Do you believe Russia hacked the US election?

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Do you believe Russia hacked the US election?

  1. Yes, without the shadow of a doubt

  2. If the FBI and CIA and other agencies say it, we should take their word for it

  3. There's a slight chance it could be true, but no actual evidence has been made public yet

  4. It's all bullshit, the FBI and CIA are blatantly lying as ordered by the democrat government

  5. I don't know what to believe anymore

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Jan 2, 2017
  1. WiiUBricker

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    On a side note, if the US wouldn't have a stupid winner-takes-all voting system, there would have been less controversy. I mean, half of the americans voted for Trump, the other half for Hillary. By giving Trump everything and Hillary nothing, basically the system dumped a huge load of crap to half of it's citizen.
     
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    Agreed as the fact that the majority went both "not Trump" and "not Clinton" is personally something of concern.
     
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    Not to mention we have a system where the winner doesn't even need to win a plurality of votes, let alone a majority.

    I'd like to see a preferencial voting system, but that's not going to happen. I'd also like to see an end to the Electrical College, but that's not going to happen either.
     
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    Well theoretically if the whole popular vote pact project ever amounts to something than that would effectively have the potential to end the electoral college although the issue of course is that it still is pretty far off and that one would have to consider the constitutionality of it.
     
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    "Russia hacking the DNC" is the 2016 version of "Saddam has nuclear weapons!"
     
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    So now they Test fake warhead and make fake explosion over seas?? America is the problem they are everywhere around Russia and China and other country that why if you read my sig you clearly see that if you eliminate the problem you fix almost 90% of the problem
     
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    I kinda cannot help but laugh about the irony of the CIA investigating Russia "hacking" our election. Then again, if there is one thing the CIA knows about, and that's "hacking" an election. I'm pretty sure most of South America, Central America, Ukraine, Iraq, Iran, and such can attest to that.

    Just for the record, I shilled for Trump for free! The salt mining the left has given me at the end has paid me back and then some. :D I truly wish the election didn't end, it was just too entertaining.

    Also, let's forget this ever happened.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correct_the_Record
    God, they were so fucking annoying.


    HEY! Are you trying to imply that the good charitable people of the Saudi Arabian government were donating to the A+ graded Clinton Foundation for favors?!? The Saudis just happen to be very charitable, you might be wondering, "Why won't such a rich country just make their own charity?". WELL Hillary Clinton's foundation happens to be A+++, the good people of Haiti can attest to that!
     
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    Can agree that CTR members were a huge pain in the ass and honestly worse than Trump's online supporters in a way. Fought em when it came to Johnson's Wikipedia page but thankfully we beat em.
     
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    I said most, not all. North Korea is a closed off country with little import and export going on, their functioning warheads are mostly Soviet hand-me-downs. The ones they're parading around are mock-ups made of wood and leather, or so say the footage analysts - it was on the news a couple years back. For God's sake, we're talking about a country that has a fake city close to the border so that South Koreans think they're wealthy, are you kidding me? Their nuclear arsenal is decades out of date, it's a miracle that some of them do lift off. They keep trying to launch those things and they keep falling from the sky, do you expect me to treat their futile attempts at arming themselves seriously?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-paraded-North-Korea-fake-say-scientists.html
     
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    Why would they continue doing test then? , check again internet is not very reliable , because a spy on north korea would not last very long , we don't know if they are at latest technologies or use some oldies like you say , i think they are preparing because of Russia Army building up they will follow Russia and send army and warhead into USA even if it is some piece of junk or not fully functional those news are fake probably , what i have learned from the past 2 week is that America news and all sites with war news are 95% fake those peoples made up these story I don't know why but it seems that today human believe more in fake news and stick with that than going into full research mode and check if it is actually realistic and true! For the fact about the Fake city it is made so plane and peoples don't see that it is only a military nation!
     
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    ...you have heard of spy satellites, right? You can catch a photo of anything there from orbit, they'd have to live underground to hide, and they're not moles. They're doing the tests in a futile attempt to remain threatening, nobody gives a shit about them anymore. If the U.S. really wanted to, it could glass the shithole, but as you've probably noticed, they haven't done that.
     
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    Simply because it is allied with Russia ,China and India and other nation that i don't know they will simply wait for USA or Russia to do something before acting!
     
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    About as likely as Trump being indebted to them for the millions they've given him for the various hotels and businesses his family has there.

    Sentiments like this are what disappoint me the most.
    Politics aren't a game or some sports team rivalry. If you voted just to spite the other side (AKA Americans) and not because you felt it was in the best interest for the country as a whole and are actively cheering because people are genuinely concerned about their future then you are pretty messed up in the head.

    Then again I'm one to talk. I'll probably be feeling the schadenfreude when those who voted for Trump end up being unable to pay for their medical bills.
     
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    Trump's modeling agency used a whole lot of Russian women, especially in the early days. No doubt they worked for less than US models were asking. Since then I'm sure Trump has established plenty of financial ties to people and businesses in Russia.

    The why is pretty simple: Obama hasn't put up with Russia's shit, and Hillary didn't seem like she would've either. Trump, OTOH, was suspiciously friendly to Russia's interests, even where they would be actively detrimental to the US, throughout his entire campaign. Now that Trump has been elected and has appointed Putin's friend the Exxon Mobil CEO as Secretary of State, the conflicts of interest are in plain sight.
     
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    North Korea is a nation of isolationism and starvation, they're not in a position to assemble an arsenal competitive with a superpower like the U.S.A, just like Cuba isn't. You are correct though, it hasn't been toppled yet due to its proximity and/or association with China and possibly Russia. Not that we need to topple it - North Korea has nothing worth fighting for.
     
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    True that why USA use north korea as a presidential getaway!
     
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    Yep, it's 100% fair that California, New York and Washington would be able to decide the president elect without needing any input from any other state. Electoral college is there to make sure the voting is fair for all states.

    You do realize even EU uses a system similar to electoral college right? Otherwise Germany and France would've basically control all of EU.

    A way to actually fix the system would be to require identification to vote. It's absolutely ridiculous that this isn't required yet.
     
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    Democrats seem to think it suppresses voting. You need an ID to buy cigs/beer, to get a library card, to drive a car, to get electricity/gas/water turned on, to rent/buy a house, but not to vote? I think every other country but ours requires IDs to vote(correct me if I'm wrong). Voting IDs should be free to every US citizen 18 and over.
     
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    Your assertion that those three states would decide the election is just untrue. For example, a huge percent of the country's Republicans live in California, so it would take a lot more of the country to win than just those states. I can't think of a single good argument for allowing someone who got fewer votes nationwide to become that nation's president. It's absurd, and whatever way you look at the Electoral College, it's a form of gerrymandering.

    There also isn't an in-person voter fraud problem, so there's no reason to talk about ID.
     
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