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Waninkoko prepares Firmware Updater 4.2, Yes Finally :)
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE(TiMeBoMb4u2 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:49 AM) *
What technology planet are you living on? You take a fresh 98 machine, boot it and a fresh Vista machine at the same time, and Vista will win most of the time!
I think you should update to 4.2.

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On the same machine configuration? In your dreams it would! Vista is the epitome of bloatware - thats why the recommended RAM required is 24 times higher than that of 98.
Closer to topic, personally I am not wetting my pants about the features of 4.2 as I have no desire to update (I am loathe to say upgrade lol).
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE(marcan_troll @ Sep 29 2009, 10:19 PM) *
So you finally made me re-register. BTW: The rules are hilarious, especially the "I will not ask for warez" bit. Hint: asking for or providing hexedited HBC is, technically speaking, warez.

But anyway, I really don't care what people do with their own Wii, I just think it is extremely stupid and dangerous when people provide stupid, broken, dangerous hacks for newbies to use. Want to fuck up every IOS beyond recognition, mod every last bitmap pixel in your Wii, hexedit every title ID to read LULZ, and make the System Menu say "oh shit" when you brick your Wii, just because you think it's funny? Go ahead! Just don't go around publishing that kind of crap, and certainly not without at least 10 pages of red text explaining why it's a really really REALLY stupid idea to install. And for fuck's sake, don't go around offering WAD versions of HBC, hacked or not. It's unsupported and illegal (and against forum rules, not that I'd ever expect the admins to give a shit), but moreso, it's very insulting.

It's not the people who fuck up their consoles that annoy me, it's those that pretend they know what they're doing and then go around publishing crap as if it were the awesomest schtuff in the universe, only to cause grief to users. And this goes for everything from system menu mods to wanky's updaters and patchers. I've gotten several dozen e-mails asking whether you can fix a brick caused by his crappy, untested, unchecked, poorly coded updaters with a SaveMii. The answer is, of course, no you can't.

So, if you screw up your Wii with stupid stuff I'll laugh a little inside, but if you go around publishing crap for the world to use, you'll annoy me and there's a chance I'll publicly flame you. You know, because I hope at least some clueless folk who doesn't know what he's doing who might think twice about touching the stuff after reading my flame. As much as you guys love to flame me, I think the track record of the software I used to help with for the Wii is good enough that at least I must somewhat know what I'm talking about.

Also, hint: there will be no issues caused by the Title ID change for HBC. Just because someone's stupid hexedit didn't work doesn't mean the real release won't. The HAXX title is hardcoded into the return stub left in memory by HBC, not into any apps (we're not monopolistic like that: if you use your own stub, you can make your own loader with a working return to it from apps). In fact, the "return to" stuff existed since the Twilight Hack, and it hasn't changed significantly since then. It predates even knowing how to launch channels or title IDs.

Pre-emptive reply to the whole "but you left the Wii scene" business: I haven't touched a line of Wii code in months. I rarely even test stuff that the rest of the team release now. I've updated to 4.2 (and lost homebrew) to make an exception, so I can test the final release of the new installer (I don't really care about homebrew myself anyway: except for a few Brawl matches, my Wii is gathering dust). I don't follow forums or anything else, and I only hang around on #wiidev and company to help with administration (no, no one has asked me to leave, kthx). I made an exception for this update because I'll admit it got me slightly excited, and because I was again reminded of just how completely stupid some people are when it comes to these things. These days I spend my time on other, less stressful, projects. I'm even about to contribute something that might be used by many more people than all the Wii homebrew business, and yet no one will find out, there will be no flame wars, no idiots messing stuff up. It's so much better that way. I already got a taste of the whole "popular hacky software for consoles which warezors inevitably abuse to warez" business (which is slowly fading away and not quite gone yet), and I don't have any intention of trying it again (don't expect any DSi stuff from me).

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post Sep 30 2009, 05:19 AM
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On a completely unrelated note, yes, you can run Win 98 on new hardware. You know how i know? I triple booted it with Windows XP for a while. And DOS. (FreeDOS btw, if anyone was wondering.)

On Topic: This is why i prefer my wiikey legacy. It has always worked, always will. I'm just holding off so i can run my VBAGx for pokemon red biggrin.gif. And of course, mplayer-ce for my lovely star trek videos.
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post Sep 30 2009, 06:29 AM
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In regards to marcan's comments, it was always going to better to wait for a hackmii update anyways. They've never let us down yet. I personally would never mess with the core system menu for the reasons marcan says in the 4.2 thread... too much brick potential. But, people are insanely impatient these days....
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:21 PM
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Waninkoko

YOU'RE AWESOME! biggrin.gif

please let it work...
i really want my homebrew channel back! smile.gif

greeeetzz!
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:29 PM
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Mhmm... Nintendo said that they made some backround fixes and made the system work fatser... Pure shit to me... Anyway. Thanks Wanin!
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:36 PM
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the problem with waiting for hackmii is that they are a bunch of anti-piracy children who feel the need to force their views regarding piracy on others. knowing them, they will probably screw around to mess up the IOSes we use for piracy.

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post Sep 30 2009, 04:47 PM
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why does the title say "Yes Finally smile.gif "

Like 1 day after the update was released isn't fast enough for ya? o_O
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post Sep 30 2009, 05:41 PM
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why this "windows" conversation really?
Dont you know that the "Wanin" guy builds on Linux? smile.gif Zen...i guess rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(JustReading @ Sep 30 2009, 04:36 PM) *
the problem with waiting for hackmii is that they are a bunch of anti-piracy children who feel the need to force their views regarding piracy on others. knowing them, they will probably screw around to mess up the IOSes we use for piracy.


All the latest released today HackMii does is complain about cioscorp, which you really shouldn't be using anyways....

EDIT: I guess it doesn't like a fake signed IOS 61 either. Still, not a huge deal for continued Homebrew. I don't get this "4.2 goodness" stuff all over the place though, since well... theres nothing good in 4.2:) lol

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post Sep 30 2009, 08:21 PM
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Hey Manaphy4ever,

you said you talk to Waninkoko, does he says something about cIOS rev 15 and does it comes soon ?
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post Sep 30 2009, 08:30 PM
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Excuse my ignorance but I don't understand why everybody is waiting for this like it was the ultimate thing they needed...
I mean, what does Waninkoko Firmware 4.x updaters do that we could not already do with DOP-IOS & the system menu WAD ? It's always IOS70 downloading/patching and system menu title downloading/installing after all, nothing new...

Even if you don't want to mess with WM, hasn't anybody yet modified one of these app (like Shop Installer) to download/install the system menu as well, instead of waiting for him like releasing the same stuff again & again ?

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the problem with waiting for hackmii is that they are a bunch of anti-piracy children who feel the need to force their views regarding piracy on others. knowing them, they will probably screw around to mess up the IOSes we use for piracy.


well, if you want to keep your HBC under 4.2, you will have to download their new Installer anyway... there is nothing Waninkoko Updater will do to fix this (unless he choose the dangerous & stupid road of modifying the system menu before installing it)
And yes, HBC won't install if all your IOS have been modified and have a bad signature, same goes if you modify the IOS it is using after the installation: they clearly said there were good reasonx they choose to check this and no, those are not childish anti-pirate reasons, this is to prevent your wii from bricking during the installation of the channel, you know, they use their own exploit/hacks to be able to install stuff on unmodified Wii so they perfectly know what they are doing, better trust them on that one...

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post Sep 30 2009, 09:14 PM
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"the new TitleID will work fine. Your retarded hacks didn’t, because HBC’s title ID is hardcoded in multiple places inside the binary"

see....statements like this show true douchebaggery.

ok, duh, the title ID is hardcoded.....but no one here has the source, so the best anyone here could do is exactly what was done...why is that retarted? it worked well enough in the interim.
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post Sep 30 2009, 10:28 PM
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Apparently the new 4.2 update fixes the respawn bug in The Conduit so I can't wait for Waninkoko to release the next one. Take your time Waninkoko, there's no rush mate...and thanks for your hard work. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2009, 10:58 PM
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http://gamingexposed.com/waninkoko/Firmware-Updater_4.2.zip
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