Hacking Deleted arm9loaderhax.bin from CTR Nand. 2DS doesn't turn on anymore. Halp

Lya · Sep 20, 2017

Hey everyone,

I literally get from one problem into the other. It's really frustrating.

Long story short is, I am trying to go from arm9lh to boot9 but I can't even get into the Chainloader of Luma as my Version is only 6.6 at the moment, which has no chainloader yet. So I needed to go to 7.0.4 first.

So someone tried to help me out and instructed me to delete the arm9loaderhax.bin directly from the CTR NAND. I used FBI for this and only deleted this single file. I didn't touch anything else. What I didn't know is, that it has to be REPLACED. So I shut my Ds down and now it's not going on anymore.

When I try to turn it on, everything it does is lighting up with a short blue light on the power light. Nothing else happens.

Some people told me, that this shouldn't be a problem as the Luma boot can also be done with the arm9loaderhax.bin from the SD, but it IS on the SD and still nothing happens. I even replaced it with a different version and went back to the original, untouched arm9loaderhax.bin from the beginning. Still nothing.

Should I try the recovery mode? What can I do now?

ShadowOne333 · Sep 20, 2017

Are you sure the correct arm9loader.bin file is in the SD and in its root?
Check again what version of the a9lh it is.

Lya · Sep 20, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
Are you sure the correct arm9loader.bin file is in the SD and in its root?
Check again what version of the a9lh it is.

That was my first thought as well. I tried out different versions and went back to the arm9loaderhax.bin I used from the beginning, before I started the guide (which was 6.6). I also downloaded 6.6 once manually. But it didn't help.

That's how my root looks like at the moment

ShadowOne333 · Sep 20, 2017

Have you tried pressing Select/Start or any other buttons before boot?
Perhaps one of the payloads might get loaded up if you do that.

Lya · Sep 20, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
Have you tried pressing Select/Start or any other buttons before boot?
Perhaps one of the payloads might get loaded up if you do that.

Yep tried that as well :/ but the screen doesn't even light up. It stays black. Nothings happens. I suppose this is a brick

ShadowOne333 · Sep 20, 2017

That's odd. :/
Do you have an R4 card?
Perhaps you could do the process to start the B9S installation.

One more thing...
Do you have a cart in the cartridge slot?
If you do, try removing it and power on the system after there is not cart there.

fedehda · Sep 20, 2017

So... you didn't backed up that file?

Have you tried with all luma releases up to 7.0.5 yet?

Lya · Sep 20, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
That's odd. :/
Do you have an R4 card?
Perhaps you could do the process to start the B9S installation.

One more thing...
Do you have a cart in the cartridge slot?
If you do, try removing it and power on the system after there is not cart there.

No, I have no R4 card. But I don't think this can help, because the ds doesn't turn on in the first place. The cartridge slot idea was good, I didn't think about that yet but sadly it didn't help either

My last idea was that maybe the SD card got currupt. I remember that I didn't eject the SD card before entering it into the Ds again. Could this be the problem? Seems so unlikely. I searched for corrupted files and errors but couldn't find anything.

Also I tried the recovery mode and it didn't came up, so I think that means it's hard bricked

Well at least it's not an utterly expensive 3ds but "only" an old 2ds.

Thanks for your time and help anyways

!

fedehda said:
So... you didn't backed up that file?

Have you tried with all luma releases up to 7.0.5 yet?

What file exactly? The one in the CTR Nand? No, I only deleted it. I made a sysnand backup when I first installed arm9, I think.

But I did a backup from the content of my SD card as well, before I started editing it with new files. So the old arm9loaderhax.bin file is still there. It didn't work with this one too though

ShadowOne333 · Sep 20, 2017

Well my only suggestion would be to give it a clean bootup.
Remove the SD, remove the cart, remove anything from it.

Then, once you are sure there is nothing more, power it on.
It's worth the try.

Also try reformatting the SD, it might help, but do that after removing everything and giving that a try first.

Quantumcat · Sep 20, 2017

It can't be bricked, there's just something wrong with the SD card or the file. Download it fresh and use a different SD card.

Lya · Sep 20, 2017

Quantumcat said:
It can't be bricked, there's just something wrong with the SD card or the file. Download it fresh and use a different SD card.

I hope it's just the SD card. I will try some other cards the next days. I already downloaded the bin file fresh several times, so this can't be the issue.

Could it be that the arm9loaderhax.bin.bak or some other file on the root is distracting Luma from booting normally?

ShadowOne333 · Sep 20, 2017

Lya said:
I hope it's just the SD card. I will try some other cards the next days. I already downloaded the bin file fresh several times, so this can't be the issue.

Could it be that the arm9loaderhax.bin.bak or some other file on the root is distracting Luma from booting normally?

You can always clean up any other arm9 file you have in the root and only have one main arm9loader.bin file in it.
The bak and other files are not needed for luma to boot, only the .bin one.

Quantumcat · Sep 20, 2017

Also try Decrypt9.bin on the root and rename to arm9loaderhax.bin

GothicIII · Sep 21, 2017

Maybe he has an ancient a9lh version which doesnt provide a fallback to sd card if the loader on ctrnand is missing? For this to check we need to know which arm9loaderhax fork was installed and in which version.

I never Bothered to install cfw inside nand because of such risks.

If nothing helps ntrboothax will be required to save the console.

Quantumcat · Sep 21, 2017

GothicIII said:
Maybe he has an ancient a9lh version which doesnt provide a fallback to sd card if the loader on ctrnand is missing? For this to check we need to know which arm9loaderhax fork was installed and in which version.

I never Bothered to install cfw inside nand because of such risks.

If nothing helps ntrboothax will be required to save the console.

That's completely backwards. The booting from CTR-NAND was added way after, and it was always an addition not an either/or. It isn't dangerous, unless you start deleting random stuff from your CTR-NAND.

Majickhat55 · Sep 21, 2017

Not to mention it's my personal opinion that putting CFW in CTRNAND is pointless overkill for two reasons:
1. No one uses a DS without an SD card.
2. When your SD card starts dying (even if games/apps show up etc) there is no way to tell if it's being boot from CTRNAND or your SD card. (granted the next version of Luma addresses this)

It's just a fail safe in case your card DOES die and you don't have another at hand, you can still "boot" the console but without an SD you can't do much with it anyway. The only good reason I can think of to use CFW in CTRNAND is on dev units for testing purposes, or to hide the existence of CFW for whatever reason. Otherwise it just seems to cause more issues than it solves.

The Real Jdbye · Sep 21, 2017

Majickhat55 said:
Not to mention it's my personal opinion that putting CFW in CTRNAND is pointless overkill for two reasons:
1. No one uses a DS without an SD card.
2. When your SD card starts dying (even if games/apps show up etc) there is no way to tell if it's being boot from CTRNAND or your SD card. (granted the next version of Luma addresses this)

It's just a fail safe in case your card DOES die and you don't have another at hand, you can still "boot" the console but without an SD you can't do much with it anyway. The only good reason I can think of to use CFW in CTRNAND is on dev units for testing purposes, or to hide the existence of CFW for whatever reason. Otherwise it just seems to cause more issues than it solves.

It's useful for those who own cartridges, so they can still play those if the SD card goes bad while on vacation or something. The chances of that happening are small, but still, it's just some extra safety, no point in not doing it.

Majickhat55 · Sep 21, 2017

The Real Jdbye said:
It's useful for those who own cartridges, so they can still play those if the SD card goes bad while on vacation or something. The chances of that happening are small, but still, it's just some extra safety, no point in not doing it.

True I own carts as well, didn't think of that.

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satan89 · Sep 21, 2017

Lya said:
but I can't even get into the Chainloader of Luma as my Version is only 6.6 at the moment, which has no chainloader yet. So I needed to go to 7.0.4 first.

No, you didn't have to. Just delete start_hourglass and place start_safeb9s bin file in luma/payloads would have allowed you to boot into safeb9sinstaller. (By pressing START + POWER)

Lya said:
So someone tried to help me out and instructed me to delete the arm9loaderhax.bin directly from the CTR NAND. I used FBI for this and only deleted this single file.

Doing just this should have made your 3ds unbootable when your SD card isn't inserted only. It shouldn't matter if you still have a working SD card with the bin file.

It's very likely your SD card isn't getting detected. Probably because it's corrupt? Anyways take a different SD card, place only arm9loaderhax.bin (taken from any 6.x or 7.x luma release) in the root of the SD card and try to boot it with the SD card inserted.

If it doesn't boot, using ntrboot could still work. So if you can find a compatible flashcart don't lose hope.

Quantumcat · Sep 21, 2017

Also if the SD card slot dies. If you didn't put boot.firm on CTR-NAND then your console no longer functions at all.

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