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Discussion in 'PS4 - Games & Content' started by Prans, Mar 7, 2017.
Wanna play action based RPGs? Take one of the thousand out there...
Personally I'm gonna be passing on this just like I passed on the last 5 Final Fantasies. They don't feel like Final Fantasy to me anymore. The tone has gone all dark and has no self awareness to it, the art styles have gone all soulless like the majority of the AAA industry and honestly the direction that SE is taking their series just isn't for me. I grew up on turn based battles and feel like in a lot of cases they open up many more options for strategy than an action based system would. Sure there's good action games but when I think FF I think turn based combat. So I'll be sticking with replaying the old games and picking up anything that comes out that picks up the look/feel/tone of those early games (Bravely Default/Second, Legend of Legacy, Dragon Fantasy, etc.). I'm glad there's people excited for the remake but I'm personally not a fan of what they're trying to do with it.
To be fair.. the game was ruined the day it came out.
I'll take FF7 which is already being made, thank you very much.
I'm so happy their getting rid of the shitty turn based system
Agreed. It's like playing Chess. SE should actually do a re-do of classic chess but with a action system.
Something tells me they're gonna make it into ten parts to milk it good.
10 parts over 3 Blu Ray discs per part.
It'll be like a what if scenario for the original game being released on N64
I was being facetious, but I'm afraid of them breaking it up too much.
To play the devil's advocate, we don't know the scale at which they're making the remake. We've already seen the streets of Midgar in the gameplay trailer, which are full-scale and can't be traversed in 2 seconds like in the original. If they include every area of the original into the remake (and they better) that would translate to a huge undertaking.
I was going to buy a ps4 just fir this game. Now, buying a switch instead. Screw the decision to make this amazing game action based.
Considering there's no Switch-exclusive turn-based games out there, you might as well still get the PS4 for Persona 5 and FFVII:R when your anger dies down.
In fairness if you wanted to get a system just for turn based jrpgs I would hold off on the switch for a couple of years and pick up a 3ds for now if you don't already have one. There's quite a few really solid turn based games on it in all kinds of different sub genres. Give the switch some time to build a bit of a library of games first.
It's not because of the turn based games at all. It's because I didn't care about any other game for the PS4 other than the FFVII remake. But now that they have made the mistake of not making it turn based, I have no desire to spend money on it. So I will spend it on something else I know I will enjoy. The Switch has Breath of the Wild and I am Setsuna and I love both of these games. Plus it will have Mario Odyssey and plenty of other games I know I will enjoy.
Though it is not a trivial decision, and ignoring the ATB stuff I mentioned earlier, don't we have to wait to see it in action at least before calling mistake?
Obviously, this is my opinion. I cannot stand the fact that Square Enix switched to this stupid action based system. Turned based is the only way to go for me.
You fanboys are fucking annoying, there's already an enhanced port on the PS4 with the time based system, if you like it so much then buy that and quit complaining. Action based is far more fun then the stupid turn based system and that retarded time limit
Not gonna lie that action based chess game sounds pretty fun
Chess boxing is a thing.
Also time based chess is a thing. It is called blitz chess, fast chess and a few others with slightly different rules.
Also it apparently never made it stateside owing to some trademark thing but have a look at battle vs chess if you did want a computer game with all sorts of rule tweaks and variations.
Turn based vs action is a fundamental change, however it is not like FF7 was ever a game that benefited from it (do normal attack, heal, use magic enemy is weak against, maybe steal, maybe do summon if you are going to town and can spare the mana. If you are thinking 10 moves ahead then that is about 7 or 8 too many for a boss battle. If there is a pause button within battle then I guess I feel sorry if you are disabled and need the menu time, otherwise peh I will wait to see how it plays out. It could still be bad but it is something I will have to wait and see about.
Yeah... people seem to forget the fact that the majority of FFVII could be easily done with just spamming attack, though the same could be said for many Final Fantasy RPG games. And, to be frank, FFVII isn't even a true turn-based game. I imagine most people used ATB at which point it's no different from any other game that requires you to have some kind of cooldown between attacks (ATB "turns"). If you went to the bathroom during a fight and forgot to pause then the enemy would have attacked you several times without you doing anything, which doesn't sound very turn-based to me (unless we're talking about Digimon Cyber Sleuth on Hard in which case it's the exact same thing).
On a somewhat related note if people find the idea of mixing up battle styles to be intriguing then I should say go have a look at a game called Eternal Sonata. The PS3 version is held to be superior but the 360 plays just fine.
You unlock more and more real time elements as the game goes on (though you can always select what you like). It changes how battles play out quite a bit -- it is area based, and enemies get bonuses or negatives in the arena for being in places so when you change from having the ability to decide the perfect route and perfect attack to having to take what you can and then make the timing on the attack it gets interesting.