Nintendo and Nvidia team up to bring Gamecube and Wii classics to the Shield TV in China

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  1. Tom Bombadildo

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    That's interesting, cuz AFAIK the average internet speed in China is quite below the recommended speed GeForce Now requires :unsure: It's like 20mbps for 720p60fps, China's average speed is like 8mbps. Seems like an utterly awful place to implement a streaming service like that
     
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    There is always hope, maybe they messed up the listing :P
    Google translate shows these as "Classic Masterpiece" in the chinese site instead of Geforce Now like in other regions

    https://www.nvidia.com/zh-cn/shield/games/

    Maybe... just maybe they messed up
     
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    The model of business that DVD players follow.

    1 standard for DVD player (give or take a marginal regional difference)

    5000 makers of them and as many models models again with all varying features. They all however play DVDs.

    If console makers wanted to pack it in and do that then I would be delighted. Time was the makers could showcase a different strength (compare all the 8 bit and "minicomputer" stuff) but today they are only different enough to play to whatever the maker knows or is fabricating for another project.

    Is the switch a success? Seems a bit premature to call that one.

    Why wouldn't it be an afterthought? Low install base, minimal tools (though not as bad as it could be), not running android or something like that, not amazingly powerful, not so great controls. Clearly the thing you give to your b team to do a token appeasement for.

    The gameboy predates the DS and thus I did not feel the need to include it. If necessary I shall say from the game and watch to the DS, give or take the virtual boy, the Nintendo handhelds were doing great. With the rise of android and IOS though the Nintendo handhelds are languishing and missing out on a lot.

    No way am I calling the wii representative of gaming at the time -- have a PS3 and you would not miss much by not having a 360 and vice versa (unless you were into shmups), have a wii and even ignoring the massive drought at the end there (to cover an earlier thing I just quoted the wii u might have soured people but the end of the wii was not a good thing).
    I have said many times I find the 3ds library to be rather poor as it lost a lot of what made the GBA and DS as fantastic as they were -- I had a little series I ran here looking back at a lot of GBA and DS games, the "where are they now" parts usually showed them nowhere to be found on the DS.

    Line up strong? Compared to what? I expect a lot more before I use such words. I expect to have my wallet hurting if I am buying games new like it was on the 360 before I go there.
     
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    If this ever gets a chance to come to the US (which is unlikely, as you said), I'll be getting an Nvidia Shield TV, you can bet on that!
     
  5. jefffisher

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    why? a used wii is like $40 a shield is $200
    i do use a shield as my media device its better than a fire tv or apple tv if you can afford the extra $100 but buying one to play games you can already play way cheaper doesn't make much sense.
     
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    I had a PS3, and I felt like missing a lot actually. A PS3 without a Wii on its side and you miss a lot. You're also missing by not having a PC (If you like the RTS genre, for example).
    The only case where you don't miss one another is if you have whether a PS3 or a X360. But for a complete gaming experience the Wii was as much needed as the DS, at least imho.

    Line up strong compared to other current generations as I said. The PS4 line up was pretty crap (and again, I have a PS4 with almost 4TB of digital games on it, so i'm not exactly anti sony), the Switch line up makes people happy - in general (but yes you can always do better, where's my FZERO damnit)
     
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    The implication was that for its first 8 months? The Switch is doing rather amazing. Especially compared to its predecessor.. Of course it would be downright depressing otherwise. Is it early to consider the Switch a success? Of course. That doesn't dismiss the fact that it's holding up even with the glaring shortcomings.

    As for it being an afterthought? To some extent, that is highly problematic. Especially when you consider the "low install base".. As compared to the Xbox One and PS4 which have been out a substantial amount longer... Third party support is seemingly increasing. I'm not going to look down on devs and publishers for being skeptical with Nintendo and how they have performed as of recent. Though, To dismiss the Switch as a competent contender is pretty ignorant wouldn't you say? With all the risks big names have taken (looking at you specifically EA) why shouldn't they put some faith in a system that flew off the shelves and set a bar?

    It's only the first year.. And 2018 is looking promising.. Even if for ports or rereleases. I'd say it's off to an amazing start.
     
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    While the deal is still unmistakably Nintendo (only offering streaming of Wii games in China, which, as mentioned above, has below average internet speeds), it's nice to see Nintendo games branching out to other systems. I just wonder if something like this could evolve onto something bigger, perhaps.
     
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    My great hope if the fantasy of the DVD model does not come to pass. Nintendo fails hard and has to go third party as a consequence. Sadly they either had the handhelds to prop them up or random successes (I did not see amiibos getting as big as they did) for that cash injection to push that a bit further down the line.
    I find it amusing people are bashing young retroboy despite his protests otherwise where I am sitting here hoping for it.

    I do remember the good old wii60 combo at first. Maybe I am still a bit eh from the later years when nothing much happened and that fell by the wayside. PC rarely factors in these discussions -- barring oddities in the 90s it is always going to be streets ahead for those that can manage it, and that is before the back catalogue gets considered.
    I am not sure what you would have missed not having a wii if you managed to play wii sports somewhere to realise waggle controls were not up to much. I guess if you were really into N64 3d platformers then with the demise of crash, Rare, spyro and sonic, and did not want to replay banjo on XBLA, there was mario galaxy, otherwise I am not sure what gameplay styles were not represented elsewhere or had such astounding examples of quality on the wii that you could be said to be missing out (stuff like xenoblade would barely have rated as an also ran compared to the PS360 offerings).

    I found the Xbone and PS4 to be rather underwhelming thus far as well. That could be a saving grace for Nintendo in this. Had they been going up against something as strong as the PS2 or 360 then it would look a lot worse.

    I am not seeing the amazing thing. I will stop for this post short of contemplating return on investment for game devs though.

    Also comparing things to the wii u? A kick in the bollocks would be more amazing than that.

    I am still waiting for the switch to prove itself. Nintendo does not have the benefit of the doubt for me, they have to claw everything they can and prove it before I take note.

    "which have been out a substantial amount longer"
    And? If I am a game publisher my job is not to give them a fair chance but sell games. It is possible that a failed system can extract some value if consider the poor bastards with one and throw them a bone (all those failed tablets like the barnes and nobel thing make great case studies here). As a mighty gamer that gets to sit atop my throne with a knowledge of all what goes then the companies are the ones that fight to entertain me.

    As for 2018 I had a look earlier and I am not seeing it yet. Probably better than the last few have been (again largely underwhelming for me) but a far cry from some of the ones during the last generation.
     
  10. Retroboy

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    no idea where your getting that from, it means nothing to anything i said, i know when nintendo used to be on top form when it came to hardware, i mean they always used to aim to be better than sega and sony in the early days.

    when have any third party apologised to nintendo for not supporting them, the reason they end support is simply that the system IS NOT great enough, it costs them more to port its new titles over to inferior hardware and in return brings in less sales, hence why the support ends and they then focus on the hardware that they know can handle what theyre currently working on and it brings them good sales return.

    Zombi U i admit was a decent game, but i didnt like the Wii u pad control, it wasnt that it hopped on too early, its like (which you will see) a third party wanting to show support, but the system was DOA again due to its hardware, not the BS nintendo told its fans "OHH GAMERS DIDNT KNOW THE WII U WAS A NEW CONSOLE, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A WII ADDON".

    This game got its recognition as you say because it was then later ported to the other consoles...... now use this as the prime example to why third parties support these systems more than nintendo, brings in the sales for them.

    I understand that companies dont want to make the same mistake again, but tell me one thing, how many times have nintendo relied more on a fancy gimmick to make its inferior hardware sell.

    when was the last time nintendo released an actual system with hardware to even compete with its competition, consider this that the switch is in fact nintendo's next gen system and it cant even compete with current gen.

    its hardware is inferior....... so please use common sense here, why are devs going to pay more to publish its next big AAA title for nintendo when theyve learned in the past that it doesnt bring in the sales, hence why then end support.

    just like the WII U, devs are testing the waters, porting its older games over, DOOM is a bad example of the switch trying to run anything last gen, lets see how LA NIORE performs and compared to its cheaper counter part "HD REMASTER" on the PS4/XBX1 which is cheaper.

    its not safer to wait, again look how the lacking support did the wii u no favours, end of the game game support is crucial to a console, why do you think i have such beef when it comes to nintendo consoles, im pissed that it always lacks the option to buy these new titles for nintendo consoles.

    When i have a bookshelf full of PS4/XBX1 games and i only have 1 switch game which i got bored of and completed within a few weeks of it launching, and say a new third party title comes out that i like and if its not a shit port or costs more...... can you guess which system i would buy it on..... the two systems that i have shit loads of games, some not even completed yet, or the system i have nothing to play that i havent completed.

    now im sure you can see me point here, that you dont get that option when it comes to nintendo

    I actually refer to the taking a shite point because its what some of the nintendo fans on here say as a way to say its ok to pay more for an old game, the type of game they slated the other systems for being littered with, fps, blood guts gore..... when really y'all just got moist when you found out its coming to nintendo.....

    im like erm..... yea wow who cares, i already own the game, if i didnt i can get it for £10 (far cheaper than a shitty port).

    so just to recap, i buy a console to play games, its not my problem that nintendo do not provide the platform that third parties can support with its current new titles, i dont buy a console to play old games i already own.

    yup i fucking hate sony when they keep advertising discount sales on PS2/PS3 games, why the fuck would i pay you again to play what i already own.

    but anyway back to the point, im pretty sure that nintendo are teaming up with nvidia as a means to test ride the idea, see if it runs well considering the very close similarities between its shield and the switch.

    i can bet you any money if nintendo did then impliment this on the switch, when the fans all slate PS/XBX for having some last gen ports, yup again these fanboys will contradict because we know theyre all dying to get this feature, so how is it bad for PS/XBX third parties to do this, yet its A OK when its nintendo doing it.....

    i love the logics, its like back in the day Nintendo have better graphics, now its i dont give a shit about graphics its about fun gameplay..... all the games they slated is now ok and still on the dont give a shit about graphics, im playing these old games while taking a shite....

    hmmm, but im sure more folks will keep quoting me insisting their view is solid and my views which can be proven is not valid, ill then be told again in a quote by another member who thinks i should stop trying to get others to share my same view, yet that rule should apply to those who try quoting.....

    but they wont, they want to think nintendo is the best thing since sliced bread...... that i used to agree on many years ago, and trust me when i say this, sit back button those pretty little lips up and watch the third parties drop out, and when my problem has always been not having the option to play said titles where as i have on other systems comes true, im sure theyll go back to slating these games and will be loving em next gen when it gets ported over.
     
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    Are you needlessly calling people stupid or any other name because people don't agree with you? A bit of a difference between you and him.
     
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    i love how you say playing old games lol you do know that there is more people than you right? not everyone has a gc or wants to buy one to play 2or 3 games, same goes for all your "old games", sure i own a gc but smanny people dont so if they want to play sunshine and never had a gc or those 1st gen wiis they cant and buying an old console to play one games makes no sence, so rereleases and hd remasters are a way to make a new audience to play a great game people seem to forget there are new gamers everyday that dont have old consoles and dont want to buy an old has hell console to play 1 or 2 games, look at the wiiu it failed like hell so preety much no gamers ever played its exclusive games thats why making them available to people who never owned a wiiu is great, the wiiu still has alot of gems that are exclusive, xenoblades chronicles x,mario 3d world,splatoon,paper mario color splash,star fox zero,the wonderful 101,smash bros u, pikmin 3 and so on, its a shame those games get stuck ona console wich only got 10 millions units sold, generations from now on probably will want to try some of the games but never will becuase they arent gonna buy a wiiu to do so or gc or wii.

    To me the biggest loss on ps4 was loosing BC, i loved buying old games from ps1 and ps2 wich i never owned and play them on my phat ps3, srs that was amazing and its a shame i cant do that on ps4.
     
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    Than get an android phone and play all those great games on google store o wait they make money grabers not games
     
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    why would i need an android phone..... i own the actual consoles, i have an android based 3ds/vita kinda clone to play when away from home.

    :D
     
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    Where did I call people stupid or otherwise insult them? In the part quoted I merely said I found it amusing that people were accusing someone of something they outright denied, whereas such a label accurately fits my position.

    I am not the most familiar with android but I see plenty of games. The store front may be crap, something which is certainly a serious problem, but dismissing android because arcade 2.0 microtransaction bollocks seems akin to dismissing the DS because it had a mountain of shovelware released for it.
     
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    That actually sounds like a neat idea, though it kinda throws portable devices under the bus if home based devices push for the standard to be discs which do not transport well at all. Also, there could be the fear that piracy could run much more rampantly free in that scenario which is why devs trust consoles more for there games not to be cracked since there not as open as pc. You also get the pc effect of it being partly hit or miss with games working well, so there's a chance in there that developers themselves could nestle down with specific sets of company's knowing what there in for in developing which in a way somewhat feels like how we found our way into going from pc's that do games and utilitarian stuff to gaming systems that devs know as more consistent for them.
     
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    Regardless, 330€ for an ''upgraded Nintendo DSi'' is a bit steep.
    For a Switch, yeah fine since its both a home console and a portable console and it justifies the price just right, same goes for the PS4.
    But for the 3DS I don't think it justifies, plus, wasn't the console released in our country with a 249.00€ price tag at its launch? Don't know where you paid 330€ for it, but either way you got ripped off buddy.
     
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    I know it was $250USD at launch. That backlash was hilarious.
     
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    Though I would dismiss Google play as it's really shitty at getting high quality content at the foreground for the consumer to see. Curation is the Achilles heel of the mobile phone/tablet market.
     
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    Don't feel like arguing, so I'm just going say that I disagree with all this very narrow views of Nintendo. Especially when it goes as far as wanting Nintendo to fail.
    You want android on consoles?

    Anyway, it is a shame that it just a streaming service.