Hmm regarding the OP, I'll let ya know if I ever actually get anything tangibly worth anything from winning an internet debate. When it comes to law, really, the only thing that actually matters, is, could you prevent yourself from being put in a jail cell regardless of your thoughts on what you did or didn't do and your claims of what it was or wasn't? Because, really, if downloading is putting your ass on the line, literally (because in jail you might really need to worry about your ass, or rather you might be wanting to know if anyone else wishes to use it), then the point might be moot. Hey I can spout all sorts of interesting facts about the Canadian legal code, but, will it keep me out of jail? Because it is not always about who is right and who is wrong, but, were you able to win your case in court? You live in a world where the rich routinely abuse the poor, and the powerful routinely abuse the weak. Your rights routinely don't mean squat to those that can ignore them. I download because I can, not because it is right or wrong. I am also not in a desperate need to have anyone agree with me. My day will go fine regardless.