Each and Every Villain of Pokemon is coming to Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon

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  1. WiiUBricker

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    Alternate reality? I didn’t play Sun and Moon so maybe that explains it.
     
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    Except, RBY GSC RSE LGFR DPPT BW/BW2 are all from a different universe(A). A universe where Mega Evolution and Z-moves does not exist
    However, X/Y, ORAS, SM, are all from a different universe(B). A universe where Mega Evolution and Z-moves exist.

    Additionally, USUM is also from a different universe(C). Different from the 2 that I've mentioned.
    Although, we can say that in Universe C:
    - Universe B Giovanni, Cyrus, and Lysandre are present.
    - Universe A Maxie and Archie are present
    - Universe B Lusamine would not appear of course, but Universe C Lusamine.

    We still have no info about Ghetsis so we can assume that it's Universe A Ghetsis, but unless proven or disproven. It's just a theory. A GAME THEORY. lmao
     
  3. Garblant

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    Sun and moon don't take place in an alternate reality, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon do.

    So many of the things in Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon may not be cannon to the rest of the timeline.
     
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    Those are mythical pokemons. (Exclusive to events)

    Deoxys is kinda an oddball, used to be a mythical but was a legendary in ORAS.
     
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    If it is, oh god.

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    Deoxys is still mythical but got an exception on ORAS.
     
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    I heard the music for RR Battle kind of reminds me of Dark Violet Giovanni battle GF does take notes i guess
     
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    Using RSE's Maxie and Archie is definitely what piques my interests because that would mean they had to make the models for them instead of recycling ORAS'. Surely the choice was not made just because.
     
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    Allllll of them?

    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    I wasn't very interested in playing US and UM since I assumed it was just going to be a reskin with a few new moves/palette swaps for a couple Pokemon. From seeing the video I might just give it a shot if it really does change things up a bit.
     
  9. KanterZ
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    Because there's the multiverse now.

    This is my theory for why is A appearing is USUM, though. (considering all the facts present)

     
  10. LiveLatios

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    why
    national dex better be back, otherwise the game is still dead to me.
     
  11. KanterZ
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    Allllllllll of them.

    All of the previous villainous team leaders + Skull + Aether Foundation so all of them.
     
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    Yeah, but the screenshot implies he's asking for Colosseum and XD villains. I doubt those will be making a return though, those games are more like just-barely spinoffs.
     
  13. KanterZ
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    Of course. This is canon, not spin-off so those are probably not appearing.

    They could, thanks to the multiverse, appear in cameo. Those spinoffs can now be considered canon.
     
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    I know this is an alternate universe and all but I really like how Giovanni looks in HG, SS and B&W compared to here. It's also interesting to note the event in HG and SS never happened.
     
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    Never happened?
     
  16. chrisrlink

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    yeah Giovanni got his ass kicked by red and ran to johto like a little bitch he must mean the Ethan/Lyra battle is not cannon
     
  17. Garblant

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    That might have only happened in the original universe (A). Giovanni that's in USUM seems to have originated from this universe (C).
     
  18. chrisrlink

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    maybe he killed red? and Ghetsis killed Nate/Rosa that would be very cool plot twist or maybe Red joined TR at Nugget bridge who knows
     
  19. KanterZ
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    I'd like to re-theorize my theory.

    Here's the final one.

    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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    Fuck! That was the thing that made me the most excited. I've been playing Battle Factory in HeartGold for about a week, enjoying that. Rentals, no need to breed, just you and strategy and luck. That caveat is so unappealing, fucking Festival Plaza. It's such a downgrade from PSS in Gen 6. I'll bite the bullet with that. Very hyped about the game following the trailer.