It is annoying that we would have to play for MP, but I mean, you could have expected that sooner or later. And like many others said, we get several free games yearly.
At 64 games a year the games you get with PS+ are basically ~80 cents a piece. And if it has a seven year lifespan that's ~448 games.
Also, PSN downloads are notoriously slow. Paid online reduces this problem.
Uh, maybe on the Ares server, or maybe during peak times, but I'm usually able to download off the Zeus server with 1MB/s at least.
ie: almost all the non-PS+ free content is on the ares server, paid stuff's always on the zeus server.
The only thing that annoys me is you and your cheapness
EVERYONE LISTEN UP, your not paying for ps4 online, your paying for PS PLUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which give you advantages on ps3, vita, and ps4!!!!!!!
My biggest issue is that I usually buy all the consoles. but I don't want to pay for two online services. So I'm forced to choose between Sony and MS instead of just getting both. Sony always had an ace up its sleeve in the sense that I'd have no problem buying their console JUST for the exclusives (and fighters with the better d-pad) all of which I could play online for free. (while playing all other cross-platform titles and MS exclusives on XBlive).
This new generation I'm forced to pick one or the other (not both), because an offline console is pointless and I'm not paying for two online services.
Doing without a huge selection of exclusives (whether that be MS or Sony I'm not decided) is frustrating. I don't blame Sony for their decision, but it is dissapointing I can't have both again this gen.
Twilight_Warrior, thanks for the personal attack.
Since you're not cheap I suppose you're going to pay for both online services. What? Oh you won't because you hate MS and love Sony? It sure is financially convenient you're a fanboy.
This new generation I'm forced to pick one or the other (not both), because an offline console is pointless and I'm not paying for two online services.
Doing without a huge selection of exclusives (whether that be MS or Sony I'm not decided) is frustrating. I don't blame Sony for their decision, but it is dissapointing I can't have both again this gen.
Twilight_Warrior, thanks for the personal attack.
Since you're not cheap I suppose you're going to pay for both online services. What? Oh you won't because you hate MS and love Sony? It sure is financially convenient you're a fanboy.
Just multiplayer accessibility. I don't know why so many people are freaking out about this. Nobody complained about Xbox Live where you HAD to have it for everything. PS+ actually makes it worth it.
Personally I love to play pvp but I do this almost exclusively on the PC. About the only games I used online features on PS3 were demon souls and dark souls.
I don't mind this pay model because I don't have to pay to play single player. My only concern is now that it is a paid service that Sony will offer incentives to developers for psn sign ups. I don't want silly, unnecessary online features popping up all over the place during a single player play through trying to get me to sign up.
I don't mind this pay model because I don't have to pay to play single player. My only concern is now that it is a paid service that Sony will offer incentives to developers for psn sign ups. I don't want silly, unnecessary online features popping up all over the place during a single player play through trying to get me to sign up.
Don't play online games if going online is to expensive for you.
Well that or spend less money on stupid shit and save up more.
Well that or spend less money on stupid shit and save up more.
why everyone against the "Free" idea?
if it goes to most people react here, it just FIVE FVCKING DOLLA YOU CHEPP BA$TAD, then if it's cheap why not making it FREE AT ALL?
unlike PC, consoles get their money not just from the machine, but also from the games.
it's weird that if those games which already had multiplayer mode only can be access when you buy another ONLINE pass
do you pay steam so you can play your games online? (assuming you also play on PC mostly online)
did you pay them so you can access it to buy a games?
Nope.
not a single cent, unless you buy something from them.
even more stupid when you divide it into each day/hour/minute.
yeah it just FIVE DOLLAR, how much if there's a million subscriber, it's 5 MILLION DOLLAR A MONTH.
it's clearly a clever way to make easy cash, even assume they didn't have a million subscriber money is money.
stop saying a cent like isn't worth anything.
if it goes to most people react here, it just FIVE FVCKING DOLLA YOU CHEPP BA$TAD, then if it's cheap why not making it FREE AT ALL?
unlike PC, consoles get their money not just from the machine, but also from the games.
it's weird that if those games which already had multiplayer mode only can be access when you buy another ONLINE pass
do you pay steam so you can play your games online? (assuming you also play on PC mostly online)
did you pay them so you can access it to buy a games?
Nope.
not a single cent, unless you buy something from them.
even more stupid when you divide it into each day/hour/minute.
yeah it just FIVE DOLLAR, how much if there's a million subscriber, it's 5 MILLION DOLLAR A MONTH.
it's clearly a clever way to make easy cash, even assume they didn't have a million subscriber money is money.
stop saying a cent like isn't worth anything.
You do understand that you're getting more than just the multiplayer with PS+? The free games and discounts for the PS4/PS3/PS2/PSX/PSVita/PSP.
ps. Don't get me wrong, Steam is fantastic. Just a one on one comparison of Steam and PS+ is not really accurate if you only look at the multiplayer option.
Well my point isn't about it being expensive or not, my point is I hate to see a good single player experience ruined by annoying online features. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but it might if sony offers developers incentives for sign ups now that online is a pay feature.
In other words, I'm worried Sony will offer developers X$ per new psn sign up and developers will then feel the need to innundate their games with unecessary online features to maximize profits.
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