Nintendo, Please Fix Your Repair Center

A friend of the site mailed in to let us know about their troubles when dealing with their brand new Nintendo Switch and the UK Nintendo Repair Center.

First of all, a bit of back story for context. We will refer to our friend as 'NintyFan'.

NintyFan got their shiny new Switch on release day, and for the first week or so everything was fine.
NintyFan tells us that after a while, the battery indicator on their Switch would drop from 100% charge to 1% after only 20 minutes or so of usage. Even though the Switch's battery indicator stated 1%, the device would continue to work for another 2-3 hours, the problem is it would keep trying to go into sleep mode, and if it succeeded, it would have to be put on charge again to wake up, even though it still had enough juice for hours of play.

Frustrated that their new device wasn't functioning as it should, NintyFan scoured the web looking for a solution to the problem and came across pages of other Switch owners with the exact same issue.
You can see the thread on Nintendo's official support forums here.

Over 200 comments across 17 pages are filled with Switch owners all with the same issue. Their battery indicator was giving drastically incorrect readings.


A user on the support thread called Chris wrote:
I have the exact problem u have. My switch will go from 100% charge to 1% in about 1 hour and 40 min, so about 1 minute of game time per percent. Except that once it reaches 1% I can still play Zelda for another hour and 20 minutes. It's strange because this didn't happen until 2 days ago. Before that the displayed battery percentage seemed to be correct. Just hope it's a firmware issue as you mentioned and not a sign of a bad battery.
Another user called Ragnarleon wrote:
I have the same problem, i charge the console up to 100%, i turn it off for around 10-15 min when i turn it on it says 67%... if im playing when it reaches 1% it can lasts to 1h or more.
im testing the method that drains the battery twice or more and see if fixs the problem, will post results.
And member ViperX wrote:
Hi Neo, same as you bro.. after 2.2.0 i experience this. I believe it can be fixed by firmware as my battery can last 3hrs plus for botw. The problem is just the incorrect display of the battery percentage. Some users report even after given a new switch it happens again after a few weeks.


This support thread was created on 9th March 2017, less than a week from when Nintendo released the Switch on the 3rd. The latest post is from just yesterday, 23rd May with user Marcelo reporting:
I have the same issue, my Nintendo Switch appear to have 2 batteries.. or at least is how it behavior. When it was 100% charged, I've started to play Zelda in handheld mode, and then the system alerts that all the battery is gone in aprox 1h30 of play.

Then I fully turn off the console, rest it for 3 min and turn it on again. The battery it's now on 52%... maybe it's a problem on the firmware which cannot interpret the correct level of battery.

Another detail is that yesterday I've fully depleted the battery and recharged it for all night long. Then, when I look to the battery level, it's in 100% level. But then, I turn it off for a few minutes then turn it on again.. and it was in 52% again.. then, I've recharged it for an hour and it's full again.. that's really annoying!


After 17 pages of many Switch owners trading tips with each other for a potential fix, or hoping for a remedy via a future firmware update, it's worth noting that the number 1 pinned BEST comment on the thread comes from user NOA_MOD_JEN, who offers the following advice:
For everyone having problems with the battery life or battery indicator on the Nintendo Switch, we really would like to fix your systems and get you back to playing your games. Please contact us at Nintendo Support, so we can see what needs to be done!

Nintendo Support

--Jenn


NintyFan was hesitant to send in their Switch to the UK repair center as they had over 50 hours of play time in Zelda and had heard they might lose the save files if they returned the device for repairs, as currently, at the time of writing, there is still no way to back up a save file from the device.

On the 28th of April Nintendo UK received NintyFan's Switch. This was 26 days ago. Since then NintyFan's update on Nintendo's UK repair page states:

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NintyFan called up the service center today for the third time to see what the hold up could possibly be, as previously the repair status said Repair held - awaiting parts, on May 5th.


What follows is the transcript of the call to Nintendo UK Customer Services, which is listed as the contact number under the repair site's info page:

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Rep: Good afternoon you are through to Nintendo customer support, you are through to REMOVED, how may I help you?

NintyFan: Afternoon REMOVED, I am trying to find out what is going on with the repair of my Switch

Rep: I'll be able to help with that, just confirm for me your full name address and postcode

NintyFan
: Name & address & postcode

Rep: Brilliant, lets have a look at this for you

NintyFan
: You've had it for like a month

Rep: It's an issue with the battery is that correct?

NintyFan
: Yes they told me they were going to send me a new one and I've phoned every week now for the last 3 weeks, now it (repair tracking site) just keeps saying awaiting parts..

Rep: The reason it says that is we are waiting for a replacement console to come in ourselves

NintyFan
: How long does that take

Rep: Erm.. it can take 2 to 4 weeks we are waiting for them to come in from the European headquarters in Germany

NintyFan
: Right..

Rep: We are expecting them to come in shortly I've been advised by our service center, so we can get these kinds of issues resolved

NintyFan
: At this point you've had it nearly as long as I have, it's not even mine it's my sons, I just think erm.. In America they get them back within 5 working days

Rep: Usually our turn around time is within 3-7 working days, erm, it is due to us awaiting stock from the headquarters in Germany

NintyFan
: What's the time frame on that, can you tell me what day I am going to get my Switch back?

Rep: I wouldn't be able to tell you definitely what time when you are going to get your Switch back currently

NintyFan
: You've had it a month, you know what I mean, one whole month, like, I could've bought a new one and just got a refund on that one instead of sending it back

Rep: No I understand I do apologise..

NintyFan
: I know it's not your fault - I'm just getting really frustrated now with phoning every week and every week getting told "we're waiting for parts, we're waiting for.." I mean the parts are coming from Germany, can they not make them quick enough, or? I just don't understand what the delay is..

Rep: We don't have information as to when they are coming, currently, we are expecting them shortly, that information we have from the service center, they are expecting them shortly now, before they weren't sure

NintyFan
: How long is shortly?

Rep: They didn't give us a timeframe on that, erm that is likely due to be cause they received..

NintyFan
: I mean your just telling me the same thing you've told me every week for the last 3 weeks

Rep: If we did have more of an update for you obviously sir we would give that to you

NintyFan
: have you got a manager there, are you the manager?

Rep: I can see if they are available to speak to yourself

NintyFan
: Yes please I'd like to speak to the manager and I'd like some contact information for complaints as well

Rep: I can give you the complaints information, erm that will be our Windsor head office, erm, and that is likely the information my manager would give you as well

NintyFan
: Yeah.. yeah

Rep: They have access to the same information I have basically, in regards to this particular issue

NintyFan
: Yeah you just look on the computer and tell me it's awaiting parts

Rep: Bare with me
Rep: What I would do as well, erm, just check if it has been done previously, erm, I can see actually that it has already been prioritized, if it comes in we'll get it to you as soon as possible

NintyFan
: I know it's not your fault and I know there is a problem with the amount of stock available, but I think a month with any company, I mean I've sent a dualshock 4 back to Sony and had it back (5 days), a brand new one in the time you've had my Switch.. (26 days)

Rep: I understand your frustration with this, have you got a pen and paper..

NintyFan
: Yeah I have

Rep: I'll give you the address and complaints, it's Nintendo customer support, and that's PO Box 4678

NintyFan
: Have they not got an email?

Rep: The email will be our usual email address it will come through here and not to head office

NintyFan
: 4678

Rep: Yeah

NintyFan
: Yeah
NintyFan: Ok well erm, ok if I don't hear anything I'll give you a call next week, again, and we'll probably have the same chat, again

Rep: Obviously they are up in Windsor, erm, so I'll give you the complete address before you go (laughs)

NintyFan
: Yeah

Rep: S for sierra, alpha lima 4, 9, D for delta, Z for zulu

NintyFan
: Okie doke.. I don't appreciate the way you are laughing about it, you know what I mean?

Rep: I er, do apologise if you thought I was laughing at the situation

NintyFan
: What's your name is it REMOVED?

Rep: Yes my name's REMOVED yeah

NintyFan
: Thanks very much for your time REMOVED I'll erm call again next week

Rep: Erm, As I say hopefully you'll have an update before then in regards to this

NintyFan
: It will be a whole month from Friday, so, that's got to be some sort of record

Rep: As I say I can completely understand your frustration with this

NintyFan
: Are a lot of people calling you up asking where is their Switch?

Rep: Sorry?

NintyFan
: Are a lot of people calling you up asking where their Switch is?

Rep: We get general enquiries regarding repairs but I'm not at liberty to tell you how many people I've spoken to regarding Switches or other consoles at all

NintyFan
: Have you not had any Switch deliveries in the last month?

Rep: I don't have access to that information

NintyFan
: How can you not have access to that information, you work at the repair center, I'm waiting for a repair, how can you not know that?
NintyFan: How can no-one in that building tell me when my Switch..

Rep: The repair center is elsewhere
Rep: The repair center is based in Coventry (City in England)

NintyFan
: So why am I talking to you then? Can you put me through to the repair center

Rep: They don't deal directly with customers

NintyFan
: They won't speak to anyone?

Rep: They don't deal directly with customers

NintyFan
: It's a fucking joke this

-CALL END-
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I have heard the recording myself and can confirm that this transcript is a direct copy of the conversation.
When I asked NintyFan why he recorded the conversation, he told me that he "is sick of being given the runaround by Nintendo" and that there is an obvious problem with certain Switches that still hasn't been addressed by Nintendo, and that he literally has no idea when he will ever get the repaired Switch or a replacement back from Nintendo's UK repair center.



Have you had any issues like this with your Switch? What do you think of Nintendo's repair service?
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Maybe Nintendo need to take a page from their own book from 1991:)

Lol, that second guy is such a stereotypical nerd. Who on earth would be bullied by him?

This Switch thing is a problem Nintendo needs to fix. Its like the typical double speak, avoiding to be direct and saying we don't have access to that information, to avoid blame. That person would make a great politician.
 
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Had same issue. Got my system back 2 days ago. Sent in cause battery would occasionally only charge to 76%. Also sent in my joy con same time and that was back in couple days. Switch on other hand took 3 and a half weeks. One point I got a Email saying it would be delayed due to a incident with my system. Least I got it back with all my saves
 
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i would have loved to hear the telephone conversation that was had minus the personal details beeped out. that is quite bad for ninfriendo to produce lack of updates and wait a minimum of 1 month and considering its germany they could ship in small batches to resolve the issue.. maybe its time to give up the console and switch to another (pun intended)!
 
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i would have loved to hear the telephone conversation that was had minus the personal details beeped out. that is quite bad for ninfriendo to produce lack of updates and wait a minimum of 1 month and considering its germany they could ship in small batches to resolve the issue.. maybe its time to give up the console and switch to another (pun intended)!
This might be a possibilty. I'll see if we can use it but I believe it's illegal to record people without them knowing so we have to be careful.
 

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This might be a possibilty. I'll see if we can use it but I believe it's illegal to record people without them knowing so we have to be careful.
Your posting this out in the open for people to know, if its illegal then its probably better to keep the fact that you recorded the conversation on the down low.
 
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Your posting this out in the open for people to know, if its illegal then its probably better to keep the fact that you recorded the conversation on the down low.
This. It's not like he'll take it to the court or police anyway.
 

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I think Nintendo does consent to being recored. If they say, "This phone call may be recorded for quality......" Then that means they consent, and are also recording it themselves.

I was looking at the laws and from what im getting, you need at least 1 person thats in the conversation to consent for it to be legal, depending where you live.
 
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The UK Nintendo Store and such is run by The Hut Group, IIRC so it's not surprising they offer a horrendous customer service. I'm glad my Switch hasn't run into any serious problems.

John Lewis seems to get a lot of praise to replace products quite quickly.
The repair center isn't run by the hut group it's Nintendo. Nothing related to the Nintendo UK store.
 

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so what i'm reading here is the uk repair center is waiting for stock like half of europe is and they literally can't create it from thin air and the guy on the telephone who's doing all he can trying to explain that there's nothing they can do. all he has is the information he's given too.
and then there's nintyfan who's being a ridiculous customer who's unable to understand what 'its fucking out of stock you dimwit' means

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My experience with Nintendo service have been a little bit of a PITA.
They recommend to send things by post with tracking, insurance, bells and whistles, but they don't cover the costs.
So, last time I put ~10€ and a week of unavailability to send my desynching joycons to the service.
They returned new ones that also desynch.
Now I am thinking should I spend 10€ more and wait another week for new desynching joycons from Nintendo service? How many times? Perhaps better invest that money in completely new joycons from a store?


of course you should send it like that. that way, should it get lost, you're not out of 70 bucks instantly. you're insured.
you can send them in 6 more times before you would have been better off just buying new ones.
of course they're not going to pay for it, its still your decision if you want to risk them being gone forever. they're just advising you to minimize the risk
 

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My experience with Nintendo service have been a little bit of a PITA.
They recommend to send things by post with tracking, insurance, bells and whistles, but they don't cover the costs.
So, last time I put ~10€ and a week of unavailability to send my desynching joycons to the service.
They returned new ones that also desynch.
Now I am thinking should I spend 10€ more and wait another week for new desynching joycons from Nintendo service? How many times? Perhaps better invest that money in completely new joycons from a store?
if you live in germany like you said in your location
i think you should look for rules and laws.., because last time i checked in europe you don't have to pay a shit when dealing with warranties..
they must cover the shipping costs, or at least ask a shipping company to pick up the items from your place.. please go check about this..


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I think Nintendo does consent to being recored. If they say, "This phone call may be recorded for quality......" Then that means they consent, and are also recording it themselves.

I was looking at the laws and from what im getting, you need at least 1 person thats in the conversation to consent for it to be legal, depending where you live.
That's in the state you live in, not worldwide. The general rule for registering phone conversations is that you also have to tell them that you are recording it, otherwise it's illegal.


Also, I don't understand the situation. There are issues with the stock, yes. Why were the logs for the conversation necessary for the context? From everything I've seen so far is that Nintendo made a low amount of production again and now they have a lot of people waiting. They need to make better testing and better stocks.
 
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Sounds to me like Nintendo is more interested in selling new Switches than fixing the ones that have been returned. From the customer's point of view they certainly have a right to be pissed off. Nintendo is wrong not to honor their warranty in a timely manner. But launch hardware sometimes has issues, the early Xbox 360's would overheat and scratch disks.

But then again, the internet is filled with people being recorded, Youtube, and I'm sure many have not consented to being recorded.
Very true. I've sometimes wondered why I never hear cases where the people recording videos like this get sued.

 
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of course you should send it like that. that way, should it get lost, you're not out of 70 bucks instantly. you're insured.
you can send them in 6 more times before you would have been better off just buying new ones.
of course they're not going to pay for it, its still your decision if you want to risk them being gone forever. they're just advising you to minimize the risk

Well since they didn't bother to fix it the first time of course they should pay for everything the second time around.
 

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That's in the state you live in, not worldwide. The general rule for registering phone conversations is that you also have to tell them that you are recording it, otherwise it's illegal.


Also, I don't understand the situation. There are issues with the stock, yes. Why were the logs for the conversation necessary for the context? From everything I've seen so far is that Nintendo made a low amount of production again and now they have a lot of people waiting. They need to make better testing and better stocks.
Im not sure what the recording laws are in UK. Trying to figure out this thing out was a bit confusing. Heres what I found for the US.
https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LAWS-ON-RECORDING-CONVERSATIONS-CHART.pdf

So the answer, it depends on which state laws are applied, depending on jurisdiction. Does federal or state laws apply. If one state is one party consent and the other state is all party consent, then its a bit different. Is it the state location of the recording device, or the state of the person being recorded that laws are applied. But yes your right the safest route is to get consent from all parties, this is for the US and is also good assumption for the UK.

Im really interested about Youtube, since many people are being recorded without consent and videos being posted freely. Its not illegal to record images and videos but is illegal to record audio without consent.
 
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I don't know if Nintendo support works anything like Nikon's, but when I used to work with them we rarely had any specific information regarding the repair centers unless we contacted and dealt with them ourselves. Dealing with them was an ordeal, as responses normally came in waves once a day at best.

Like this situation, repair centers strictly did not deal with customers, and getting information from them was like pulling teeth.
Then there's all of the known design flaws that we couldn't acknowledge, which is very likely what this issue is. The reps are told to handle these problems like they've never been seen before and recommend standard repair, even if that's not the best option and sometimes there may not even be a fix.

So chances are, Nintendo is fully aware of this problem, as well as the state of their customer service and repair centers. But no one you'll be put in contact with can tell you anything about it and I'd be surprised if they officially acknowledged it.
For anyone who hasn't already sent away their Switch, wait for a firmware update.
 
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