Using Luma3DS + Gateway on B9S

nico_thered · Dec 12, 2017

Hello guys,

I used to have an emuNAND installation with Gateway, but I totally migrated to CFW with Luma and b9s. The problem is I didn't export my .sav files before doing the upgrade. So I'm now running sysNAND CFW on 11.6 (latest update) and everything is working fine, but I can't decrypt my .sav files from my old SD card.

I was wondering if I should downgrade to 11.2 to be able to run the exploit and then get into Gateway mode, but I don't really know how to do that.
I still have a backup of my emuNAND (11.2) and my NAND (9.0) on my PC though.

Any suggestions, or link to guides would be really appreciated

Thanks

Arnold101 · Dec 13, 2017

any news for latest firmware support?

if i want to play online and add a friend code, the friend app tell me that i require the latest firmware updated, this can be avoided somehow? thanks

Kazuma77 · Dec 14, 2017

nico_thered said:
Hello guys,

I used to have an emuNAND installation with Gateway, but I totally migrated to CFW with Luma and b9s. The problem is I didn't export my .sav files before doing the upgrade. So I'm now running sysNAND CFW on 11.6 (latest update) and everything is working fine, but I can't decrypt my .sav files from my old SD card.

I was wondering if I should downgrade to 11.2 to be able to run the exploit and then get into Gateway mode, but I don't really know how to do that.
I still have a backup of my emuNAND (11.2) and my NAND (9.0) on my PC though.

Any suggestions, or link to guides would be really appreciated

Thanks

Well, if you don't want to format EmuNAND again (I never deleted mine, because to me it was just not worth the hassle to reclaim such a tiny amount of space in the first place), I have an idea that should work. If you migrated your EmuNAND to SysNAND, your current SysNAND should be using the same ID1 as your old EmuNAND. So, if you just want to make a quick trip back to 11.2 to convert a few saves, just backup your ticket file (1:/dbs/ticket.db) to your SD card, then restore your 11.2 backup, then restore your ticket file. All of your recently installed games should then show back up. Connvert your saves, and update back to 11.6.

My InScripted AIO has a "Ticket Master" function in "Options" that can backup and restore your ticket file for you. It might save you some time over doing it manually in GM9. It also has a "Gateway Save Converter Helper" function to assist with converting the saves while we're on the topic. It's on the iso site and the max site if you're interested. Just copy the appropriate configuration from the "Configurations (Sighax)" folder over, hold "down" at boot, and select the "Options" app for these features. You'll also notice I've consolidated the NAND backup and restore scripts into a single app for your convenience.

Arnold101 said:
any news for latest firmware support?

if i want to play online and add a friend code, the friend app tell me that i require the latest firmware updated, this can be avoided somehow? thanks

Still nothing from GW. Because of all the Stargate delays, they're saying mid January now. I don't play my 3DS online (I have a PS4 for that), but from what I've read, many people have been able to get online in GW mode just by updating the friends module to the latest version. You can download it with 3DNUS or any other app that can download and create firmware CIAs. As usual, back your EmuNAND up first in case something goes wrong.

Someone posted a full list of the titles they used to successfully get online working here. I would suggest starting with the friends module, then maybe do Nver and Cver if the friends module alone isn't enough, then try updating Mint and eShop if that still isn't enough, and update the browser stuff last. If you get it working, let me know what you replaced, so I'll know exactly what to tell the next person that asks.

Arnold101 · Dec 14, 2017

hi thanks

i have no emunand (not want it) but sysnand patched with luma cfw, with last firmware compatible for gateway 11.2 ..), so what should i do/download from 3dnus?

wiewiec · Dec 15, 2017

Hi i am at 11.2 could i use this tut without risk of losing b9s?

Kazuma77 · Dec 16, 2017

Arnold101 said:
hi thanks i have no emunand (not want it) but sysnand patched with luma cfw, with last firmware compatible for gateway 11.2 ..), so what should i do/download from 3dnus?

Well, if you want to grab the whole 11.6 firmware set, you would enter "11.6.0-39U" for the US set (change it to E for EUR, J for JPN, etc.). To download individual titles you just enter the title you need and the version. In the case of the friends system module you would enter "0004013000003202 v16384" for example. To figure out what the version number for a specific title you need is, use this site. Select the CFW you want information about, and select the "Titlelist" that matches your region (E is USA and P is EUR, not exactly the most obvious choices, but, my guess is they keep using it because it would be too much work to change it now).

Once you have the files you want, place them in a folder on the SD card named "updates" and then use SysUpdater to update the files (it can also do downgrades, if anyone else reading this needs to downgrade an 11.6 EmuNAND, the main difference being that you'll have to boot the EmuNAND with Luma since GW can't run it).

If you want to do a "full 11.6 spoof" the titles you need to remove from the 11.6 set depend on hardware and region. The full list of stuff to leave out is:

0004013000002D02
0004013820000002 (N3DS Only)
0004013020001C02 (N3DS Only)
0004003000008F02 (USA Only) (replace it with the 11.4 version if you want to)
0004003000009802 (EUR Only) (replace it with the 11.4 version if you want to)
0004003000008202 (JPN Only) (replace it with the 11.4 version if you want to)
0004013000001C02 (O3DS Only)
0004013800000002 (O3DS Only)
0004013000008002 (O3DS Only)
000400300000CC02 (USA O3DS Only)
000400300000D402 (EUR O3DS Only)
000400300000C402 (JPN O3DS Only)

I would suggest going with a minimalist approach if you insist on not setting up EmuNAND. If you accidentally update NATIVE_FIRM, you will lose your exploit when you boot GW mode. My recommendation would be to just do the friends module (especially if you don't have an NTRBootHax cart).

wiewiec said:
Hi i am at 11.2 could i use this tut without risk of losing b9s?

Yes. You can run both as long as you don't update. B9S (and the superior Sighax payload, GM9) can run both easily. I would heavily recommend formatting an EmuNAND if you don't already have one. I know it's a pain backing up your card, then copying everything back, but it's for the best both from a safety and flexibility standpoint. You can update SysNAND to 11.6 and still have GW working with the 11.2 EmuNAND. Also, Gateway will stop asking you to enter the key combination and just automatically boot using your EmuNAND if you have one. The GW software really wants an EmuNAND, and it's truly in your best interests to give it one.

Also, I would heavily recommend just using my InScripted AIO (available on the iso site and the max site if you know where to look, if you need more specific instructions on finding it, just ask) instead of the tutorial. The included configurations are ready-to-use (Gateway is already on B, just hold it at boot for GW instead of Luma) so there are no steps to mess up (just drag and drop). It uses a converted Gateway payload so that there is only one chainloader being used instead of three (granted, the speed difference would only be noticeable if you could enter bullet time while your 3DS is booting, but it's a cleaner solution all the same). It also includes tools for converting saves and synchronizing tickets (in case you want to leave your NANDs linked -- for me, it's worth it, so I can play the same games on both). You can also use the included Sighax Updater to update your firm partitions from B9S to GM9 if you haven't already done so manually (it has a bootloader menu that vanilla B9S does not). Though it can update B9S as well (basically, it's like a Safe B9S Installer that can install and update both).

Though that's just the beginning. My AIO has a Settings app on the R hotkey. You can use it to change the default payload and hotkeys to anything you want (or even switch to a different chainloader from the default). I also include other CFWs like Rei-Six (it's on X by default). My goal with InScripted goes beyond just running Luma and GW side by side. I set out to eliminate the long lists of manual steps and multiple trips to the PC for everyone. My goal is to make it as easy to install CFW and configure chainloaders as possible. It may never be as simple as installing and customizing Rebug CFW on the PS3, but it's close. I hope people will like it.

nico_thered · Dec 16, 2017

Kazuma77 said:
Well, if you don't want to format EmuNAND again (I never deleted mine, because to me it was just not worth the hassle to reclaim such a tiny amount of space in the first place), I have an idea that should work. If you migrated your EmuNAND to SysNAND, your current SysNAND should be using the same ID1 as your old EmuNAND. So, if you just want to make a quick trip back to 11.2 to convert a few saves, just backup your ticket file (1:/dbs/ticket.db) to your SD card, then restore your 11.2 backup, then restore your ticket file. All of your recently installed games should then show back up. Connvert your saves, and update back to 11.6.

My InScripted AIO has a "Ticket Master" function in "Options" that can backup and restore your ticket file for you. It might save you some time over doing it manually in GM9. It also has a "Gateway Save Converter Helper" function to assist with converting the saves while we're on the topic. It's on the iso site and the max site if you're interested. Just copy the appropriate configuration from the "Configurations (Sighax)" folder over, hold "down" at boot, and select the "Options" app for these features. You'll also notice I've consolidated the NAND backup and restore scripts into a single app for your convenience.

Awesome, I'm gonna try that right now.

Thanks a lot for your answer

Arnold101 · Dec 17, 2017

Kazuma77 said:
Well, if you want to grab the whole 11.6 firmware set, you would enter "11.6.0-39U" for the US set (change it to E for EUR, J for JPN, etc.). To download individual titles you just enter the title you need and the version. In the case of the friends system module you would enter "0004013000003202 v16384" for example. To figure out what the version number for a specific title you need is, use this site. Select the CFW you want information about, and select the "Titlelist" that matches your region (E is USA and P is EUR, not exactly the most obvious choices, but, my guess is they keep using it because it would be too much work to change it now).

Once you have the files you want, place them in a folder on the SD card named "updates" and then use SysUpdater to update the files (it can also do downgrades, if anyone else reading this needs to downgrade an 11.6 EmuNAND, the main difference being that you'll have to boot the EmuNAND with Luma since GW can't run it).

If you want to do a "full 11.6 spoof" the titles you need to remove from the 11.6 set depend on hardware and region. The full list of stuff to leave out is:

the point is that even if i update the friend app, i cannot play online since mario kart check the console firmware itself to play online. one simple thing to do would be go to an emunand, but, how i can do this in the easiest way? and if i want to remove it from the sdcard how i can do it simply to free the used gigs? there's a simple way to remove the emunand partition? thanks

Kazuma77 · Dec 17, 2017

Arnold101 said:
the point is that even if i update the friend app, i cannot play online since mario kart check the console firmware itself to play online. one simple thing to do would be go to an emunand, but, how i can do this in the easiest way? and if i want to remove it from the sdcard how i can do it simply to free the used gigs? there's a simple way to remove the emunand partition? thanks

Adding/removing an EmuNAND always requires formatting the card, because they're raw partitions. It's never going to be hassle-free. You will always need to back the card up. You can use the original GW software to format if your card is below 256 GB. Be aware that it will crash after completion because, for whatever reason, it fails to copy "Launcher.dat" back to the card from memory when it's done. You could also use GodMode9, but while the full size or even minimum size option actually works with GW, I'd suggest setting the full legacy size manually (1 GB for O3DS, 2 GB for N3DS) to ensure maximum compatibility. If you have a nice 128 GB card, my advice would be to just go ahead and setup 4 now, since most CFWs support 4. You may never need all 4 (most of mine are only using 2), but it beats being caught off guard if a new use materializes. You'll find the easiest way to setup multiple EmuNANDs on the same card here.

GW patches update checks though. That's why new games don't ask you to update when you run them. So, the problem you mention with Mario Kart should not be an issue. The only check GW apparently needs a little help with is the friends system module version. Not that I've tried it. Like I always say, if I want to play online, I've got a PS4. But according to this and the many replies from satisfied users, it works. Try it. If it isn't enough, update Nver and Cver. The only thing updating those won't fool is the eShop (you can even make a fake Youtube video showing that you're running GW on 11.6, because it will say 11.6 in System Settings).

Arnold101 · Dec 17, 2017

Kazuma77 said:
Adding/removing an EmuNAND always requires formatting the card, because they're raw partitions. It's never going to be hassle-free. You will always need to back the card up. You can use the original GW software to format if your card is below 256 GB. Be aware that it will crash after completion because, for whatever reason, it fails to copy "Launcher.dat" back to the card from memory when it's done. You could also use GodMode9, but while the full size or even minimum size option actually works with GW, I'd suggest setting the full legacy size manually (1 GB for O3DS, 2 GB for N3DS) to ensure maximum compatibility. If you have a nice 128 GB card, my advice would be to just go ahead and setup 4 now, since most CFWs support 4. You may never need all 4 (most of mine are only using 2), but it beats being caught off guard if a new use materializes. You'll find the easiest way to setup multiple EmuNANDs on the same card here.

GW patches update checks though. That's why new games don't ask you to update when you run them. So, the problem you mention with Mario Kart should not be an issue. The only check GW apparently needs a little help with is the friends system module version. Not that I've tried it. Like I always say, if I want to play online, I've got a PS4. But according to this and the many replies from satisfied users, it works. Try it. If it isn't enough, update Nver and Cver. The only thing updating those won't fool is the eShop (you can even make a fake Youtube video showing that you're running GW on 11.6, because it will say 11.6 in System Settings).

so 0004013000003202.cia is the friend module? and wich firmware version i need to download from 3dnus? 0004013000003202.cia is the same name file even on the last firmware? when i use gw with luma3ds and mario kart is on the gateway card, it show error when i click on online play in mario kart saying that console need the last firmware

how i can spoof the latest fw version? in luma gateway mode?

Arnold101 · Dec 17, 2017

i have updated the friend module correclty and installed the update formario kart, now i got error 002 0123 impossible to use online service with this game cartridge. firmware is not spoofed and game is from gateway card inside luma 3ds compatibility. how i can spoof the firmware version?

Arnold101 · Dec 17, 2017

ok i have installed the cia version of the game and bye bye error...

but if i want to play a title like dead or alive that is only on catridge? how i cancel that error please?

Kazuma77 · Dec 17, 2017

Arnold101 said:
ok i have installed the cia version of the game and bye bye error... but if i want to play a title like dead or alive that is only on catridge? how i cancel that error please?

To play ROMs online, they need to have valid headers. You have to patch them with a private header you've dumped from one of your own carts (you'll need an app called "Gateway Rom Patcher v1.2" for that -- copy and paste that into Google or your search engine of choice). Just use it to extract the header from one of your own dumps and inject it into a downloaded one. If the app offers to correct some parts, let it. Once it has a good header, you can rename the extension to .3dz to play the ROM online.

Or you could just use 3DSConv to easily convert any ROMs with online features into CIAs in a single step. That requires a copy of boot9.bin in the folder to work (if you don't already have it, just hold start+select+X when booting your system with B9S installed, and it will dump the boot roms to the "boot9strap" folder).

Arnold101 · Dec 18, 2017

great Kazuma77 thanks a lot!

there is a way to install dsi ware on a dsi console? and a way to downgrade fw/made again working the ez flash vi on the fw 1.45? on the 1.43 is working.

Maximilious · Dec 18, 2017

Hey everyone,

I just followed 3ds.guide (finally) and got CFW on my N3DS. Sadly I lost the contents of my emuNAND before the setup as my SD card crashed and became corrupted. I was able to get an emuNAND backup using emuTool, but the physical files were lost needed for the restore.

Anyway, I'd still like the ability to use my GW in an emuNAND, but I can't find a way to launch the GW menu to create a new emuNAND partition. What other means can I use to create an emuNAND partition and use this tool to boot to it?

P.S. - I've already followed the OP steps and can boot GW in sysNAND mode. My sysNAND is still 9.0 with Luma/B9S/GodMode9 available, and I'm not going to update it until I can get an emuNAND created and validate that my GW will launch to it successfully.

Arnold101 · Dec 19, 2017

you don't need an emunand at all

Maximilious · Dec 19, 2017

Arnold101 said:
you don't need an emunand at all

For GW, yes. Current version is 11.4, GW only supports 11.2, so emuNAND is needed. Anyway, I figured it out, created emuNAND in GM9 and ran TinyFormat to separate sysNAND/emuNAND.

Arnold101 · Dec 19, 2017

??? gw not support 11.4 neither in emunand or 11.6 too

Maximilious · Dec 20, 2017

Arnold101 said:
??? gw not support 11.4 neither in emunand or 11.6 too

Wow, you're not understanding. To support GW now we absolutely need emuNAND because as you said does not support 11.4. So we need emuNAND 11.2 unlinked to sysNAND on 11.4 to still use it.

I accomplished this using the steps I mentioned above - create emuNAND in GM9, then tinyformat on sysNAND to unlink. You can update emuNAND to 11.2 using Wooly and Yoshi ROM on your GW cart, press UP on D-Pad while booting to allow update from cart (may take a couple tries since you need to press down to boot into GW with this code).

Edit: I should mention that my sysNAND was on 9.0 before doing any modding. Sort of sad the 3ds.guide mentions to update as soon as you get Luma installed since it doesn't give an easy way to go back unless you want to restore your sysNAND.

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