North Korea and Trump

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  1. Youkai
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    Hey there,
    dunno what the news in other Countries say but it seems that North Korea is really trying to sound scary and maybe if we laugh to much about poor little kim he will actually use his Atomic Bomb ...
    Everyone is angry at Trump because he is not really diplomatic and nice but damn why not just do something about Kim ?

    Many people are saying it would have been better if Clinton would have won even thought lots of people were saying that she would probably be more into playing war than Trump -.-

    I do not like Trump and I could not really understand how he could win BUT I didn't really care and he didn't do anything bad to me so yeah all good ;) Still I think he is kind of right to tell Kim of
    If America or any other Nation would not have waited to damn long to do something about North Korea we would not have to fear a World War including Atomic bombs but yeah "lets just wait till he get even more weapons" seems to be what most people on the World think !

    My GF is telling me since more than 6 month now EVERY SINGLE DAY that we will get a 3rd World War and that noone should anger North Korea and of course not attack them.
    If someone would just throw a bomb on him and his fimily the North could be more or less free and we would not have to fear him pressing the red button on a whim.

    Why do all the big nations still want to "talk" with him.
    For me it sounds like they want to lick his ass and beg him not to attack.
    Trump is the only one who sees that talking with that guy makes no sense.
     
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    We just need to avoid military action at all cost but the neocons and liberal hawks will advocate for war as always and fuck things up
     
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    I hate to say this, but Obama wasn't doing anything to do something to North Korea, Bush didn't do anything to curtail or try to prevent NK from doing something stupid. And here we are, are we to be afraid? Are we to give in to fearmongering from the media? Honestly, I don't know what to think, but is there any solution to where someone would assassinate that pantywaist of an NK despot so that the government will collapse, freeing the people from that dumbass Kim?

    I'm sorry, but I hope something happens to Kim, something horrible so he can no longer be in power.
     
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    That is exactly what people say since many years and what did this do for us ? now they have atomic bombs -.-V

    It is like
    1. he comes with a stick in his hand, you laugh him off.
    2. he comes with an iron bar, you laugh again
    3. he comes with a gun, you look a little bit puzzle but laugh again
    4. he shoots you

    If you would have beaten him up while you could have than this would not have happened.

    Okay this does not mean you should kill anyone who comes at you with a stick in his hand BUT on this big scale allowing him to build nuclear weapons and such was a very big mistake !
    The UN should have done something long ago.

    War is one of the worst things you could start but with north korea, attacking could save lots of lifes.
    Noone knows if Kim will really attack and if not thats good but at least he has means to kill many many people on a whim.
     
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    I think people aren't seeing the big picture here.. The U.S. military is the most advanced military in the world. If North Korea tries to attack the United States or territories in which the U.S. military has established bases, North Korea could be shut down with a single aircraft carrier. This is why people are deeming Trump's actions as unnecessary and more or less irresponsible. The problem is not whether we can defeat a nation that consist of starving farmers, but how we can avoid killing millions of North Koreans and potentially stopping/mitigating any fallout from the international community. Of course we can bomb the crap out of North Korea and end this whole thing like nothing, but we can't just bomb a country that hasn't done anything to us yet. And we can't just assassinate their leader or we might just end up making his death a martyr.
     
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    Then what are we supposed to do, let that little manchild Kim get away with killing his own people? I'm not going to lie, there's no easy solution, and no matter what is decided, someone is royally screwed.
     
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    Why don't we bomb North Korea? Or at least where Kim lives. What a lard.
     
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    See this is where we need to be.. Trump made the mistake of rallying behind a merciless approach but if he claimed Human Rights violations as a reason for action, he would have way more support from the American people and the international community.
     
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    Seriously, if only someone killed Kim. That fat fucking lard.
     
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    That doesn't answer it though, what should we do? Let them just sit idly by as that little fat turd threatens us?
     
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    The problem with just killing Kim is "What happens next?".. Will his death be used as a martyr? Will the military leaders fight for power and potentially kill millions in the process?
     
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    The issue is that if we strike North Korea, they'll turn around and send South Korea back to the stone age. We're afraid of taking care of them now when they're weak because they're still strong enough to kill a lot of people. Perhaps it's just delaying the inevitable, but I don't think anyone wants to be responsible for the destruction of South Korea.
     
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    Does anyone think the North Koreans will welcome you as liberators?

    Generations of propaganda and the genuine resentment for killing millions during the war will not be easily forgotten.
     
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    No, we establish sanctions that make them hurt and we highlight human rights violations as a reason for any further actions we take... Military action should be our last option.
     
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    Because it would likely only make things worse, declaring war would probably be the first thing any successor would do.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    We have that first part done, sanctions placed on them, *sigh* I just...the whole thing is a joke.
     
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    Who is 'them'? You think the sanctions do anything other than hurt the people we are attempting to save?
     
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    Okay... But we aren't bombing North Koreans and we are giving them a reason to rethink their leadership.
     
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    No, we are (further) starving a populace who already hates us - this is likely seen as more of the same : the west attempting to exert its will over a leader who refuses to back down.