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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by BlackWizzard17, Dec 6, 2017.
Who do you listen to?
A little bit of everything. Barring country
Thats exactly why I listen to R Kelly. His make me wanna get you pregnant song is comedy.
Yeah I'd keep listening to it.
>never pays attention to artists only listens to the music
It does depend on the offense.
For example, it's difficult to listen to Lostprophets anymore after Ian Watkins was found guilty of being a serial child and baby rapist. Even the rest of the band completely disowned Lostprophets and formed a new band. I saw Lostprophets live as a teenager so that whole thing was painful. And people who still vehemently listen to Gary Glitter? It says a lot about how seriously they take that situation.
It may seem like we shouldn't associate the music with what the people actually did, but the reality is that things don't exist in a vacuum where we can pick and choose what to recognise.
Yes. Chris Brown did some awful things, but I love his music.
It depends. This is actually one of the situations I use to justify piracy to a certain extent. Let's say Trent Reznor and David Grohl, two of my favorite musicians, were involved in some ridiculous drug running, money laundering, human trafficking scheme. I'd still like listening to their older music, and if they (somehow) kept making new music, if it were good I'd listen to it too, however I wouldn't support it. I'd probably listen to it on youtube or through blackbeard's website.
If their art was influenced by their actions and just turned into some weird shit advocating for it, I'd totally draw the line. But if their music doesn't change in spirit, who cares? They won't see my money but I'll damn sure hear their music.
Curious though, would it be the same if the offense was child abuse? There are lines than can be crossed, I think. I don't think too many people would care if Ian Watkins was found guilty of drug running.
All my favorite bands are made up of upstanding citizens.
I don't live vicariously through other people especially the people I don't even know in real life. Hell I couldn't tell you 90% of the band X's real names nor do I care to learn them. Do they produce music I like? Good then cool that is all I care about.
It depends sometimes for me. Take Trent Reznor for instance; there was a time that he was protesting against his record label and the music industry. He himself uploaded his albums to various public torrent trackers and I actually seemed to enjoy the music more, even that soft ambient post-rock stuff he was doing at the time. A year or two later I saw him in a commercial for PETA and that had the opposite effect.
Now sometimes an artist's criminal background or extreme political views can enhance the experience, even if I personally don't agree with their views. Accused or confirmed Nazi sympathizers like Boyd Rice or DouglasP of Death in June, Throbbing Gristle (the first official industrial music group and at least one member has since been exiled from the UK) started out doing violent and scatological performance art, of which I have no interest, but I feel it gives the music a sort of haunting atmosphere that it wouldn't otherwise have.
In most cases, yeah. I don't like most of xxxtentacion's music, it's too ...something... for me, but I listened to his album 17 since it was more my speed (and enjoyed some of it), despite the shit I've heard him do.
In some cases, depending on if the person is someone who I really look up to in a way -- be it because they are really good at playing an instrument which I'd like to learn how to play, because their songs really resonate with me, or something else -- I might stop listening to them for a short period of time just out of disappointment in said artist. I doubt I'd probably stop listening to them entirely because of that though, unless they did something really abhorrent.
how many still listen to michael jackson? the dude was an entertainer all the way. music surpasses so many barriers. religion, political views, race, language, and so much more all get swept to the side when your favorite song comes on. givethedrummersome!
I still listen to pieces by Wagner, even though he hated jews and wrote books about it
Still using freeshop so yes
I actively recommend people check out Charles Manson's music because I think it's genuinely good music, not because he's a famous figure head of a killer cult.
I tend not to follow gossip rags nor read anything about the artists/[insert equivalent term] making whatever I like, and if I do it almost inhabits a separate space in my mind (I try to consider arguments on their own merits).
As such quite possibly do, however for the most part it is not an "art from the artist" idea but a pure ignorance one. Should I forcibly be made aware and have not yet forgotten I guess it would not matter either, though it is not impossible I could find it distasteful either and could not fault someone for not partaking on that basis.
There are two related ideas
1) Hacked and leaked data, a recent one being that extra marital site that got hacked.
2) Science from arseholes. A lot of Nazi science was junk but not all. Do you do it or do you redo it? Not a question with a simple answer. When does that cut off? Judge many of the European colonials or would be colonials by the standards of today and it would not end well, good science came out of that though.
Edit. Forgot the accused part.
Innocent unless proven and all that.
this makes me remember that south park episode: