Piracy: Common Myths

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  1. endoverend

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    You absolutely can, because they agreed to it whether or not they read it. But multi-million dollar companies have better things to do.
     


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    That rather depends upon where you are in the world -- in many places such an agreement presented after the point of sale would render in null and void. Likewise there is still the contract law argument -- you might click through on an agreement to give me your first born child but it is not going to be enforceable, or in the case of a game mod there might well be a law/some case law that says you are free to mod your own devices/software.
     
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    Of course it depends on the area-- though I'm sure that, in the USA, signing a EULA displayed on-screen after purchase still constitutes a valid purchase and can be held against you in court (as decided in this case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProCD,_Inc._v._Zeidenberg)
     
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    And yet, it was rare occurrence, most people in the US, much less the Temp as a whole, really don't give damn about EULAs, just saying.
     
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    Let's just hope it stays that way, that these big companies don't pinpoint us little guys.
     
  6. Pluupy

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    Anybody know the ramifications of pirating video games which were never localized to your region? I've always wondered about that.
     
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    If it is a game that has been made in a country, who's licenced property has been acknowledged by other country's. And you live in such a country, then you would still have commited piracy. It does not matter if you where the targeted demographic or not for what was created. The moment you download/uploaded any piece of software, that has any form of licence that requires you to pay the maker or distributer. A law of piracy has still been broken, those laws do get a bit weird and grey ground when dealing with second hand stuff depending on where you are though. Such as selling keys for games you have bought/won/etc but the places you get them from normaly have such things standing in the terms-conditions. So as long as you are in a country, that acknowledges the copyrighted work of the country you pirated something from, (music/movie/games/etc) you can still be put to trial for it.
     
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    Very good list!
     
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    Really says a lot about the site and it's users when someone has to make a list of piracy myths and it gets stickied...
     
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    And yet you took the time to read it. Your point?
     
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    My point is that piracy kills some specific games, related to the public targeted for thephtml.

    That's the case for Ace attorney serie, for example. This type of game is played by 'elite' gamer. (The oposite Would be the 'normal' player that would play only AAA or équivalent game). This type of people would enjoy different type of game and not only COD, FIFA or fallout.

    Problem is that pirate are elite player IMO. Kind of casual geek that enjoy doing something cool with the hardware, even if they are just homebrew user and not maker.

    And so. About those specific game, their fate is to be sold to this target on few numbers, but then piracy comes in the way. The target itself is a pirate and a lot of them would pirate the game instead of buying. That means that the game serie might never be released in the country, etc.

    In oposite, a little girl playing my little brony on her console would probably not be a pirate. The target here is some type of player that would probable not hack the game.

    About ace attorney serie, i was told that the serie was the most pirated serie of the NDS game list.
    In my country, while we had AA1234 translated, AA investigation was never translated, then AAI2/didn't come out of japan. Now AA5 is only on eshop and not translated to.

    That's piracy work.
    Of course that doesn't mean not piracing = instant but, but in the AA case, that'means that public exists outqide of japan.

    Sorry for beeing a scumbag talking about elite

    Edit : a brief article about AA released
    http://www.destructoid.com/pirates-kill-the-new-ace-attorney-in-some-retail-zones-164215.phtml

    Pays attention to this :
    "So screw you Nintendo for making your consoles so easy to hack. That may be OK for you, considering you make so many games that appeal to people who couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag, but for third parties working to make core-friendly games, easily hacked consoles can be a death sentence"

    Forget how rude the author can be, just focus on the fact that like i said , public targeted by some games like Mario serie and other is not often a pirate, while other are over pirates by it's own potential customer.
     
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    well this is not the way the localziation say sinces its NEEDED to say that the obviously japan is Los angeles :B
    I mean , they do it thinking on the people that aren't the actual public , transforming a piece of work in a 4kids like joke :P I know the actuall AA fans don't care lol
    but I got wat you meant haha well I don't know , novel games are really a explicit public, but por example in china (I was looking about it these days btw) they don't have nintendo there (they have Ique that represent nintendo, sell console with their brand but less than 10 games or ach console get really localized also only nintendo games(you know, mario, zelda, starfox etc but no pokemon, AA for example), and you know right? piracy in china is really heavy, from fake carts to official and bootleg flashcards and some cases even consoles, there are a lot of unlicensed developers with stupid hacks, stupid semi/unlicensed original games and even interesting one, what amazed me is that they are HEAVY in fan translations ! gba pokemon for example there are more than one region version for each games ... anyway I'm amazed of the tons of translation they have , let start that mandarin have tons of characters o be added in the game, just drawing them all is a bunch of work, imagine making them work and show in screen! and sometimes without even taking off the available characters (I mean ABC or Japanese, etc) o_o
    So well all this for the sake of piracy?well, no, but games being more accessible! I know a lot burn them on a chip/disc , sell more flashcard and get a lot of money with this, probably the translation team are getting zero with it, and it's not not only "getting games 4 free", but understanding the game! I know a lot of people here that would love to play OOT but don't give a chance because don't know English /other available language US version have, they can play a translation (well not available on this case, but just an example), but need the piracy for this, but not having it original they go to mething easier to understand like football/ fps games ... I know some people are lazy even to play the game on their own language but this another case XD
     
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    Great article, Rydian. Here's a tl;dr version:

     
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    This video always makes me smile, lol
     
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    I've downloaded a few Copies of Gamecube games before, but mainly just to try em'...then i bought a physical disk, and backed them up to my USB HDD.
     
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    Wait so ur saying even if there is no old school games available for buying in my country I still can't enjoy them by downloading them and playing via emulator? I hate the law
     
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    Yup. Also UAE is one of the worst places for piracy.
     
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    only if you country have laws abput it .... like I think in cuba tehre aren't and every console there is hached
     
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    they don't care actually but they really really care about blocking porn

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    Only if ur caught but they mostly don't care alot on piracy but they do on porn or that's what I know.Plus I just wanna experience classics that's all
     
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    So what if? I pirated a game and then later sent money to Nintendo (as much as the game is)
    would that be pirating? cause you gave them money for the game.