So counterfeit NES Classics are out now

danielretrogamer · Jul 25, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
UPDATE: IT HAS ARRIVED -TWO MONTHS EARLY
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I just got home so i haven't opened it yet, but I'll be taking pictures of whatever you ask for. If you have ideas for what to check out (ie, what happens when i plug it into a computer) then go ahead and give me a shout. This if my PC if that's of any importance. i don't have linux on it.

The controller does not have Nintendo logo?
I hate when chinese can't pack boxes well and just use a plastic bag so the box gets damaged... a mint (even if repro) box would be nice.
About the "mp4 chips", I do not recall any "MP4" player back in the day with HDMI (or even 480p) video out. Most only had a 240p AV out, even the better quality ones, HDMI was not a thing back then. So the "Crassic" must have an upscaler/extra video processor. I have a cheap Hamy FC PORTABLE that, to my surprise, outputs 480p via composite.
The chinese usually do not charge a lot for the products for no reason, so I hope the price they were asking means there is some quality on it. And considering it was the first/almost beta version, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a software update, even if only avaliable on next gen.
They are for sure still working on the software, since they are still developing the FAMILY COMPUTER "Crassic".

danielretrogamer · Jul 25, 2017

an update with info in case anyone else is looking for this:
http://imgur.com/a/jQKT1
Fake vs real (not my pics, I do not own one)

Also, some folks already noticed there are ALREADY 2 versions of the Crassic with different "euro boxes" and slightly different software. Latest version does not have stupid boot screen on it.
And there are rumors other chinese factories are trying to "clone the clone" because there is just too much money to be made. So clone wars reached the digital consoles generation, and just like we got tons of (roughly the same) NOAC consoles, we will have (probably) more then one NES CLASSIC clone, maybe from different factories, but all competing to be as close as the real thing as possible.

Futurdreamz · Jul 25, 2017

The second controller is one I bought at the same time, it did not come with the Crassic. Mine doesn't have the nasty-ass "welCome" boot screen.

One of those competitors better have an actual Allwinner CPU in it. But I suspect the quality will just get worse and worse until the police raids start.

sharkie545 · Jul 28, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
The second controller is one I bought at the same time, it did not come with the Crassic. Mine doesn't have the nasty-ass "welCome" boot screen.

One of those competitors better have an actual Allwinner CPU in it. But I suspect the quality will just get worse and worse until the police raids start.

Just to give you an update. I contact the seller about problems. They were no help.
So I opened a case on aliexpress, aliexpress sided with me and the videos/evidence (poor counterfeit) gave me my money back 100$

. Not sure if the seller is a robot or doesn't speak english but he just keeps replying to my questions with the same generic response and same bad english.

"Dear friend,
so sorry that you are unsatisfied with our product.
This product sells good and receives seldom complaint.
If you're really not satisfied with this item, we would like to give you a discount on your next new order at our store to make you happy.
Is that OK with you?
Your understanding and support will be highly appreciated!
Wait for your reply soon.
Regards!"

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

...I should do that. I already confirmed delivery, but I think I can still file. How did you file the dispute?

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

Well I requested a partial refund for $60US. The fact of the matter is I knew it was fake, but I was led to believe it was a better quality fake. $20US is still a decent value for the shell, which I fully intend to re-use.

sharkie545 · Jul 28, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
Well I requested a partial refund for $60US. The fact of the matter is I knew it was fake, but I was led to believe it was a better quality fake. $20US is still a decent value for the shell, which I fully intend to re-use.

Yep, just make sure you add evidence/video. Seller will be no help and just send that same message after a day or two. Eventually aliexrpress steps in and they will side with you if evidence is good.

DaFixer · Jul 28, 2017

That "better" NES classic mini clone looks really nice to build a nice RetroPie console.

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

sharkie545 said:
Yep, just make sure you add evidence/video. Seller will be no help and just send that same message after a day or two. Eventually aliexrpress steps in and they will side with you if evidence is good.

Hopefully my evidence is good, I'll try to add more this weekend. I have four days before the seller HAS to respond.

I'm hoping he would rather agree to a partial refund off the bat instead of letting this escalate to aliexpress.

the_randomizer · Jul 28, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
Hopefully my evidence is good, I'll try to add more this weekend. I have four days before the seller HAS to respond.

I'm hoping he would rather agree to a partial refund off the bat instead of letting this escalate to aliexpress.

May I ask why you wanted to get one of these, knowing the risk of getting them from a low-grade Chinese retailer?

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

the_randomizer said:
May I ask why you wanted to get one of these, knowing the risk of getting them from a low-grade Chinese retailer?

Because 1. I really wanted a NES Classic and didn't want to pay $400 and 2. The spanish forum I linked to claimed to have proof that this was a 1:1 replica that used the exact same CPU and software as the real thing.

Honestly I'll be buying the real SNES Classic no matter what, even if I have to pay $200 to a scalper.

the_randomizer · Jul 28, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
Because 1. I really wanted a NES Classic and didn't want to pay $400 and 2. The spanish forum I linked to claimed to have proof that this was a 1:1 replica that used the exact same CPU and software as the real thing.

I see, fair enough I suppose. Someone needs to call those losers on that forum out, then.

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

the_randomizer said:
I see, fair enough I suppose. Someone needs to call those losers on that forum out, then.

There's already a witch hunt that got a couple members banned.

the_randomizer · Jul 28, 2017

Futurdreamz said:
There's already a witch hunt that got a couple members banned.

Good, because idiots who screw other people like that deserve to be banned. Sucks though, I hope you can get a refund or something.

Futurdreamz · Jul 28, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Good, because idiots who screw other people like that deserve to be banned. Sucks though, I hope you can get a refund or something.

I'm placing my hope on the partial refund. It is still a good shell which I'm planning on sticking a Pi in, and I would've had to pay for the shell anyways; no point in trying to get it for free unless I had no choice.

Sliter · Jul 29, 2017

Futurdreamz said:

I saw this acidetally times ago and I wa sinterested .. I know this must not me much than a fancy polystation, butreally with that good looking is something hahh
what si anyway? a famiclone? an android box? I saw a "ps2" that was a android box thing...

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