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could even be a fake , the ones that report bigger size then they have?
This sounds likely
ok so i closed wii backup manager and decided to manually put the wbfs on and it went on the usb but when i took the usb out the and put it back in the pc the wbfs file was gone
There is nothing wrong with Wii Backup Manager, it's what most people use and is generally what's recommended. I've never had any problems with it.The program sucks, I had this problem too, are you ripping from discs? Because when i was doing that alot of the time it was the discs fault for not reading properly. Also try copying them over one at a time, then closin ghte program and rinsing and repeating, that helped me