Hardware SFANS has changed their backers design into a dock without asking!

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Yeah, they could of just left the ‘creepy cable’ in. The comments section just shows how angry everyone is.

Plus the hdmi port is in the front of the dock... that’s going to look awful and spin the dock around. Hdmi cables are ridgid and thick.
 

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Plus the hdmi port is in the front of the dock... that’s going to look awful and spin the dock around. Hdmi cables are ridgid and thick.

does not matter, USB C spec means that it is reversible. the dock is symmetrical so the Switch should be able to face either direction.
 

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Plus the hdmi port is in the front of the dock... that’s going to look awful and spin the dock around. Hdmi cables are ridgid and thick.

With it being USB-C you could probably turn the Switch around so that the HDMI and power cable do come out the back, unless they designed it poorly.
 

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With it being USB-C you could probably turn the Switch around so that the HDMI and power cable do come out the back, unless they designed it poorly.

If they follow USB C spec, then yes that will work. It should follow spec since the C Force was plagiarized to make this and it was spec complaint.
 

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If they follow USB C spec, then yes that will work. It should follow spec since the C Force was plagiarized to make this and it was spec complaint.

Yeah, you're right, its perfectly symmetrical, I was considering for a second that the Switch might have the port further toward the front or back so that if the front and back of the dock were too snug it could only fit one way (I'm well aware that USB-C will go in either way), but nope its right in the middle, I just checked on both my docks (official and Nyko version) and regardless of which way I put the switch in, it fits into the dock regardless of how snug the sides of the dock are with the Switch itself if that makes sense.
 

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Just sharing with you guys. Melopow M002 is awesome. It works with switch, macbook and samsung S8 dex mode. kill 3 bird with 1 stone. best of all its just $16.50. Theres a video on youtube and couple of people reviewing this is legit.

yeah theres couple of chinese dongle but most of them might only work with one device not the other. this can do all three

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Melopow-M002-HDMI-Type-C-Compatible-Adapter-For-NES-Switch-MACBOOK-SAMSUNG-S8/202055814779?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
 
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A change in design just doesn't feel like inherently sleazy behavior to me. And even if you do find this behavior sleazy, it is typical for crowdfunding projects and you know it, no one should be surprised to see this happening from prototype to final product, yet people continue to be time and time again. Be mad or frustrated I guess, but again I just don't see why its shocking and unacceptable, when its the very nature of the platform. Prototype to final product, expect changes along the way, that's exactly how I've always viewed these platforms.

Compare the two designs, this isn't something minor like changing the colour or the odd tweak but a significant reworking of how someone may use the product.

As I've said before, if I had backed this, it would have been because it was a dongle and not a dock (the latter being unsuitable for certain scenarios I encounter).
 

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Compare the two designs, this isn't something minor like changing the colour or the odd tweak but a significant reworking of how someone may use the product.

As I've said before, if I had backed this, it would have been because it was a dongle and not a dock (the latter being unsuitable for certain scenarios I encounter).

Yeah, but I think I understand why they made the change: legal woes. The design was clearly nothing more than a rebranding of that Chinese smartphone adapter we've seen sold elsewhere under different names just with a different shell. I suspect to avoid legal troubles they realized they needed to make a significant change while still maintaining the integrity of what the device is at heart.
 
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To be fair the original design was terrible. You can't prop up the switch when plugged in unless you get creative with a bunch of 1-2-3 blocks or something, And letting it sit flat is going to cause serious heating problems with blocked ports and UFD failure.

If they stick with the original design they are likely to run into problems with people's Switches dying and refund demands and lawsuits.

As soon as I saw the title I knew you'd be here, once more playing apologist for a company who screwed things up. If people wanted another vertical dock, they would have purchased a second dock from Nintendo, or one of Nyko's docks. They wanted a pocket sized little brick, cable or no cable, that could easily fit into a pocket on a generic case or just shove it in their pocket while carrying their switch. This new device is oddly shaped, not pocket friendly, and thus does not meet the use case requirements the original design met, they didn't want the new design regardless of the possible damage that can be caused by being an idiot while using the original. I'm sure you'll ignore the points I made or attack me for something else, like grammar.
 
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Yeah, but I think I understand why they made the change: legal woes. The design was clearly nothing more than a rebranding of that Chinese smartphone adapter we've seen sold elsewhere under different names just with a different shell. I suspect to avoid legal troubles they realized they needed to make a significant change while still maintaining the integrity of what the device is at heart.

Legal troubles, I highly doubt it. the CForce already has other clones out there and most of those Chinese companies do not bother with legal battles since it costs money and they know that for every one clone they take out, two or more take their spot.
 

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Legal troubles, I highly doubt it. the CForce already has other clones out there and most of those Chinese companies do not bother with legal battles since it costs money and they know that for every one clone they take out, two or more take their spot.

SFANS was making a name for itself and was the standout device of that design despite not being the original. It would make sense to me why it over others could be the target for legal issues, or they just rather didn't want to risk the potential legal troubles in the future, a case of being better safe than sorry.
 

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SFANS was making a name for itself and was the standout device of that design despite not being the original. It would make sense to me why it over others could be the target for legal issues, or they just rather didn't want to risk the potential legal troubles in the future, a case of being better safe than sorry.

If theyre still using the same guts, just changing the shell wont avoid them.

They could also have redesigned it so that it was closer to the original premise, I doubt theres a design patent involved.

Its also opening themselves up to potential legal issues from their backers by acting the way they are, even if theres no merit it could still cost them money.
 
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I guess I'm a bit confused as to why anyone wouldn't welcome this change. When running 768 you'd want all that rising hot air leaving out the top and your Switch in an open area, and this dock now props it upright and sturdy where the old wouldn't. My only concern would be that it's now blocking the intake vents on the bottom.
That the Switch already comes with a dock is a moot point because outside the fact the console is properly upright, it's design is atrocious and nowhere near portable. Didn't Nintendo file a patent for a dock revision weeks within launch?
That aside isn't it kind of the point of crowdfunding where you're trusting them with your money to make informed choices in design like this?
 

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I guess I'm a bit confused as to why anyone wouldn't welcome this change. When running 768 you'd want all that rising hot air leaving out the top and your Switch in an open area, and this dock now props it upright and sturdy where the old wouldn't. My only concern would be that it's now blocking the intake vents on the bottom.
That the Switch already comes with a dock is a moot point because outside the fact the console is properly upright, it's design is atrocious and nowhere near portable. Didn't Nintendo file a patent for a dock revision weeks within launch?
That aside isn't it kind of the point of crowdfunding where you're trusting them with your money to make informed choices in design like this?

A lot of people backed it since it was a dongle and they wanted to use their Switch in areas that a dock would not work as well or not at all. That is no longer an option since the dongle feature was removed rather than made detachable like the image I posted earlier.
 

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They haven't offered that as a solution, i feel sorry for the backers who went for the one WITH a stand and paid extra for it, now they get a stand and a sfans dock...
No, I mean buying an extension cable and plugging it into the top

But yeah, I do feel bad for people who paid for the stand, that's really shitty
 

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