I know what he said. He's willing to take their stuff for free. Woo, what a stand-up guy making such a great stand for his beliefs.Read what he wrote again. He's making a value judgement about not wanting to support the devs.
I know what he said. He's willing to take their stuff for free. Woo, what a stand-up guy making such a great stand for his beliefs.Read what he wrote again. He's making a value judgement about not wanting to support the devs.
Another one salty af about that jon whatever his name is. Come on, grow up ffs.I was planning on buying it, but because they got all political and removed jontron I'm not anymore. I'll probably just pirate it on PC. I want to play the game but I'm not giving playtonic any of my money. They need to leave their political ideals and censorship out of their game making decisions. His personal views in no way impacted his professional skill.
This isn't about self sacrifice. I just don't want to financially support the dev to send a message. I'll gladly pay for it if they make changes to fix their screw up. As I literally just said I pay for basically every game I play at this point because im financially stable and want developers to get money when they deserve it. But frankly playtonic needs to be taught a lesson, especially with them banning people in stream forums for disagreeing with the jontron removal or demanding a refund. The jontron thing I can maybe overlook, but they are digging themselves a hole. I want to play the game because it's a good game, but at the same time the developers don't deserve the money. I honestly don't see what you aren't understanding here.If you're not willing to suffer not playing the game, then you are not showing any conviction; it's just common piracy. In the end, you are putting yourself ahead as you will be both playing the game, and not spending any money. That is self-serving rather than any meaningful self-sacrifice.
I could overlook the jontron thing tbh. Its the aftermath censorship like banning and deleting comments in steam that disagree with their actions or request a refund.Another one salty af about that jon whatever his name is. Come on, grow up ffs.
I'm glad they are actually doing that to those crybaby jon lovers.I could overlook the jontron thing tbh. Its the aftermath censorship like banning and deleting comments in steam that disagree with their actions or request a refund.
Are you really going anti-piracy on a website that started mainly for piracy, and is mostly used to hack consoles for piracy?I know what he said. He's willing to take their stuff for free. Woo, what a stand-up guy making such a great stand for his beliefs.
So you are saying anyone who disagrees with you should be censored?I'm glad they are actually doing that to those crybaby jon lovers.
I pretty much don't care about people opinions, but try to think this a little, it's pretty damn insane to cancel a preoder or shit on developers just because ONE-SINGLE-DAMN-VOICE was removed. How the fuck does that affects the game? Do they removed something important? No, it was just a voice making weird noices for a few seconds and that's all. It's insane bro, these people are going insane over a voice.So you are saying anyone who disagrees with you should be censored?
Its not the fact that the game was ruined. It will obviously be perfectly playable. Its the concept of removing someone from a project simply because of their personal political views, which had nothing to do with his professional career nor his performance in the game. That's the reason why.I pretty much don't care about people opinions, but try to think this a little, it's pretty damn insane to cancel a preoder or shit on developers just because ONE-SINGLE-DAMN-VOICE was removed. How the fuck does that affects the game? Do they removed sonething important? No, it was just a voice making weird noices for a few seconds and that's all. It's insane bro, these people are going insane for a voice.
They can do whatever they want with their game, it shouldnt affect you in any way if you wanted to play it in the first place, no matter if it was due to political shit and giggles.Its not the fact that the game was ruined. It will obviously be perfectly playable. Its the concept of removing someone from a project simply because of their personal political views, which had nothing to do with his professional career nor his performance in the game. That's the reason why.
Yes they have the freedom to do what they want, but if a large group of people disagree with that that group has the freedom to show they disagree with that choice and send a message to the devs. Just because you want to play the game does not mean you agree with the way the company is running.They can do whatever they want with their game, it shouldnt affect you in any way if you wanted to play it in the first place, no matter if it was due to political shit and giggles.
Of course it's not about self sacrifice for you. You think you are entitled to just have what you want without paying the price.This isn't about self sacrifice. I just don't want to financially support the dev to send a message. I'll gladly pay for it if they make changes to fix their screw up. As I literally just said I pay for basically every game I play at this point because im financially stable and want developers to get money when they deserve it. But frankly playtonic needs to be taught a lesson, especially with them banning people in stream forums for disagreeing with the jontron removal or demanding a refund. The jontron thing I can maybe overlook, but they are digging themselves a hole. I want to play the game because it's a good game, but at the same time the developers don't deserve the money. I honestly don't see what you aren't understanding here.
They don't have the freedom to steal because they disagree. They are free to boycott the game, however. Of course that's too inconvenient for some on here.Yes they have the freedom to do what they want, but if a large group of people disagree with that that group has the freedom to show they disagree with that choice and send a message to the devs. Just because you want to play the game does not mean you agree with the way the company is running.
I think you missed the multiple times I stated I pay for games, or the part where I said I haven't pirated the game. Frankly that was a joke to start as I haven't even touched my pc in a while and stopped my piracy a year ago when I got a job and could pay for all my games. That being said I was more making my point about the fact that I, like many others, aren't supporting what the devs have done up to this point and aren't willing to put money into the game. If I truly wanted to pirate the game I probably would have done it the day it came out.Of course it's not about self sacrifice for you. You think you are entitled to just have what you want without paying the price.
They don't have the freedom to steal because they disagree. They are free to boycott the game, however. Of course that's too inconvenient for some on here.
Whether or not you buy other games is immaterial. If you want to make a stand, then just don't play it. Those hippies who chain themselves to trees even though they know they're gonna get swabbed with mace are taking a stand for what they believe. Say what you will about their cause, but they show they are willing to make sacrifices for their beliefs. Sitting back and stealing what you want instead of paying for, on the other hand, it is not a noble act.I think you missed the multiple times I stated I pay for games, or the part where I said I haven't pirated the game. Frankly that was a joke to start as I haven't even touched my pc in a while and stopped my piracy a year ago when I got a job and could pay for all my games. That being said I was more making my point about the fact that I, like many others, aren't supporting what the devs have done up to this point and aren't willing to put money into the game. If I truly wanted to pirate the game I probably would have done it the day it came out.
Fair enough. My mistake.Also that second post you quoted isn't even about piracy, it's about people demanding refunds to send the devs a message ie people boycotting after backing the game on kickstarter
I never said I was gonna pirate it to prove my point and be noble. Just that I'm planning on not buying the game, and if I did play it i would be willing to pirate it rather than give the devs money. And I'm not pirating the game, it was more to just show my point.Whether or not you buy other games is immaterial. If you want to make a stand, then just don't play it. Those hippies who chain themselves to trees even though they know they're gonna get swabbed with mace are taking a stand for what they believe. Say what you will about their cause, but they show they are willing to make sacrifices for their beliefs. Sitting back and stealing what you want instead of paying for, on the other hand, it is not a noble act.
Fair enough. My mistake.
He's a popular YouTuber that did some voice acting for the game, but is now being removed from the game because of his political views.Ok seriously who the fuck is Jontron and why should anyone give two shits about him?
Because just as JonTron is entitled to his 'free speech', PlayTonic are entitled to their 'free speech' by exercising their free right to respond. In this case, their right to show JonTron the door.Its not the fact that the game was ruined. It will obviously be perfectly playable. Its the concept of removing someone from a project simply because of their personal political views, which had nothing to do with his professional career nor his performance in the game. That's the reason why.
They want to send a message to the devs by doing this. They aren't doing it because the game is ruined.