Do's and don'ts on 11.3 update!!!

V0ltr0n · Mar 13, 2017

MarioMasta64 said:
first: the only purpose of this update is to block updates (basically all updates past 9.6 are like how the wii from 4.1 9.6/4.1 being the last feature adding update) while 11.3 is basically the 4.3 wii update where it was made to block exploits but ended up messing up features of the system (some games dont run as well for example the most common being oot3d) 11.2 is basically 9.2 plus the 9.6 amiibo update and (bug fixes aka exploit patches but not as major). whaddya think? its always your system and your choice

Yes, it's always personal choice. But I asked for a logical reason not to update. Your almost incoherent reply referencing "this firm compared to that firm and the wii blah blah..." pretty much proves my point since you gave no reason not to update. There is no good reason to not update if u have cfw. The thing about updates consisting of exploit patches and adding no real content isn't a new thing. Sony was notorious for it with the psp. There will always be those few ppl that don't want to update even though they have no concrete reasoning. It is generally accepted that if you can update and keep your cfw functionality, you should do so. There is not one single downside to updating at this point.

MarioMasta64 · Mar 13, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
Yes, it's always personal choice. But I asked for a logical reason not to update. Your almost incoherent reply referencing "this firm compared to that firm and the wii blah blah..." pretty much proves my point since you gave no reason not to update. There is no good reason to not update if u have cfw. The thing about updates consisting of exploit patches and adding no real content isn't a new thing. Sony was notorious for it with the psp. There will always be those few ppl that don't want to update even though they have no concrete reasoning. It is generally accepted that if you can update and keep you cfw functionality, you should do so. There is not one single downside to updating at this point.

> if you have cfw
>11.3 is basically the 4.3 wii update where it was made to block exploits but ended up messing up features of the system (some games dont run as well for example the most common being oot3d)
are these not valid reasons?

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MarioMasta64 said:
> if you have cfw
>11.3 is basically the 4.3 wii update where it was made to block exploits but ended up messing up features of the system (some games dont run as well for example the most common being oot3d)
are these not valid reasons?

they were for me

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V0ltr0n said:
Yes, it's always personal choice. But I asked for a logical reason not to update. Your almost incoherent reply referencing "this firm compared to that firm and the wii blah blah..." pretty much proves my point since you gave no reason not to update. There is no good reason to not update if u have cfw. The thing about updates consisting of exploit patches and adding no real content isn't a new thing. Sony was notorious for it with the psp. There will always be those few ppl that don't want to update even though they have no concrete reasoning. It is generally accepted that if you can update and keep your cfw functionality, you should do so. There is not one single downside to updating at this point.

and again. i said "personal opinion" nobody has to take what i say.

V0ltr0n · Mar 13, 2017

Not really. "Some games?" Its only one afaik. As you mentioned, oot3d. And its just in the sheikah stone videos. The person that found that and made it an issue is REALLY reaching.

Also, i acknowledged that personal choice is a thing.

MarioMasta64 · Mar 13, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
Not really. "Some games?" Its only one afaik. As you mentioned, oot3d. And its just in the sheikah stone videos. The person that found that and made it an issue is REALLY reaching.

any issue is an issue plus alot of things dev wise were blocked off too like changing firmware and such so. yea. again. Personal Opinion. someone could agree with me someone could disagree with me. im not forcing you to do anything. im offering my suggestion. i dont care if you take it or not. its your choice.

V0ltr0n · Mar 13, 2017

My only problem with that is when people suggest to others that they shouldn't update when it's perfectly safe to do so and has no issues that would affect 99.9% of the end users.

MarioMasta64 · Mar 13, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
My only problem with that is when people suggest to others that they shouldn't update when it's perfectly safe to do so and has no issues that would affect 99.9% of the end users.

my problem is people who are closed minded to others opinions that are not directed at others and are clearly stated as opinions not facts or theories. :/ you having fun cluttering the thread?

V0ltr0n · Mar 13, 2017

Your post was in fact directed at others as your post was stated as "do's and don'ts"

Not like your initial suggestion would cause confusion to someone wondering if they can update. /s
Suggesting downgrading back to 11.2 and going through the restoration process isn't a very helpful suggestion seeing as updating to 11.3 is fine.
You are correct in stating that this is kinda derailing the thread though. So i guess we'll just leave it be.

MarioMasta64 · Mar 13, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
Your post was in fact directed at others as your lost was stated as "do's and don'ts"

Not like your initial suggestion would cause confusion to someone wondering if they can update. /s
Suggesting downgrading back to 11.2 and going through the restoration process isn't a very helpful suggestion seeing as updating to 11.3 is fine.
You are correct in stating that this is kinda derailing the thread though. So i guess we'll just leave it be.

i said dos and donts as a joke in the name of the thread and stated that it was my personal opinion. and indeed.

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V0ltr0n said:
Your post was in fact directed at others as your lost was stated as "do's and don'ts"

Not like your initial suggestion would cause confusion to someone wondering if they can update. /s
Suggesting downgrading back to 11.2 and going through the restoration process isn't a very helpful suggestion seeing as updating to 11.3 is fine.
You are correct in stating that this is kinda derailing the thread though. So i guess we'll just leave it be.

sorry if i mislead you somehow?

V0ltr0n · Mar 13, 2017

Nah, we good.

TankedThomas · Mar 14, 2017

Can we please stop fear mongering over hourly Luma? It's better compatibility for 11.3, and it's super-simple to roll back to an older version if something goes wrong. The current hourly is fine, so just install the stable Luma then update to the hourly, then leave it alone. If anything goes wrong, you literally just delete the new file and rename the old one.

Also, if you're doing a NAND backup (which you should, and you should probably make a habit of doing it once every month or three, at the very least), PLEASE make a copy on your computer as well as elsewhere (cloud storage, etc.) because backups are a good thing. If your SD card or computer hard drive failed and you only had one copy, you could end up with a 3DS. It's not likely, but the file is only 1GB or so (depending on the type of NAND backup you do - miniNAND dump is fine, FYI), so it's worth making multiple copies just in case.
Don't just keep the single copy, and certainly don't move it from your SD card then leave the only copy on your computer. It's slower, but it's better to copy it from the SD card so you're not being destructive with the NAND backup file (or move it, then make another NAND backup before modifying your 3DS further).

DrasticGray · Mar 14, 2017

MarioMasta64 said:
> if you have cfw
>11.3 is basically the 4.3 wii update where it was made to block exploits but ended up messing up features of the system (some games dont run as well for example the most common being oot3d)
are these not valid reasons?

stop trying to greentext fam

MarioMasta64 · Mar 14, 2017

DrasticGray said:
stop trying to greentext fam

greentext? whats that?

DrasticGray · Mar 14, 2017

MarioMasta64 said:
greentext? whats that?

nevermind

V0ltr0n · Mar 14, 2017

Apparently a 4chan thing. Ive been actually wondering why ppl keep using > so much recently. So, here ya go:

https://www.quora.com/What-is-greentexting

MarioMasta64 · Mar 14, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
Apparently a 4chan thing. Ive been actually wondering why ppl keep using > so much recently. So, here ya go:

https://www.quora.com/What-is-greentexting

oh fancy @~@ am i doing it?
>a 4chan thing

V0ltr0n · Mar 14, 2017

MarioMasta64 said:
greentext? whats that?

MarioMasta64 said:
oh fancy @~@ am i doing it?
>a 4chan thing

>like a boss.

3Bies · Mar 14, 2017

I used freeshop to download OOT3ds and it is perfect!!! no lagging whatsoever!!! Im already halfway through the shadow temple and am close to beating gandarof... the only games I had problems with is pokemon sun and moon which is when there are 2v2 pokemon battles and 1v2, it laggs for less than 3 seconds and works fine once again... Plus im running an old 3ds.... Anyways I prefer not seeing my software update notice ;D someone needs to make a sofware update notice patch to stop that stupid notice... Like ios jailbreak etc. Thanks for your reply anyways

This problem can be handled by any 3ds if it has cfw+a9lh including a good storage sd card

Updates are meant to stop hacks, and add more features/functions but it can also be what drives the community on. There are thousands who seriously want cfw and the only thing they can do is wait for a 11.3 exploit. There are usually slip ups like how soundhax still somehow works in 11.3..... Still i sure lucky to get lumas on my 3ds on 11.2.........

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MarioMasta64 said:
any issue is an issue plus alot of things dev wise were blocked off too like changing firmware and such so. yea. again. Personal Opinion. someone could agree with me someone could disagree with me. im not forcing you to do anything. im offering my suggestion. i dont care if you take it or not. its your choice.

just get backup when you are on 11.2 bam downgrade ;D

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V0ltr0n said:
My only problem with that is when people suggest to others that they shouldn't update when it's perfectly safe to do so and has no issues that would affect 99.9% of the end users.

Im pretty sure you can still kill your 3ds while updating if someone turned it off ;D bad end....

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TCJJ said:
Can we please stop fear mongering over hourly Luma? It's better compatibility for 11.3, and it's super-simple to roll back to an older version if something goes wrong. The current hourly is fine, so just install the stable Luma then update to the hourly, then leave it alone. If anything goes wrong, you literally just delete the new file and rename the old one.

Also, if you're doing a NAND backup (which you should, and you should probably make a habit of doing it once every month or three, at the very least), PLEASE make a copy on your computer as well as elsewhere (cloud storage, etc.) because backups are a good thing. If your SD card or computer hard drive failed and you only had one copy, you could end up with a 3DS. It's not likely, but the file is only 1GB or so (depending on the type of NAND backup you do - miniNAND dump is fine, FYI), so it's worth making multiple copies just in case.
Don't just keep the single copy, and certainly don't move it from your SD card then leave the only copy on your computer. It's slower, but it's better to copy it from the SD card so you're not being destructive with the NAND backup file (or move it, then make another NAND backup before modifying your 3DS further).

I do NAND backup every week now since I nearly hard bricked my 3ds before ;D I saved it by using nand backup and replacing my Nintendo3ds folder to my backup so I get save files back.... Im lucky I didnt have to start again in orcarina of time ;D

TankedThomas · Mar 16, 2017

/v/tards pls go

3Bies said:
I used freeshop to download OOT3ds and it is perfect!!! no lagging whatsoever!!! Im already halfway through the shadow temple and am close to beating gandarof... the only games I had problems with is pokemon sun and moon which is when there are 2v2 pokemon battles and 1v2, it laggs for less than 3 seconds and works fine once again... Plus im running an old 3ds.... Anyways I prefer not seeing my software update notice ;D someone needs to make a sofware update notice patch to stop that stupid notice... Like ios jailbreak etc. Thanks for your reply anyways This problem can be handled by any 3ds if it has cfw+a9lh including a good storage sd card Updates are meant to stop hacks, and add more features/functions but it can also be what drives the community on. There are thousands who seriously want cfw and the only thing they can do is wait for a 11.3 exploit. There are usually slip ups like how soundhax still somehow works in 11.3..... Still i sure lucky to get lumas on my 3ds on 11.2.........

Sun and Moon don't run as well on the old 3DS models. They also run a slimmed-down version of the system menu to give the games more RAM; something that the New 3DS models do not have. That is more than likely why you get some lag (though to be fair, there is lag here and there on the New 3DS too).
Also, you might want to avoid advertising the fact that you're straight-up pirating games. That's a good way to either get banned or, worse, get arrested.
As for Soundhax: Nintendo could probably patch it, but good luck to them. I kinda doubt they'll bother at this point, but we'll see.

3Bies said:
Im pretty sure you can still kill your 3ds while updating if someone turned it off ;D bad end....

Potentially, but since you have to hold the power button down or have the battery run out in the process, you've got to be a special kind of moron to pull that off.

3Bies said:
I do NAND backup every week now since I nearly hard bricked my 3ds before ;D I saved it by using nand backup and replacing my Nintendo3ds folder to my backup so I get save files back.... Im lucky I didnt have to start again in orcarina of time ;D

You should use JKSM to backup your saves. It's far more convenient in the long run.

3Bies · Mar 17, 2017

TCJJ said:
/v/tards pls go

Sun and Moon don't run as well on the old 3DS models. They also run a slimmed-down version of the system menu to give the games more RAM; something that the New 3DS models do not have. That is more than likely why you get some lag (though to be fair, there is lag here and there on the New 3DS too).
Also, you might want to avoid advertising the fact that you're straight-up pirating games. That's a good way to either get banned or, worse, get arrested.
As for Soundhax: Nintendo could probably patch it, but good luck to them. I kinda doubt they'll bother at this point, but we'll see.

Potentially, but since you have to hold the power button down or have the battery run out in the process, you've got to be a special kind of moron to pull that off.

You should use JKSM to backup your saves. It's far more convenient in the long run.

Lol ;D btw sun and moon takes like 8 seconds to close

Thanks for advice

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