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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by BlackWizzard17, Dec 6, 2017.
Didn't the Beach Boys actually record some of the songs he wrote?
Thanks to the internet, smartphones, the human need to gossip and (perhaps) Photoshop-like programs becoming increasingly easy to use, the time won't be far off where you simply cannot be a celebrity anymore without being accused of something.
... That is, of course, assuming that this time isn't already upon us.
More on topic: i honestly don't care who made something, as long as it is good in and of itself. I've seen movies by Polanski, still love Kevin Spacey and Bart De Pauw (the later is a Belgian celebrity being accused by #metoo's), and music...erm... Sorry if this sounds cynic, but i thought musicians (especially rappers and hiphoppers) are pretty much obligated to do bad stuff.
Why someone would rape the best friend???
I care about the MUSIC not the as**** who made it
Of course, personality doesn't necessarily reflect into the product*, plus I'm in favor of strong separation of "performance rankings" of work and private life
* all rules of thumb have exceptions - see Lennart Poettering
My criteria for picking music is simply "do I like it?". If I do, I listen to it. Most of the times I know nothing about whoever made it.
Gee, I wonder what you think of systemd...
I listen to music because of the rhythm, and the mood that my mind is in. I don’t really care if the artists in question committed a sin.
wish she raped me.
yup, *puts on Michael Jackson discography*, all the time, also, I know it changed owner ship but I do still use freeshop which is a similar situation, just cause I think a person should burn in hell doesn't mean I won't enjoy what they made
umm yeah, because music is .......... music !
it' kinda the usp of most rap music, I doubt "I baked a nice Apple pie, and helped an old lady with her shoppin" would sell much to rap fans
A lot of people stopped listening to Jason Aldean after his whole cheating scandal ordeal. I could care less honestly, if we knew everything about everyone then we probably wouldn't buy anything made by anyone.
Well if they're accused but not yet found guilty of anything, they are still innocent until proven guilty. I don't have any issues listening to Michael Jackson, because he wasn't found guilty either of the times, and the more you look back and reflect on those cases, the more clear it is that he probably did not do what they claimed he did. Having said that, if they are definitively found guilty of something terrible, I probably could not continue to listen to them.
Wait, in the modern world someone cares about someone dipping their wick outside marriage?
Country music is a strange thing indeed.
Heh, yeah. Conservatives are weird.
lol i dont think many people believe in the innocent till proven guilty idea any more......unless ofc its someone they like or know personally, then all of a sudden they flip their shit and complain about people doing the exact same thing they done themselves a few days earlier
lets be honest if society degrades to the point where everyone is found guilty in the court of public opinion on the random claims of random people with no evidence at all then all celebrities and rich people are doomed......actually, all people are doomed full stop......late for work and don't want to get in trouble?....oh yeah, it was because of the PTSD from that time when she groped me 5 years ago in private and nobody can prove or disprove what I'm saying, so just fire her and give me paid leave to get over the ordeal.....oh and yeah to make sure you believe me she probably called me a racial slur too....so like, give her double the sentence please, k tnx bye
Im honestly sad for anyone who is the victim of sexual assault etc, but the position the media/masses are taking of judge jury and executioner is a very worrying one, its going to get to the point where people have to refuse to ever be alone with others unless they are recording their interaction, people will ofc say "urrrgh why would people lie?" but once you have a guaranteed way of ruining someone life and you don't even need any proof and society will just do your bidding and take them out, how long before people looking to further their career realize.....hmmmm i have a good chance of getting the leadership role here but bob wont be retiring for a good 10 years......i wonder if i can encourage one of the girls to file a sexual assault claim against him to speed things up, and then i can promise her lots of promotions etc, then we have the possibility of rivals paying people off to go ruin your company, what if bill gates could have just pay a few poor guys to accuse Steve jobs and cripple apple under hate mobs and boycotts for stuff that simply didn't happen
sure some bad people might get away with shady stuff, but the alternative is worse imho, with peoples lives just getting ruined on baseless claims, kinda like the sue,sue, SUE! mentality in America where people go out of their way to become the victim so they can profit from it, where everyone is looking for their opportunity to grab their slice of the pie.
Look, I get that. and a lot of these people it is clear as day that they were guilty from the onset. But as time marches on, I think it becomes clear that others were absolutely wrongly accused. Again, I point to Michael Jackson, who was certainly a weird ass dude, but ultimately I think its more clear than ever that those parents were just looking to make a quick buck. I've always thought that Kobe Bryant's accuser was full of it too, and nothing since the initial allegations til today has convinced me that he actually forced himself on that woman. Not everyone will operate under the innocent until proven guilty mentality, hell I wont for certain cases where I believe its obvious. But when the evidence is lacking, I really do try to apply the mentality.