FAQ: What CFW is best for me?

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May 27, 2016
  1. Crystal the Glaceon
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    Today I am going to ramble at you about CFW's, why? Because there needs to be a thread addressing all concerns about CFW's and comparing/contrasting them, thus allowing you to determine which CFW will suit your 3DS gaming needs!

    First, let's start out by determining what you are running and your options.


    Active projects

    Luma3DS

    Corbenik

    ReiNAND

    Yet another rxTools?

    Stable

    CakesFW

    Dormant

    Inactive

    Old RxTools

    Puma33DS CFW

    SaltFW

    Additional Information!


    What CFW should I run?

    But what if I still don't know what CFW I should run?

    Why shouldn't you use other Entrypoints?

    Why you should stop using MenuHAX!

    But is it safe to change my CFW?

    FAQ

    Being researched!

    Credits!




    Active!

    These CFWs are highly active, either through regular updates or regular nightly updates. They tend to be be a bit more cutting-edge, but still very stable.





    Luma3DS


    Now why should you use Luma3DS?






    Corbenik


    Now why should you use Corbenik?



    ReiNand

    Why you might want to use ReiNAND?





    Yet another RxTools?


    Why should you use Yet another rxTools?



    Stable!

    These CFW's aren't as active as the Active CFWs listed on this CFW, but they are highly stable and usable. They tend to go long periods of time without much activity, but that doesn't mean the projects are dead, they just don't have any major bugs to fix. Major updates are added when they are needed for these CFW's, but they are the best CFW's for people who don't want overly frequent updates.





    CakesFW


    Now why should you use CakesFW?


    Dormant
    These are projects that the devs haven't officially declared dead and or the devs still show some activity. They still aren't quite dead enough to call "Inactive."
    Reserved spot






    Inactive

    These CFWs though usable no longer have active dev support. This meaning they will no longer get updates, bug fixes, features added, etc. They can be used, but it's not recommended.





    11.3+ added a new NATIVE_FIRM requirement to the homemenu. This has officially locked RXTools out from the latest OFW.

    Old RXtools


    Why shouldn't you use Old RXTools?






    Puma33DS CFW


    Now why shouldn't you use Puma33DS CFW?





    SaltFW


    Now why shouldn't you use SaltFW?



    What CFW should I run?


    Tell me!




    But what if I still don't know what CFW I should run?


    Yeah, now what?



    Why you should stop using MenuHAX!
    Stop using MenuHAX




    Why shouldn't you use other Entrypoints?


    Why only A9LH/MenuHax?




    But is it safe to change my CFW?

    I won't lose my games/saves/dlc will I?



    FAQ!


    FAQ!




    Being researched!


    Being researched




    Credits!


     
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    Nice thread for the noobies and regs :)
     
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    Just use Luma
     
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    Why? Luma is great, but I personally love the Arch style of CakesFW.
    There's options out there and I wanted to show people a quick and easy thread to those options. Maybe Luma3DS works great for you, but maybe ReiNAND works better for someone else. This thread is not about telling you which one you should use, but to better understand and choose for yourself.
     
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    Because it has everything for people starting to get into the scene, which are mostly the people who even ask this themselves
     
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    OK, but it's still not the onlyCFW.
    Personally I would argue that Newbies should use SaltFW as it has all the patches and pretty much nothing more. But again, this thread is made for people to decide what CFW they want to use, instead of making more threads asking what CFW they should use.
     
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    Typo under what cfw should I use tell me spoiler you put want instead of what i
     
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    Thanks ^_^ This was actually accidentally posted early, so I am currently fixing things.
     
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    #CakesMasterRace, but seriously, if I have Cakes and ReiNand that are both on my 10.7 EmuNand, and I have a whole bunch of pirated CIA's on MenuHax, can I move to A9LH? And can I still use homebrew?
     
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    You can run both ReiNAND and CakesFW on the same NAND, last part of the thread titled, "But what if I still don't know what CFW I should run?" addresses that concern.
    A9LH install questions really isn't the point of this thread, but I will answer the question anyways
    You can install A9LH and use CakesFW. You can both use your emuNAND or switch your emuNAND with your sysNAND
    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki
     
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    I'd argue against that as you can't use it before using another CFW to get A9LH running already. Luma is a better alternative as it does a lot of patches itself as well, more frequent updates and since it has an easier solution to running payloads before boot. As you need a cfw before it most people will have become more familiar with it.
     
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    Great! But that doesn't mean it's the CFW for everyone. What if I want complete control over my CFW's patches? What if I don't like the set up of Luma3DS? There's more than just Luma3DS and that's why I made this thread. I am not undermining Luma3DS, Luma earned it's place as one of the most used CFW, but it's still not the only CFW out there.
    I made this thread for people to see the options, see what they have to offer, and decide what CFW works best for them and best for their needs.
     
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    Of course this thread will be changing the more updates are pumped out. As well, I am open to suggestions to making this thread better!
     
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    Nice rundown, though calling Luma3DS 'extremely stable' is weird. I use it, I love how active it is, but the price paid for that is stability - it's had a couple changes to folder name in its history, lots of changes to the chainloader (payload file name changes, changes to what keys are valid to use), changes to how config is done (was files used as flags, became an onscreen menu), subtle changes that broke older chainloaded payload screeninit, etc.

    I love Luma3DS because it isn't worried about stability of how it works, how you configure, etc. that's what let it improve so much so quickly I think.
     
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    The actual stable builds tend to be extremely stable. If anything, Luma3DS is like Ubuntu to ReiNAND's Debian. It's extremely stable because you know it won't break, but it still frequently changes, much like Ubuntu. Where ReiNAND is even more stable, but only updates when it needs to and does very little extreme changes, basically like Debian Stable.
    Nonetheless, Luma3DS is still an extremely stable CFW, you can always expect that the major releases are tested heavily enough to determine that they are safe for the public.
     
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    Oh, you use stability as a synonym for not buggy -- I'd largely agree on that, then.

    I think of stability as a broader thing, also including the concepts of being able to update without losing previous capabilities & having valid configuration for an older version working for a new one, etc. Luma3DS hasn't historically been stable in that regard (though I bet it's almost there, just a lot of tumult in its infancy - I've used it since it was AuReiNand V3.4). Again, I'm glad that wasn't worried about, would have slowed down dev (especially testing) and opened up more possibilities for bugs.

    Luma3DS is what I use, I can handle all the little changes that have come up - fun to watch that CFW grow, and fun to tinker with :)
     
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    Basically, yes. It's not buggy and there's almost never issues in the stable build.
    And that's why I call it "Ubuntu," and ReiNAND is "Debian Stable."
    They really mirror those distros quite nicely.
     
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    Nice one! This will hopefully help with all the noob threads! ;p
     
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    Anyone know which CFW boots fastest with A9LH?

    EDIT:

    I timed the A9LH coldboots myself from pressing the power button to when the home menu appeared. Don't take these times too seriously because the timing involved me reacting to the home menu appearing which may not have been exactly consistent throughout. Here are the average times of 3 on my o3ds SysNand 11.0:

    Luma3ds v5.5-ae1033d9:
    Average boot time: 7.68.6666 Seconds

    ReiNand CFW v4.1:
    Average boot time: 11.81.6666 Seconds

    CakesFW Nightly v175:
    Average boot time: 7.62 Seconds

    SaltFW v2.0b LTS:
    Average boot time: 7.77.66666 Seconds
     
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