Hacking How do I know if my Wii has the WiiKey? Help!

[almmiron]

Are you sure you set up neogamma correctly? Also, you may have to remove the mod chip. It could be giving issues.
Just out of curiosity what co|or is this wii? The issue with neogamma not working is probably just a simple overlook on your part.
First suggestion would be to go back over the wii and make sure everything is set up for neogamma to work properly. If all is good there then you may have to remove the mod chip. All is definitely not lost here. As far as the chip is concerned it may be, but getting burnt discs working should be pretty cut and dry with hbc and neogamma. How did you set up softmod??? Pimp my wii? modmii? or manually?

Yes, i'm pretty sure neogamma is configured right. I've used many times in my own older wii (In my current wii setting, I use external hdd), so I sure know what I'm doing. The wii is a White one, with the moddable disc drive. Some weeks ago, burned discs were working trough disc channel just fine: What made they stop working, I guess, is that my friend said that he updated the wii, but he couldnt say if it was from 4.2 to 4.3, or from other to 4.3 (Is now in 4.3u). I'm used modmii many times, and never used pimp my wii.

Now, a thing that I saw yesterday in a site is that Wiikeyfusion (a very popular modchip among the modguys here in Brasil) support DVD+R and DVD-R. In my old wii, I've always used DVD-R, and all the burned discs that my friend have is dvd-r. We will buy some DVD+R to burn, maybe we get different results.

Why you say that the chip may have to be removed? He reallys sucks like that? I mean, i've always tought that he never would harm the wii or stop any other homebrew to work properly...

Thanks

 

[Cyan]

DVD+R are not recommended. (they need to be burned by editing the booktype to -R anyway, so the console think they are -R, not +R)
you should keep DVD-R

maybe you didn't have a wiikey, but cios/darkcorp.
you said neogamma doesn't work, but other loader does. do you mean other loader in disc mode or usb mode?
Did you try USBLoaderGX + disc mode + DVD-R?

To me it looks like you had cioscorp.
if you really had a wiikey, maybe the chipset moved or unsoldered, because it should still play burnded disc.

You could try to launch the Wiikey setup disc and see if it detects the chipset.
OR you could open the console and see if a chipset is wired or clipped to the drive.

you don't need to remove the chipset to use homebrew and other hacks.
the ONLY issue I got with wiikey 1 is Wiigator cMIOS gamecube launcher not working with multi-ISO discs (can't swap discs with Z button).
Everything else works.
The second issue you can get, is devolution detecting your chipset if you don't have wiikey v1

 

[almmiron]

DVD+R are not recommended. (they need to be burned by editing the booktype to -R anyway, so the console think they are -R, not +R)
you should keep DVD-R

maybe you didn't have a wiikey, but cios/darkcorp.
you said neogamma doesn't work, but other loader does. do you mean other loader in disc mode or usb mode?
Did you try USBLoaderGX + disc mode + DVD-R?

To me it looks like you had cioscorp.
if you really had a wiikey, maybe the chipset moved or unsoldered, because it should still play burnded disc.

You could try to launch the Wiikey setup disc and see if it detects the chipset.
OR you could open the console and see if a chipset is wired or clipped to the drive.

you don't need to remove the chipset to use homebrew and other hacks.
the ONLY issue I got with wiikey 1 is Wiigator cMIOS gamecube launcher not working with multi-ISO discs (can't swap discs with Z button).
Everything else works.
The second issue you can get, is devolution detecting your chipset if you don't have wiikey v1

I'm really think that there is a chip installed (Warranty Stickers above some screws on the wii, but some guy may have opened for another reason, since is a old wii, other problems may have ocurred in the past). Do you know if there is a darkcorp cios by analysing a syscheck? If yes, and if you please...There is it:

Spoiler

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2008.07.14
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 82776440
Boot2 v4
Found 116 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535

Report generated on 2015/11/17.

When I said that I had tested usbloaderGX, I wanted to say that I tested some games wbfs made from some of the burned discs, with wiibackup manager, trough external HDD. They worked just fine, so the games are good.

I've just tested usbloaderGX (the one in you signature rev 1256) in disc mode like you said , and the disc error persists.

I am testing fire emblem so much, cause, some years ago, in my older wii, I beat the game using the very disc I'm testing. I remember using neogamma r9b56 like it was yesterday (actually it was 2011~12). That wii was a softmodded only one.

I have one question on USBloaderGX: Can (some version of it that uses AHBPROT, maybe) it be initalized before system menu? I've got succes in some apps trough priiloader, but not usbloaderGX.

 

[Cyan]

all your IOS are latest official version, except the "system menu" IOS which are v60 copied in all system slots.
This is modmii doing, and following modmii guide replaces ALL previous IOS so if cioscorp were installed it's now not possible to know.

to launch USBLoaderGX before system menu, you need to load it "before" the system menu, which means before priiloader using boot2.
If you use priiloader (which is the system menu titleID), priiloader will not grant AHB access to the installed dol.

To get AHB access for USBLoaderGX, you need either :
- update priiloader to 0.8 beta (enable beta update in the settings), but I don't recommend this.
or
- Launch the loader from the forwarder. This is the best method.

Priiloader auto booting:
1. install the forwarder channel.
2. in priiloader install the "forwarder.dol" located in the "all in one package/wad/forwarder" folder, NOT the USBLoader's boot.dol
(PS: I still don't understand how this can help getting AHB access, but everybody reported this method as working fine, so it's good enough)

boot2 auto booting (if you have bootmii @boot2 vulnerability, which you should if your wii is old):
1. install the forwarder channel
2. replace bootmii files on your sd/bootmii/ folder with this one

 

[almmiron]

Thank you Cyan.

I've opened the wii, and took off (easily) this chip:
Image 1

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6svSO6j4JsFYmwxWVpCV1ZfeGM/view?usp=sharing

Image 2

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6svSO6j4JsFbWxvMjc0cDNqUm8/view?usp=sharing

Image 3

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6svSO6j4JsFMHV2QXI2QzFuRkU/view?usp=sharing

The burned discs (all DVD-R) still dont works on the backup loaders: nintendont(gc discs), usbloaderGX in disc mode, disc channel (obviously) or neogamma r9b56...I wonder what could be wrong. I Just tested some original retail discs, and them worked fine under these backup loaders, and trough disc channel as well.

After took off the chip, I did a syschek, if means anything:

Spoiler

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2008.07.14
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 82776440
Boot2 v4
Found 117 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535

Report generated on 2015/12/17.

 

[Cyan]

thanks for opening it.
That was the better and faster method to see if there were a chipset.


I don't know which chipset it is, but it's not a wiikey.
I couldn't find it on any resellers.

It looks like a sunkey lite chip without all the chips on it.
maybe a different version, or a fake/clone.

Maybe someone else know this chip?
finding which feature it has could help to see if there's a burned disc compatibility, or if there's maybe a firmware patcher to restore or change its behavior.

 

[almmiron]

Ok. Its written "Lattice" on the chip. I dont know if is the brand, because, at least on wikipedia list of wii modchips, I couldnt find information. I'll deepen research about it. Thanks again .