, due to its capabilities/hardware. Do note that I am not saying it should never go down in price or anything >>;
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    This. Hardware wise the price is has more justification than the 3DS which only got what a few hardware upgrades while the Vita from the PSP was alot more significant. I want the price to be lower as well as everyone else but its not like the 3DS can justify its launch and current price anyway.
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    I didn't buy the 3DS at launch. And when I did buy a 3DS, it left me with no money for a Vita.
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    soulx #eattherude

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    ...what? The Vita isn't worth it at the current price for many people because of its game library.
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    A lot of complaints about the WoT.
    I made a smaller, easier to digest list of Vita facts, based on Lurker2's original post.

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    • Game developers are making games for 3DS and PSP because of poor Vita sales


    • PSP has sold twice the ammount Vita has within the same time frame


    • Vita is selling for a loss, it has to sell more than the PSP to make a profit


    • This could take up to three years and for that reason a price drop seems unlikely


    • They tried a similar tactic with the PS3 and it has yet to pay off


    • Poor marketing and exclusives are not too great, Vita's library is also poor


    • High price to develop for it may dissuade developers


    • Sony have closed several of their studios that released Vita games


    • At launch, Vita didn't had features the PSP had, like PS1 games support


    • Vita uses a new propietary format for memory expansion, users dislike the idea


    • Battery life is not too great on the Vita, apps are a huge drain on 3G data plan


    • Playstation Mobile does not allow developers to use the full system features


    • Crossplay and Remote Play features havent been used effectively


    • Vita is competing with the PSP, 3DS and the Smartphone market


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    By the way, I would love source links, just to confirm the legitimacy of this list. If possible.
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    So they should drop the price according to what most people are willing to pay for a device? I wish they could do that but they want to make money on it.
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    Did I say I never want it cheaper?

    For many people that don't own one yes its not worth it unless the Vita actually had something worth getting and P4 for me was the whole reason for having one. Plus I got bored of my 3DS way sooner before I got bored with my Vita. My phone in comparison is more entertaining though.
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    soulx #eattherude

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    I don't care.


    My whole point is that just because the 3DS was priced at $250 doesn't automatically make it okay for the Vita to be $250. Consumers just don't want a handheld that costs that much especially with such a paltry game library.
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    You've got to understand they have to make a profit on the device. The PS3 is a commercial failure unless it gets billions of dollars soon and they don't want a repeat of the PS3. Not to mention they will announce the PS4 sooner or later.
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    *snip

    So its not okay for a device superior hardware to be sold at the same price as a console that is hardly a stop forward in portable gaming and relies on nostaljia to sell better? Well if we all live in the idiotic world of soulx then sure that shit makes sense but fortunately we don't and companies can price their devices how they want. Like I said earlier the Vita's price is alot more justified than the 3DS and I would love to see how you rationalize the 3DS's launch and current price tag since its not even worth $250 when the only thing it can really do is play 3DS games while others atleast can do more than that.
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    I assure you all the things listed are true if you get past the poorly written part.
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/01/20/report-playstation-vita-components-cost-160
    http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=30520
    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/364006/psp-outselling-vita-21-new-sony-data-reveals/
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-closes-wipeout-studio-6392935
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