Hacking CFW install permanently?

[Zhongtiao1]

Is it possible to install a CFW like Pasta or ReiNand so that you don't have to run ninjhax each time after you turn off and restart your 3DS?

 

[Xenon Hacks]

Is it possible to install a CFW like Pasta or ReiNand so that you don't have to run ninjhax each time after you turn off and restart your 3DS?

no

 

[Zhongtiao1]

Oh... okay then
Thanks for your reply

 

[Deleted member 333767]

If it does ever happen, it will most likely be a very very long time after 3DS life cycle is finished. You know, when you've retired your console to the cupboard and its collecting dust and the lithium ion battery has been sitting empty for so long it probably won't accept charge anymore. That long.

 

[tony_2018]

If it will ever happen it will be an actual CFW.

 

[Zhongtiao1]

Would it be easier to create a script that would immediately launch a CFW if cubic ninja is inserted when the 3DS boots up? Since 4.x-9.2 are already exploited, it should be possible, right? Since you aren't overwriting the Nintendo firmware, just supplying an alternate, and since it is on the SD card, it shouldn't compromise Nintendo firmware. We just need boot from SD card, which could be written in the script

 

[froggestspirit]

Would it be easier to create a script that would immediately launch a CFW if cubic ninja is inserted when the 3DS boots up? Since 4.x-9.2 are already exploited, it should be possible, right? Since you aren't overwriting the Nintendo firmware, just supplying an alternate, and since it is on the SD card, it shouldn't compromise Nintendo firmware. We just need boot from SD card, which could be written in the script

And how would one run that script?
Basically... anything that get's modified breaks the signature. If the signature is broken, it won't run.
There's 2 options as far as I see, and I'm not saying they're even possible...
1. An exploit is found in the boot process (I think there was something on 3dbrew a while back, but I can't seem to find it now) EDIT: Launcher.dat icons http://3dbrew.org/wiki/3DS_Userland_Flaws#System_applets
2. We somehow get the signature keys so that we can sign custom content, and the 3DS will think it's legit.

I'd say just boot using MSET, and leave it in sleep mode (charge when not using it)

 

[zoogie]

If it will ever happen it will be an actual CFW.

When native firm is loaded into arm9 memory and patched there (making it custom), is it no longer firmware to you? Never understood this reasoning.

Back to OP, unless we get the keys from Nintendo to sign our own firm and write it to nand -- never. This is likely the case for all eternity.

 

[EmceeKerser]

When native firm is loaded into arm9 memory and patched there (making it custom), is it no longer firmware to you? Never understood this reasoning.

Back to OP, unless we get the keys from Nintendo to sign our own firm and write it to nand -- never. This is likely the case for all eternity.

Its less a CFW and more a patch over the top of the stock firmware

I think we were spoiled with Wii homebrew and just how great it was

 

[zoogie]

Its less a CFW and more a patch over the top of the stock firmware

I think we were spoiled with Wii homebrew and just how great it was

headdesk.

Essentially the logic you just ... put out there is this: Its less a CFW and more of just a CFW.

 

[EmceeKerser]

headdesk.

Essentially the logic you just ... put out there is this: Its less a CFW and more of just a CFW.

Not really, there's not much custom about it. We havent changed anything besides overturning signature patches and stuff like that plopped on top of the stock. A CFW would be akin to linux FW for ps3

 

[Zhongtiao1]

And how would one run that script?
Basically... anything that get's modified breaks the signature. If the signature is broken, it won't run.
There's 2 options as far as I see, and I'm not saying they're even possible...
1. An exploit is found in the boot process (I think there was something on 3dbrew a while back, but I can't seem to find it now) EDIT: Launcher.dat icons http://3dbrew.org/wiki/3DS_Userland_Flaws#System_applets
2. We somehow get the signature keys so that we can sign custom content, and the 3DS will think it's legit.

I'd say just boot using MSET, and leave it in sleep mode (charge when not using it)

The kernel (if Nintendo integrated one) would be how you would run it. Add a line at the end that automatically boots up the CFW. You aren't messing with the boot process, and depending on where the signature is (if the kernel is present) you may be able to not break the signature.
(Sorry if I'm completely wrong, I'm just going off my knowledge of Linux/QNX here [emoji14])

 

[Relys]

There's home menu ROP, but that's as close as people have gotten thus far. Nobody has dumped the full bootrom yet (just unprotected part). You've got to hook code in boot process, or else overflow, UAF, etc. will require a manual trigger (such as ninjhax)

 

[froggestspirit]

The kernel (if Nintendo integrated one) would be how you would run it. Add a line at the end that automatically boots up the CFW. You aren't messing with the boot process, and depending on where the signature is (if the kernel is present) you may be able to not break the signature.
(Sorry if I'm completely wrong, I'm just going off my knowledge of Linux/QNX here [emoji14])

Basically... anything that get's modified breaks the signature. If the signature is broken, it won't run.

There's home menu ROP, but that's as close as people have gotten thus far.

Is that the same as the link I put to the launcher.dat stuff? or something else?

 

[xdarkmario]

If it does ever happen, it will most likely be a very very long time after 3DS life cycle is finished. You know, when you've retired your console to the cupboard and its collecting dust and the lithium ion battery has been sitting empty for so long it probably won't accept charge anymore. That long.

Damn lol