UPDATE: Regarding the recent 3DS banwave

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It appears that users are being banned from 3DS online services, en masse. There's no direct cause right now, and seemingly no linking factor. This post is meant as an announcement for users, to be wary, and that GBAtemp will keep you updated as soon as more info rolls in. If you have been banned, please post in the thread below, and we will try to keep tabs on the situation. To be extra sure, it can't hurt to turn off your 3DS's wireless capabilities, so you might as well do that for now.

Edit 1: it appears that e-Shop access isn't restricted if you are banned.

Edit 2: A caller to Nintendo reported that the company said this ban is due to "unauthorized software usage".

Edit 3: @LinkSoraZelda is collecting info. Contact him if you are banned.

Edit 4: Click and fill this out if you were BANNED.

Edit 5:
[11:28:19 PM] Clector: Curiously the page of that error in Nintendo Support website used to have this:Error Code: 002-0102 Situation: You receive the error code 002-0102 when attempting to connect online. What to Do: If you continue to experience this issue, please contact Nintendo by calling 1-800-255-3700. Representatives are available from 6 a.m. to 7 p.m., Pacific Time, 7 days a week.
[11:28:44 PM] Clector: Now it says this: What to Do: If you are experiencing this error code, your Nintendo 3DS family system has been banned due to unauthorized system modifications, play of unauthorized versions of one or more games, and/or connecting to the official game servers in violation of our terms of service. This ban is effective immediately and requests to remove the ban will not be processed.
Thanks to @Joom

Edit 6: Aurora Wright is taking another poll here

Edit 7: Not a lot is known but

There are bans happening, they are happening in all regions.
All models in the 3ds family seem to be candidates for banning.
There is no indication they will be anything other than permanent.
A game or DLC may end up being a cause but there is no one game or DLC that ties banned users together.
The cause or causes are as yet unknown, though it does seem to be related to modifications. Reports of unmodified consoles being banned are as yet unproven.
The banning is tied to something you can modify, thus you can unban. Doing it while the causes are unknown is likely only going to burn a working token though.
There are semi public tokens out there, Nintendo knows how to browse a forum as well as you so don't be surprised if they also get banned.
It does not seem to be limited to a given base firmware version, it does not seem to be limited to any one custom firmware type. There is some speculation that older hacking methods are not being hit as hard but nothing to confirm this yet.
The data collection could have happened this morning, or it could have been months in the making.
A simple check to see is checking your friends list, by itself it will not ban you.
Some are turning their wifi off. It is doubtful this will be of much use and being banned does not seem to come with any downsides that wifi being off will not also mimic.
You may have escaped a ban thus far but it could happen at any point. It could be that they stop in the future, it has happened on other consoles, but you would be living in hope rather than any particularly well founded logic.
The bans are done on the side of Nintendo's servers rather than your 3ds so there is also that.

If you hack your devices/games then their online functionality may be troubled. This has been known for decades, Nintendo seems to have finally caught up with that.

Please continue to share information with the thread or the links in previous edits.

Update 5/30

HOW TO HELP AVOID BANS (we think)​

If I was to guess from the information we have gathered since the ban wave, it seems likely that they are looking for TitleIDs that don't exist. Homebrew shows up in the activity log as the Download Play app, and fake CIA's show up as just ??????. That last one is what I'm guessing they are looking for.

If you are not banned yet or before you unban yourself, go into your friends list, choose settings, and turn off the option to "show friends what game you are playing." This will prevent you from playing games online with friends, so turn it back on when you wanna game with someone, but ALWAYS keep it off when running custom CIAs. Next, go into system settings -> internet settings -> spotpass, and turn off BOTH options. One is auto download software, the other sends system information to Nintendo. Also, make sure you don't have your favorite title set to something stupid like FBI or any other non-Nintendo CIA.

Its VERY likely that these options are what tipped off Nintendo, but we aren't 100% certain yet. The amount of banned people that had one of these options turned on was over 80% for each. If I was to assume that some of those people overlap, its very possible (but not confirmed) that 100% of banned people in the survey had at least one of those options turned on. I personally had all of them off and I have TONS of reasons for Nintendo to ban me.... yet I am not banned (yet).

Another bit of advice: Only run custom CIAs when offline, and after you close them, run a "legit" game like Smash Bros. or something before shutting down or going back online. This way your most recent title won't show up as a fake CIA

Current Theories as to what causes a ban
* SpotPass Settings: 8 users out of 46 users that were banned have SpotPass completely shut off, or SpotPass only (no friends list visibility)
* Firmware Version (Luma, Nintendo): Literally all reports ranged from 10.2+, I can get exact numbers for this if you'd like, but all firmwares were affected.
* Firmware Type (A9LH, B9S): 44 of the 126 B9S users that answered were banned, pattern was mirrored for A9LH users as well.
* Homebrew Titles such as FBI, HBL, Luma Updater, Themely, and freeShop: Literally about 98% of users both banned and unbanned had some combination of these applications installed. However the common ones were: FBI, HBL, LumaUpdater and NTR.
* Save Modification: Equal amounts of users on both sides have reported save modification in some form, either with PKSM or another save editor
* System Transfers: 188 users said that they had not previously system transfered, 61 of those users were banned; 16 users said they transferred from a hacked console, only three of them received a ban; 13 said they transferred from a stock system and likewise were banned. The rest of our sample did not answer this question.
* Activity Log Information: A majority of those who have not been banned have said they had NOT cleaned their activity logs. I can get exact numbers for this too on request.

This information is just what I've found. Like I said, there could be variables or things we haven't even checked for yet. But these are things that I feel should be disproven, at least with the current dataset we have.

  • From the information that we've gathered from some people that have used a packet sniffer such as WireShark, the following data is sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers as soon as the 3DS connects to the internet:
    • Amount of time spent online (timer stops when either the system is disconnected from the internet, or connection drops out, then starts the timer again in a new session when it reconnects to the internet).
    • The game being played and amount of time spent on it during that session.
    • The console's unique hexadecimal ID used in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB, along with it's RSA-signed signature.
    • The console's serial number in which is broadcasted from the SoC and is hard coded in the SoC.
    • Friend Code generated on the Nintendo 3DS system, if one has been generated.
    • Internet connection status (either online or offline).
    • The Nintendo Network ID, if there is one linked to it.
    • Even if the sending of SpotPass Information is switched off, or even hiding your currently playing games. It does not prevent the system from sending currently playing information to Nintendo's online gaming servers, it only hides it from your friends in your friend list (like being invisible on the forum, while mods and admins can still see you). Why? Because even people without a Friend Code on their system have been getting banned too!

  • The following data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers:
    • The data from the Nintendo 3DS's Activity Log. Oddly enough, while Nintendo does explicitly state that they collect Activity Log data, they're actually referring to their own server's Activity Log, which always tracks every console's online activity, and keeps a record of them that is stored forever. And is only collected in increments of data through a timer and a currently playing list.
    • Games or apps that have not been played, regardless if they're legitimate or not. You only get tracked when you're online and using that game or app.
    • Using games or apps while offline. Even though it is stored on the 3DS console's Activity Log, that data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers.
    • Custom Firmware. Though we can't rule out the possibility of them releasing a 3DS update in the future that adds such function to collect MD5 hashes of files and FIRM data and send them to Nintendo online gaming servers (which would also be updated in a maintenance).

  • Things that people think what happens with consoles, but really doesn't:
    • "LocalFriendCodeSeedB is transferred to the system upon doing a system transfer". This is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB remains on the system and does not move to another system.
    • "The console generates a LocalFriendCodeSeedB upon first startup". Again, this is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is made during the manufacturing process at Foxconn. It is generated at the factory, flashed to the NAND flash memory storage, then created as an account on Nintendo's online gaming server and Nintendo eShop server immediately when being manufactured. It is absolutely impossible to generate a LocalFriendCodeSeedB and be able to connect to Nintendo's online gaming server and/or Nintendo eShop server, even if you knew the RSA generation key for it. You'd end up with Error Code 002-0102 "This console's online services have been restricted by Nintendo" if you even tried (the error can either mean two things: The hexadecimal ID doesn't exist on the server, or the request to access the hexadecimal ID has been denied which in other words... banned). So a LocalFriendCodeSeedB generator will NEVER happen! Because it's not worth doing, if it can't connect.
    • Switching off "Currently Playing" information. Once again, this does not hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only hides it from your friends.
    • Switching off SpotPass. Nope, this too doesn't hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only opts-out of receiving SpotPass data, sorry.

So pretty much the bottom line is, if anyone has been using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop while online in the past, guess what? You're screwed! And it is only a matter of time before your console's unique hexadecimal ID in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is banned from Nintendo's online gaming server. This will mean, your console can't access the Friend List or play any online functions in games.

If you have been online while using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop and haven't been banned yet, that's because Nintendo hasn't caught up to you yet. They're still going through each unique hexadecimal ID's Activity Log on their server, and by Activity Log, I mean the Activity Log on their server, not the 3DS console's activity log. And it will be only a matter of time before you're banned too.

Thanks to @Platinum Lucario @MadMageKefka and @ShadowEO !
 

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Hi, do you know if this problem is related to boot9strap?
Are old methods (Luma + Emunand or Luma + A9LH) also recognizable by Nintendo?
There are people who have reported being banned with A9LH.

Also, Luma is not an "old method" (nor is Emunand, for that matter), but one that runs in combination with B9S, A9LH, or Menuhax.
 

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hmm so any method of even changing the serial number of the console wouldnt work????
i mean i know nintendo did a banwave when pokemon sun and moon were released and you could go over it by switching the serial number
That was a console ban, so thats easy to circumvent, but this is an online ban.
 

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Then you're not banned
phew, so what are we to do to protect our 3ds'es from not getting banned?
i never use any kind of cheats.

but i do have stuff like FBI installed.
and a few out of region games.

currently on b9s+luma, is it not safe to go online (to update) anymore?
someone here stated they lost all their previously installed DLC, how'd that happen? because of the ban ? o.o
 

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worst case scenerio this becomes like the xbox 360 way of getting online with all those sketchy sellers all just to play online for a couple of hours :shit:
 

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Curious to see how many value online on the 3ds. Wonder if it will be like those times the 360s got banned and various kids declared them worthless.

Well... I'm banned even though I only used online ONE TIME
good to go ninty
EDIT: And no I didn't cheat
Nintendo is acting like a child now, oh you CFW'ed your 3DS? *cries* NO! NO! STAAAAAHP! *cries more* Mom tell them to stop doing that! *ban*

If you hack your online future using the official services is suspect, if it even exists at all. This has been true since multi user dungeons, and I am sure I could find an earlier example still.
Whining, bitching, pissing and moaning just makes you look like a fool.
 

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Panick not folks. It's appearantly ony 30 days. Says the nintendo reps anyway.
Did you hear that from a different rep or are you referring to the person who said that earlier in the thread?


Looks like your all doomed turning off the wifi now won't do anything if you have went online ever with the console its just a matter of time before it gets banned
Thank you for adding to the discussion
 

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Panick not folks. It's appearantly ony 30 days. Says the nintendo reps anyway.
I just don't understand how they're banning us presumably for modifying our systems, yet the ban is temporary. The logic behind a move like that is baffling. Our consoles won't magically be unmodded after 30 days.
 

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Did you hear that from a different rep or are you referring to the person who said that earlier in the thread?



Thank you for adding to the discussion

For reference I mentioned the 30 day thing, but that was from a previous ban in December 2016, that was more centered on Gateway shenanigans, though still a 002-0102 ban. When I called Nintendo on Tuesday, they didn't tell me how long the ban would be, they don't tell you, they're not at liberty to tell you.
 

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I just don't understand how they're banning us presumably for modifying our systems, yet the ban is temporary. The logic behind a move like that is baffling. Our consoles won't magically be unmodded after 30 days.
Exactly, and if they don't tell you that's why, or if it's permanent or not they'd either unban you to ban you again, or just make it permanent anyway. That's pointless.
 
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Instead of error codes Nintendo should just send a message to the 3DS system:

1st warning:
"We have detected illegal activity on your 3DS system, If you care about your system and online options, we suggest to remove any thirth party software and get your system back to normal, If we continue to detect illegal activity your system will be banned from online services and/or eShop access"

Final ban:
"We still have detected illegal activity on your 3DS system, you already got a warning about this, your system is now banned for all online services and/or eShop access!"
"The ban is permanent and tight to your console ID, IF you want to get all banned services back, you have to purchase a new 3DS system"
"Unfortunatly, since your NNID is tight to your previous console and online services are blocked you will have to call support to unlink it and relink it to the new console"
"When relinked your NNID to the new system, you're NNID will get banned because you took part in illegal activitys, to prevent this, you will need to make a new NNID and rebuy all your online purchases"

"Yes, you all who do illegal activities on your 3DS system, YOU all print money for us!"

"Thank you for helping us"
 

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a friend of mine has b9s and luma 7.0 he has not been banned and currently he is playing mario kart 7 its an illegitimate cia and he claims that there are no players online, currently he will go testing monster hunter xx (jp game english patched and ill post the report)

edit: there are multiplayer rooms on monster hunter xx online but not on mario kart
 
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For reference I mentioned the 30 day thing, but that was from a previous ban in December 2016, that was more centered on Gateway shenanigans, though still a 002-0102 ban. When I called Nintendo on Tuesday, they didn't tell me how long the ban would be, they don't tell you, they're not at liberty to tell you.
Yeah, that's why I asked- I figure that nintendo is unlikely to actually say anything unless they're specifically using it as a warning.

They are banning a large user base of players alot of people have hacked their 3ds here
Yes.

EDIT: I'm seeing the access point error text on the 002-0102 error page again.
 
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