Hacking Four new people paid off by Nintendo in the HackerOne program

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Im gonna ask for the majority of the good part of this community. Quit your bitching! Please! No one cares. If you want to be pissed about it, go ahead. But dont call it "stupid" when its not your decision on what yo do with the exploits. Quit acting entitled and get over it. You dont own the exploit. The community doesnt own the exploit. What nintendo is doing is paying people to do a their job. If a hobby had the opportunity to turn into a job, 90% of the people would take it. Calling it a wall of shame is idiotic. Acting entitled is also idiotic. Stop. Nintendo has every right to have this program and the people that find the vulnerabilities have the right to keep it private, release it, or give it to nintendo.
 

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No, I'm trying to support those people trying to hack the Switch, and these people are the ones preventing it. I don't care about piracy, fuck that, but Nintendo should stop blocking every little fucking harmless homebrew that doesn't do anything bad for them.

One thing leads to the other. It starts with a small webkit exploit and it keeps going up and up until eventually there is piracy.
And also, a flawed system is a bad system, Nintendo isn't incompetent, they're just fixing bugs and holes.
We make stability memes, but stability is a necessary thing, you wouldn't want those Switch games crashing would you?

Also, I'm pretty sure a Netflix app will come, your movies will be there.
Hulu, Netflix, Crackle, that stuff.
 

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One thing leads to the other. It starts with a small webkit exploit and it keeps going up and up until eventually there is piracy.
And also, a flawed system is a bad system, Nintendo isn't incompetent, they're just fixing bugs and holes.
We make stability memes, but stability is a necessary thing, you wouldn't want those Switch games crashing would you?

Also, I'm pretty sure a Netflix app will come, your movies will be there.
Hulu, Netflix, Crackle, that stuff.
They could make a simple filter. That's it. Oh, and I don't have a Netflix subscription.

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Quick question: Can we fucking stop this thread and these shitty 13 page long arguments?
 

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They could make a simple filter. That's it. Oh, and I don't have a Netflix subscription.

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Quick question: Can we fucking stop this thread and these shitty 13 page long arguments?
They can't make a simple filter, more simpler means more simpler to bypass.
 

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Funny enough about dumping roms in the EU. It's actually not specified how legal that is. There are two articles that fight each other about that. How it is to try your software with the rom and how legal it is to play the rom yourself dumped.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32009L0024

Article 5.2 say it's perfectly fine.
Article 5.3 say it's perfectly fine to use a ROM to build emulators, hacks etc.

HOWEVER

Article 6 say that you aren't allowed to do anything that might hurt the original rights ownership or copyright like making cracks.
But if you need to decrypt/crack something to get your product to work. It's legal. (Perfect example is DeCSS, DVDJon made it since he couldn't play his DVD on Linux. Therefore removing the copyprotection was legal.)

EDIT: So no, you aren't allowed to download any ROMS since it's a violation against the right owner. But dumping them yourselves are fine as long as you own the original product.
Yeah same law here. You can copy every movie, song and game as long as you yourself own it and don't make a profit of it.
 
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Don't have a Netflix/Hulu/Crackle subscription? So what videos are you going to watch? The ones you pirated off torrents? And why not watch them on a regular tablet with a real media player or on your phone or get an AndroidTV device or AppleTV if that is your cup of tea. Your argument is so flawed it's hilarious.
How about you search up a thing called YouTube?
 

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Jesus christ, jumping from the first to the last page of this thread, it feels like a bomb went off.

I want homebrew on my Switch too, I get it. But hacking a Switch isn't just an open route for homebrew, it's also an open route for piracy. Homebrew isn't harmless, it's an open door for pirates to also bring along content, or get closer to doing so. You need to acknowledge that and understand that it's 100% logical for Nintendo to want to seal off any vulnerabilities. We're not entitled to homebrew or vulnerabilities. Even if we don't support piracy, hacking a console makes that system much more vulnerable to piracy. Homebrew can do a lot of bad for NIntendo, it's not harmless.
 

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Who cares? This threads point is moot. If they want to sell their exploits let them, because there will always be more exploits. With enough interest the switch will be hacked.
Actually thinking about it more, this type of thinking is a cancer on this community. Making a wall if shame? Seriously? Where's the F-ing report button because this thread needs to be closed.
 

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Well this derailed massively. Keep things on topic, kthnx.

By a business standpoint, the HackerONE program is quite a smart initiative by Nintendo. Money is a great driving force, and it helps their stuff stay secure. For the people upsetted by the fact that "muh switchhax won't happen cuz GREED", chill out, cuz A) the scene is more than determined enough to eventually get piracy, seeing as how the 3DS and Wii U were both inevitably cracked. and B) Nintendo isn't catering to the homebrew community. They DO NOT want that. So of course they're going to try all avenues to prevent it. It's common sense for them.
 

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That moment when you realize that OP is a 27 year old man with the attitude of a 10 year old and you now start to pity him because he can't afford a cheap tablet to fill his YouTube fix. Most of the stuff on YouTube is crap anyways, rarely any good original content. Most of it is uploads of copyrighted material (music, movies, TV shows) which is piracy and OP probably thought it was kosher? Either way, I think Nintendo will eventually bring YouTube to the Switch.

Well this derailed massively. Keep things on topic, kthnx.

By a business standpoint, the HackerONE program is quite a smart initiative by Nintendo. Money is a great driving force, and it helps their stuff stay secure. For the people upsetted by the fact that "muh switchhax won't happen cuz GREED", chill out, cuz A) the scene is more than determined enough to eventually get piracy, seeing as how the 3DS and Wii U were both inevitably cracked. and B) Nintendo isn't catering to the homebrew community. They DO NOT want that. So of course they're going to try all avenues to prevent it. It's common sense for them.
I just wanna hit that like button so hard till it breaks a hole through the GBATemp servers and creates a wormhole into parallel universes, so I can hit that like button there too and eventually make the universe collapse on itself. Well said!
 
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So basically.. TL;DR of this entire thread:

HackerOne is a good program for nintendo and experienced hackers who want to earn money, this keeps their device safe from piracy and stuff.
--Its a bad thing for the people who want Homebrew which brings me to the next point..

Once you buy an electronic device, it is YOURS completely, you "should" be able to do whatever you want with it, if you want to install linux on it, or transform it into a car GPS, you -should- be able to (providing the hardware can do it ofc..)
HOWEVER using software licensed by Nintendo (such as the Nintendo Switch operating system) falls under THEIR protection and does not bind law to allow you to do custom stuff with that, so it is NOT within our right to be able to make Homebrew software on it.
So in a way, this entire sub (Switch - Hacking & Homebrew) is all within the "black hat hackers" territory, the ones who DON'T want to be paid and basically aim for an open device.. Piracy is often a side effect of this (sad or not)..
 

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So basically.. TL;DR of this entire thread:

HackerOne is a good program for nintendo and experienced hackers who want to earn money, this keeps their device safe from piracy and stuff.
--Its a bad thing for the people who want Homebrew which brings me to the next point..

Once you buy an electronic device, it is YOURS completely, you "should" be able to do whatever you want with it, if you want to install linux on it, or transform it into a car GPS, you -should- be able to (providing the hardware can do it ofc..)
HOWEVER using software licensed by Nintendo (such as the Nintendo Switch operating system) falls under THEIR protection and does not bind law to allow you to do custom stuff with that, so it is NOT within our right to be able to make Homebrew software on it.
So in a way, this entire sub (Switch - Hacking & Homebrew) is all within the "black hat hackers" territory, the ones who DON'T want to be paid and basically aim for an open device.. Piracy is often a side effect of this (sad or not)..
Yeah, the device is yours, Nintendo doesn't care if you use as a paperweight, a punching bag, soccer ball, target for shooting practice, have sex on top of it, smash it with a hammer, blow it up, etc. But once you start modifying their code/service to do something they didn't license you to do, they get upset. Want to be in the clear? Write your own OS and hardware drivers and HALs and replace the Switch stock software with your custom OS, etc. How? Flash it via hardware. Nintendo won't care then because none of the code is theirs.
 

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