Hacking [Poll] Bans and "send information about the console to Nintendo"

EmuAGR · May 25, 2017

novren said:
on the google form, the EUR sector of the "which region is your 3ds" seems to be growing. Looks like they're now banning more EUR people, or EUR people are starting to notice.ç

As of 5 minutes ago, I hadn't been banned. Will check again in a while.

EUR people were sleeping when the bans started. It's afternoon in Europe now, people are noticing them.

Karuley · May 25, 2017

is it gonna be possible for us to sign our own lfcs b as legal since b9s is now a thing?
or are we gonna be stuck with the same method as before?

Lacius · May 25, 2017

kingaz said:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-ban-wave.471777/#post-7333662

Granted, the rep might have been misinformed. Also, this isn't a hyperban like the Sun/Moon early access bans. At least I think those were hyperbans? In any case, we can still access the eshop.

There were reps who said the Pokemon Sun/Moon bans were also temporary, so take that with a grain of salt. Nintendo has also said in a statement, "This ban is effective immediately and requests to remove the ban will not be processed," which seems to suggest that it's permanent. Considering these things, the fact that Nintendo has apparently been working very hard to setup this banwave, and the fact that Nintendo has no incentive to unban CFW users, it's probably permanent.

The only odd thing is that banned users still have access to the eShop. I personally think that says less about the duration of the ban and more about their internal decision making process regarding the kind of ban they wanted to impose. Ignoring the Pokemon Sun/Moon bans, there are historical accounts of 002-0102 bans that have been permanent but without an eShop ban.

novren · May 25, 2017

EmuAGR said:
EUR people were sleeping when the bans started. It's afternoon in Europe now, people are noticing them.

I know, that's what I said.
Still not banned tho.

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Lacius said:
There were reps who said the Pokemon Sun/Moon bans were also temporary, so take that with a grain of salt. Nintendo has also said in a statement, "This ban is effective immediately and requests to remove the ban will not be processed," which seems to suggest that it's permanent. Considering these things, the fact that Nintendo has apparently been working very hard to setup this banwave, and the fact that Nintendo has no incentive to unban CFW users, it's probably permanent.

The only odd thing is that banned users still have access to the eShop. I personally think that says less about the duration of the ban and more about their internal decision making process regarding the kind of ban they wanted to impose. Ignoring the Pokemon Sun/Moon bans, there are historical accounts of 002-0102 bans that have been permanent but without an eShop ban.

Can you link me to the statement?

NeroVero · May 25, 2017

Afaik, I haven't been banned yet.
However, that was when i was getting dressed for school so idk now.

proflayton123 · May 25, 2017

Only two of my consoles got banned currently yet the rest are ok, i think for me is because i shared another CTCert from my unbanned console, but its been fixed now for me using a spare LFCSB

Aurora Wright · May 25, 2017

Looks like this is probably the biggest factor (if it's not the only one) which gets you a ban (since it's now roughly 1/5 chances of ban with it off, and 1/2 with it on).

Lacius · May 25, 2017

novren said:
Can you link me to the statement?

You can find it in the first post: https://gbatemp.net/threads/regarding-the-recent-3ds-banwave.471781/

The website this was pulled from keeps changing. For the current version: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wfc/en_na/ds/results.jsp?error_code=002-0102&system=3DS&locale=lang

If you Google search the quote, you can see where it was on that page before.

novren · May 25, 2017

Aurora Wright said:
Looks like this is probably the biggest factor (if it's not the only one) which gets you a ban (since it's now roughly 1/5 chances of ban with it off, and 1/2 with it on).

Still, more factors might be in place. Nintendo might be banning for several reasons, among which the easiest to see would be spotpass.

Deleted-384698 · May 25, 2017

I have 2 units with B9S, both with this option on. One N3DS XL, one 2DS, neither banned. It might be of note that I never had to use any method to unban them in the past. I now turned the option off though, to be safe.

novren · May 25, 2017

Lacius said:
You can find it in the first post: https://gbatemp.net/threads/regarding-the-recent-3ds-banwave.471781/

The website this was pulled from keeps changing. For the current version: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wfc/en_na/ds/results.jsp?error_code=002-0102&system=3DS&locale=lang

If you Google search the quote, you can see where it was on that page before.

Well, I give up. Now it says it can't connect to an access point?

The Nintendo 3DS is unable to connect to an Access Point. What to do will depend on where you are connecting from:

Wireless home network

Hotspot

Connecting from a wireless home network:

Make sure that the Nintendo 3DS system is within 30 feet of the wireless access point and facing in its general direction.

Make sure that any other interfering devices, such as microwaves and cordless phones, are turned off.

Connecting from a Hotspot

Ensure the Hotspot location does not require an internet browser to setup an account, accept a use agreement, or enter a password before accessing their Wi-Fi service. If the location requires any of these items, you will not be able to connect to the internet with your Nintendo 3DS system.

Make sure that the Nintendo 3DS system is within 30 feet of the wireless access point and facing in its general direction. Signal strength can vary, depending on where the access point's signal is coming from. (Please do not sit or stand in places that will interfere with the location's customers or staff.)

Orient the Nintendo 3DS so that your body or other objects (such as walls, plants, furniture, and other people) are not blocking the signal. Also, make sure there is no interference from wireless phones (cell phones are okay).

If the connection continues to fail, this Hotspot may have their router set up in a manner that is not compatible with the system. We recommend trying a different location.

This makes no sense, even for Nintendo. Sheesh.

SkyDX · May 25, 2017

@Aurora Wright Say could changing the firmware string along with Spotpass be a factor?

Aurora Wright · May 25, 2017

SkyDX said:
@Aurora Wright Say could changing the firmware string along with Spotpass be a factor?

That's purely cosmetical (a sprintf in system settings), so no, that's never sent

SkyDX · May 25, 2017

Aurora Wright said:
That's purely cosmetical (a sprintf in system settings), so no, that's never sent

Okay alright that's off the table then. It was just an idea I had when I realized that it does spill over to Badge Arcade but I have no knowledge about the inner workings of the OS.

Aurora Wright · May 25, 2017

SkyDX said:
Okay alright that's off the table then. It was just an idea I had when I realized that it does spill over to Badge Arcade but I have no knowledge about the inner workings of the OS.

No that only happens because gateway does it wrong™

Karuley · May 25, 2017

any chance there's gonna be a work around in luma for the ban other than injecting a new lfcs b?

touholic · May 25, 2017

Aurora Wright said:
No that only happens because gateway does it wrong™

Sorry for double posting,but is there any way to analyze the information that the console sends to nintendo?

Aurora Wright · May 25, 2017

Karuley said:
any chance there's gonna be a work around in luma for the ban other than injecting a new lfcs b?

no

Deleted-384698 · May 25, 2017

I have also purchased my games actually, which also might be of note. I didn't pirate my games.

novren · May 25, 2017

sunnaryt said:
I have also purchased my games actually, which also might be of note. I didn't pirate my games.

But have you got cfw?

Hacking [Poll] Bans and "send information about the console to Nintendo"

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