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How to set up and use Swiss on the Wii

, For loading GameCube backups from an SD gecko or IDE drive (Go to first unread post)
person66 Post #1 Posted 05 May 2011 - 04:11 AM

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Setting up Swiss on the Nintendo Wii


This is a (hopefully) fairly simple tutorial on how to set up Swiss - The swiss army knife of GameCube homebrew. This tutorial assumes you have already modded your wii and have the homebrew channel and a cIOS installed. If you have not, I would recommend using the great windows application: ModMii
If you do not have access to a Windows computer, and ModMii is not an option, then another great tutorial is the Modify ANY Wii 4.3 & below guide

I don't take credit for any of the apps used this tutorial.
Swiss is by emu_kidid
the cMIOS installer is by WiiGator.
Swiss booter is by Wiipower.
Credit for any other things in this tutorial go to their authors.


Table of Contents
  • Stage 1 - Getting the required files
    • cMIOS
    • Swiss Booter
    • Swiss
  • Stage 2 - Setting up your SD card
    • Copying the files
    • Copying your games
    • cMIOS installation without internet
  • Stage 3 - Setting up your Wii
    • Installing the cMIOS
    • Starting up Swiss
  • Stage 4 - Using Swiss
  • Other Stuff & Troubleshooting
    • Patching with Pre-Patcher
    • Getting problem games to work
    • Using Multi-Disc games with Swiss
    • Using Cheats with Swiss
    • Using/Editing Custom Swiss Cheats
    • Dumping and/or Shrinking Your Games
    • Swiss booter doesn't start Swiss!?
    • The cMIOS installer gives an error when I try to install it
    • My files are fragmented!?
    • Swiss channels and extras
  • Video version of this tutorial


IMPORTANT NOTE:
Important Note 




Stage 1 - Getting the required files

First you are going to need to get all of the files required for swiss to work. I will not make an all-in one package, because things are always getting updated.

cMIOS
The first thing you will need is to install a cMIOS (unless you already have one installed on your wii. If you are not sure, it doesn't hurt to re-install one)
You can download the cMIOS (this one is based off MIOS v10) here: http://www.mediafire...4ayvwgqey66qc9v

Swiss Booter
You will also need the latest version of WiiPower's Swiss booter, which you can get from this thread: http://gbatemp.net/t...ii-swiss-booter

Swiss
And last but not least you will need the actual Swiss application, Which can be downloaded from here: http://code.google.c.../downloads/list
You will need the latest swiss version, so make sure you get that.
If you plan on using cheats, then you will also need the cheat editor.



Stage 2 - Setting up your SD card

Now you have to put all the files on your SD card. I am going to assume that you are using just one SD card.
Also, if your wii is not connected to the internet, and you are planning on installing the cMIOS, then you will need to follow the spoiler at the end of this section.

Copying the files
1] Start by opening up the WSB0.3.zip archive. Inside, there should be a folder called apps, and another called sourcecode. All you need is the apps folder. Just copy it to the root of your SD card.
2] Now open up the cMIOSWiiGator0.2.zip archive. Inside you should find a readme, a folder called sourcecode and a folder called cMIOSWiiGator. All we need is the cMIOSWiiGator folder. Just copy it to the apps directory on your SD card.
3] Next you will need to copy over the swiss application. Inside the swiss archive, you should find swiss-lz.dol and a readme. Just copy the swiss-lz.dol to either the root of your SD card, or to "SD:/apps/Swiss/". In either case, you must rename it to "swiss.dol"

Your SD card should now look something like this (although you probably won't have the RVL-mios-v10.wad):
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Copying your games
Now you have to copy your gamecube iso(s) over to your SD card or IDE hard drive. You can put it anywhere on the device, just make sure you know where it is.

cMIOS installation without internet
Setting up SD card for cMIOS installation without internet 




Stage 3 - Setting up your Wii

Now you are ready to move on to the Wii. Put your SD card in the front SD slot of the Wii and start up the homebrew channel. You should have these two apps:
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Installing the cMIOS
Again, if you already have a cMIOS, this step is optional, although it won't hurt your Wii to reinstall it.

So, start up the "Installer for WiiGator's cMIOS":
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You should get to a screen which asks which IOS to use for installation. Choose your cIOS (usually 249), and then Hit "A". After that, don't push anything until asks you to press 1 or start.
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So, then push 1 (or start if using a GameCube controller), and then choose MIOS menu, which should bring you to a screen like this:
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At that screen, you don't need to change anything, so just choose to "Install patched MIOS v10"

Now when it asks you where to load it from, choose to "Download MIOS from NUS" if your Wii is connected to the internet.
If your wii is not connected to the internet, and you followed the offline steps back in Stage 2, then choose to "Load MIOS from sd card"

After that, it will prepare, and then ask you to push A to install the MIOS. So go ahead and push A.

Once it is all done, it should look something like this:
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You can now push any button to exit the installer.

Starting up Swiss
Alright, this is the easy part. You should now be back in the homebrew channel.

If this is your only SD card, and it is the one you have your GameCube games on, then remove the SD card from the front SD slot, and put it in to your SD gecko, which in turn goes in to the GameCube memory slot B. Now hit "1" while on the homebrew channel and switch the device to "SD Gecko Slot B" (if it hasn't automatically done it already)

If you are using a separate SD card for your SD Gecko, or an IDE-EXI adapter, then you can insert that now in to the GameCube memory slot B.

Now go ahead and start up Wii Swiss Booter:
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If you come to a screen that looks like the one below, then you have done everything right so far. If not, then go back and review, or check the troubleshooting section at the end of the guide.
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Stage 4 - Using Swiss

While using Swiss, remember that you won't be able to use a Wii remote, and instead will have to use a GameCube controller. You also need to have a retail Wii or GameCube game in the disk drive.

To start off, you will have to choose what device you are using with the D-pad.
After that you will be presented with a screen asking what speed you want to use. Fast or Compatible. Start with compatible and if your game works fine, then you can try fast.
Now it will ask what slot to load from. Choose whatever slot your device is in.

Once your done all that, you should be taken to a screen that looks like this:
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From there navigate to the game you want to play using the D-pad, then select it using "A". Then push "A" again to continue, and then let the next part load and then push "A" a third time:
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Now let the DVD initialize, and then it should ask you if you want to stop the DVD motor. First choose "No", and if your game works fine, then next time try "Yes"

If your lucky, Your game should now start up:
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Other Stuff & Troubleshooting

Patching with Pre-Patcher
Pre-Patcher is now integrated in to Swiss, and will automatically patch any games which need it.
Patching games with Pre-Patcher (OLD) 


Getting problem games to work
Problem Games on Swiss 


Using Multi-Disc games with Swiss
Multi-Disc Games on Swiss 


Using Cheats with Swiss
Using Cheats 


Using/Editing Custom Swiss Cheats
Using/Editing Cheats 


Dumping and/or Shrinking Your Games
Dumping and Shrinking GameCube games with ease 


Swiss booter doesn't start Swiss!?
Possible fixes for Swiss booter not starting Swiss 


The cMIOS installer gives an error when I try to install it
Possible fixes for cMIOS installer 


My files are fragmented!?
Fixing file fragmentation 


Swiss channels and extras
Swiss channels and extras 



Video version of this tutorial


Watch it in HD and full screen if your computer can handle it




Well, that is the end of my tutorial. If you have comments or questions, please leave a reply. Feel free to point out any mistakes, this is my first tutorial, so I'm sure there are some somewhere. :yaywii:

Edited by person66, 21 October 2011 - 07:13 PM.



Morien Post #2 Posted 10 May 2011 - 10:52 AM

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Good work! Thanks for this.


MakiManPR Post #3 Posted 10 May 2011 - 03:33 PM

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Thanks! this should be sticky

btw tried Kirby Air Ride in Fast mode with Component cables but got a black screen

Edited by MakiManPR, 10 May 2011 - 04:06 PM.


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I really appreciate this tutorial! This should be among the best around GBATemp.

Thanks


WiiBricker Post #5 Posted 10 May 2011 - 03:50 PM

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Great work, this should eliminate some noobish questions.


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Excellent guide, was really waiting for someone to make one wink.gif


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Always read about 'Swiss' - never really thought about it because wasn't sure on how to set it up etc, so this seems like a good guide to follow (I'm already softmodded using FileTrip Download Link ModMii BTW) - just got to decide on SD Gecko or IDE-EXi route...

Quick question - as we're gonna use this to run our Gamecube backups - (roughly) how many games can you fit onto a SD card - it's pointless if we can only fit 2-3 games per card (I think I remember reading a GC game is ~ 1.4Gb - is that right ??)

Perhaps in your 'Shrinking' guide you could mention something like
"Without shrinking - each GC game will take about x.xx Gb of space on your SD card - meaning a typical 8Gb card would only be able to store yy games.
Depending on how successful the shrinking process is you may be able to 'shrink' each game by up to zz%
(although typically it's around yy%)"


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QUOTE(CannonFoddr @ May 11 2011, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quick question - as we're gonna use this to run our Gamecube backups - (roughly) how many games can you fit onto a SD card - it's pointless if we can only fit 2-3 games per card (I think I remember reading a GC game is ~ 1.4Gb - is that right ??)

The capacity of the GC disc is 1.5 GB, but there is a way to shrink your iso's. The tool is called GCMUtility 0.5. With this you can shrink them, still depending on the game how much can be shrunken, but it will save you some space on your SD or IDE-EXI (which atm is sold out).


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QUOTE(Gangboy @ May 11 2011, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(CannonFoddr @ May 11 2011, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quick question - as we're gonna use this to run our Gamecube backups - (roughly) how many games can you fit onto a SD card....
The capacity of the GC disc is 1.5 GB...
Ah so I was nearly right - this means then that the MINIMUM number of GC ROM you could store on a 16Gb SDHC card would be ~10 then....Not a lot then (could explain why the IDE-EXI is sold out laugh.gif )

Still since I only have ~12 GC original games - that's not too much of a problem (especially if I manage to 'shrink' them down a bit.. )



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QUOTE(CannonFoddr @ May 11 2011, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah so I was nearly right - this means then that the MINIMUM number of GC ROM you could store on a 16Gb SDHC card would be ~10 then....Not a lot then (could explain why the IDE-EXI is sold out laugh.gif )

Still since I only have ~12 GC original games - that's not too much of a problem (especially if I manage to 'shrink' them down a bit.. )


Indeed it should be around 10/15 games (shrunken). Else these days the cheap (low class, slower reads) 32GB/64GB SD cards go for around $30 these days on eBay. I'm going to test it with a 16GB first and will see. For now it's enough. smile.gif


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Hi,

i can't boot Phantasy Star Online 1&2. Is this game compatible ?


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QUOTE(syrusch @ May 15 2011, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

i can't boot Phantasy Star Online 1&2. Is this game compatible ?

Not sure, they arent on the temporary compatibility list
EDIT: I obviously fail at finding things in lists
What happens when you start them?

Also, thank you everyone for all the positive feedback. I am just going to add a few more things this week, and then I should be able to take off the work in progress message at the beginning.

Edited by person66, 16 May 2011 - 11:56 PM.


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QUOTE(person66 @ May 16 2011, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(syrusch @ May 15 2011, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

i can't boot Phantasy Star Online 1&2. Is this game compatible ?

Not sure, they arent on the temporary compatibility list

What happens when you start them?

Also, thank you everyone for all the positive feedback. I am just going to add a few more things this week, and then I should be able to take off the work in progress message at the beginning.

Checked the list and you need to pre-patch the iso (make a backup, so you keep a clean iso just in case).
"Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II - working - Cutscenes suffer a little. Ingame very good. (use pre-patcher)"


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QUOTE(Gangboy @ May 16 2011, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Checked the list and you need to pre-patch the iso (make a backup, so you keep a clean iso just in case).
"Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II - working - Cutscenes suffer a little. Ingame very good. (use pre-patcher)"



I used pre-patcher and it still didn't work. All I get is a black screen. I think I have the "Plus" version, would that make a difference? Do you know if there's anything else I'm missing? I've been wanting to play PSO again for years now, selling it was such a big mistake!

I'm gonna keep trying, and if I figure out what went wrong I'll come back and share!


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Quick update, I added multi-disc games, and also a link to the compatibility list, and removed the work in progress banner.

I also had to remove the achor tags (due to this) so the table of contents no longer links to the locations in the tutorial frown.gif







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