VR worth it yet ?

Youkai · May 24, 2017

Hi there,
I am very interested in VR and as I don't own a Playstation I was looking at the Rift and the Vive mainly, but these things are really expensive and I am not really sure if it is worth it yet.

I am wearing glasses which might not be that great for VR ? even though I could test the Rift and it seemed to work fine except that it didn't properly fit my head (had light comming trough some parts but that might be because I could not set it up to my prefferences on the fair i tested it.

I like the idea and in that one test it was kind of awesome but I wonder about the Programm/Game library plus the Problem that Rift is closed ... which makes the vive more interesting but I couldn't test it plus it is much more expensive and you need these tracking things all around ^^V

I have got a GTX 970 and 16GB Ram and a rather good I7 which should be good enough for VR gaming ... probably...

Than again my Computer place is really cramped so I would need to have a connection cable which is long enough.

I have seen some good offers for used Rifts for about 400$ including controlers
But I have heard that at least HTC is working on a Wireless version ... maybe its better to wait ?

Sonic Angel Knight · May 24, 2017

Is it worth it yet? Well is something new as far as trying to make it more relevant to video games, but the amount of games for vr is still growing so maybe give it a year or something? To be honest, i don't have much interest in vr outside of gaming, but for movies, maybe. I would like to watch movie from a game in vr, like maybe Castlevania VR or something creepy.

But unless is me with a controller mashing buttons, is not something i would do for game purpose. HD tv with controllers work fine. But maybe is helps with exercise or something? Just some ideas.

Silverthorn · May 24, 2017

Youkai said:
Hi there,
I am very interested in VR and as I don't own a Playstation I was looking at the Rift and the Vive mainly, but these things are really expensive and I am not really sure if it is worth it yet.

I am wearing glasses which might not be that great for VR ? even though I could test the Rift and it seemed to work fine except that it didn't properly fit my head (had light comming trough some parts but that might be because I could not set it up to my prefferences on the fair i tested it.

I like the idea and in that one test it was kind of awesome but I wonder about the Programm/Game library plus the Problem that Rift is closed ... which makes the vive more interesting but I couldn't test it plus it is much more expensive and you need these tracking things all around ^^V

I have got a GTX 970 and 16GB Ram and a rather good I7 which should be good enough for VR gaming ... probably...

Than again my Computer place is really cramped so I would need to have a connection cable which is long enough.

I have seen some good offers for used Rifts for about 400$ including controlers
But I have heard that at least HTC is working on a Wireless version ... maybe its better to wait ?

Unless you have the money to go for it and be sure you won't regret it I would personally recommend waiting.
It's still very much a market that is in the process of establishing itself and it's not easy to say which standards and models will come through and really be the best at the end of the day.

TVL · May 24, 2017

Didn't that quiet down quick (again)? I haven't heard anyone talking about VR in the longest time and I know nobody that's gotten a headset. I would never buy at current cost, while waiting maybe something worth having it for pops up too.

Veho · May 24, 2017

It is not.

VR setups (full VR: headset, controllers, space scanner / potiion tracker / whatever) are still huge, bulky, expensive and impractical.
You need a hangar-sized room to be able to move around without hitting any walls, but it still won't help about getting tangled in wires.
If you can find a decently priced "VR" headset with sufficient support, go for it, because that's what you'll end up using your VR setup for, while the rest of the gear collects dust. I would recommend waiting a little more before getting the full gear.

MionissNio · May 24, 2017

Try cardboard and daydream, these will give you a nice idea of the application of VR (not quality) if you like it buy it otherwise nope.

FAST6191 · May 24, 2017

Are there any real "killer apps" for it yet? Setting up a mech piloting station, or a plane piloting station, or a car simulator, is impractical and space consuming but in the end I would be piloting a mech, plane/spaceship or driving a car around cool places. One trick ponies but that trick is very entertaining. Everything I have seen for VR is tech demo and thing which is scarcely any better than just having a big screen and sitting close to it, maybe with a decent set of headphones or surround sound. Some use them to have a personal screen anywhere but meh.

Youkai · May 24, 2017

I doubt that it is dead, I sometimes read about VR and new stuff like HTC (i think it was htc) getting an addon that will make the VR headset wireless !
They said that there will be no new model only for the wirless yet but maybe later with more new stuff ...

The Programm Libraby is a problem I guess ... not sure if you can say it really is mostly tech demo but I guess there is not much really great stuff yet except for Resident Evel maybe but thats Playstation exclusive right ?

MionissNio said:
Try cardboard and daydream, these will give you a nice idea of the application of VR (not quality) if you like it buy it otherwise nope.

yeah I was thinking the same thing to try this before buying the expensive stuff.
But my Phone is not Daydream Ready, still ordered one of these cheap phone holders for vr a few days ago I guess it might arrive next week ...

tech3475 · May 24, 2017

I'd wait until the next gen stuff comes along.

I've seen reports of companies coming out with options for PC which are closer to PSVR in terms of pricing, plus they might fix some of the issues with the current VR systems.

BORTZ · May 24, 2017

I have heard good things about that Farpoint game that was just released. But I have no interest in a VR set just yet.

WeedZ · May 24, 2017

I say vr is "worth it". See, the way capitalism works, if you want to see improvements and further development of a product you have to support it monetarily. The game library for vr is very small. The PS4 vr has like two, what I would call, fully developed games. One is a big franchise while the other is an original, both designed to kick-start the vr platform for console gamers. If everyone waits untill its "better" it won't be worth further development by game companies as it will be seen as a failure financially.

Saiyan Lusitano · May 24, 2017

Try a cheap one like the Samsung Gear VR with a Samsung Galaxy phone (as long as it's suitable on the gear). VR isn't for me, just seems like a gimmick.

WeedZ · May 24, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
Try a cheap one like the Samsung Gear VR with a Samsung Galaxy phone (as long as it's suitable on the gear). VR isn't for me, just seems like a gimmick.

Because you've been using shitty little cellphone headsets.

Saiyan Lusitano · May 24, 2017

WeedZ said:
Because you've been using shitty little cellphone headsets.

I tried others but I just don't really like to wear it or for myself. It's bulky to wear it and honestly, the traditional way is just better for me.

zanfire · May 24, 2017

If you have the money and want one now, go with the HTC Vive. It is the most open, has the most content and is the fullest experience. TBH at the prices they are at i would continue to wait. More headsets are coming out like 2 more windows ones with AR functions that will be much cheaper or the multitude of phoneless HMDs being worked on. Wait for the tech to get better, wait for prices to drop and wait for them to work out the kinks. I owned the samsung VR and then the Vive...there is a pretty big difference in them and only use mobile if you want to do simple things like watch videos. The Vive was a blast to show people i honestly kind of miss it now that i see Vive games popping up on steam almost daily, but i can't re-invest at that 800$ price again, so ill wait on how the windows ones turn out or for Version 2.

TVL · May 24, 2017

WeedZ said:
I say vr is "worth it". See, the way capitalism works, if you want to see improvements and further development of a product you have to support it monetarily. The game library for vr is very small. The PS4 vr has like two, what I would call, fully developed games. One is a big franchise while the other is an original, both designed to kick-start the vr platform for console gamers. If everyone waits untill its "better" it won't be worth further development by game companies as it will be seen as a failure financially.

Sounds more like charity. It should start in the way that it's worth buying and therefore people buy it.

It already died once, let's see this time around.

zanfire · May 24, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
I tried others but I just don't really like to wear it or for myself. It's bulky to wear it and honestly, the traditional way is just better for me.

Weight and balance next to price are the real issues and i complete understand that, but VR (especially the full roomscale stuff) is SO dramatically different from regular gaming you really can't compare them.

WeedZ · May 24, 2017

TVL said:
Sounds more like charity. It should start in the way that it's worth buying and therefore people buy it.

It already died once, let's see this time around.

Not really, I've gotten my 600$ worth of entertainment out of my VR stuff. Not like it's obsolete yet either. I'm going to pick up farpoint come payday and I'll get another 60 hours or so out of it.

The Real Jdbye · May 24, 2017

WeedZ said:
Because you've been using shitty little cellphone headsets.

Honestly the only thing holding the Gear VR back is the fact that phones don't really have the specs required for high quality graphics in VR. Some make really good use of VR though, to the point where the graphics don't really matter.

Anyway, a Gear VR with any recent or semi-recent (past 2-3 years) Samsung phone actually has a higher resolution than any VR headset on the market right now, which helps a lot in reducing the screen door effect which is the #1 immersion killer when it comes to VR. For testing out VR, any Gear VR with a compatible Samsung phone will do the job just fine, and I think even Google Cardboard will do a decent job for testing out VR. And honestly? VR isn't any good beyond just testing out stuff right now, the low resolution (or more specifically, the large gap between pixels) ruins most of the immersion once the initial novelty wears off. I'm not a believer of 4K when it comes to monitors and TVs (unless you have a massive monitor or you sit incredibly close to the TV you're not going to notice the difference), but when it comes to VR it's really needed.

Youkai said:
Hi there,
I am very interested in VR and as I don't own a Playstation I was looking at the Rift and the Vive mainly, but these things are really expensive and I am not really sure if it is worth it yet.

I am wearing glasses which might not be that great for VR ? even though I could test the Rift and it seemed to work fine except that it didn't properly fit my head (had light comming trough some parts but that might be because I could not set it up to my prefferences on the fair i tested it.

I like the idea and in that one test it was kind of awesome but I wonder about the Programm/Game library plus the Problem that Rift is closed ... which makes the vive more interesting but I couldn't test it plus it is much more expensive and you need these tracking things all around ^^V

I have got a GTX 970 and 16GB Ram and a rather good I7 which should be good enough for VR gaming ... probably...

Than again my Computer place is really cramped so I would need to have a connection cable which is long enough.

I have seen some good offers for used Rifts for about 400$ including controlers
But I have heard that at least HTC is working on a Wireless version ... maybe its better to wait ?

Honestly, no. VR is fun for a few hours until the novelty and the wow factor wears off. Then you're just left bothered about the screen door effect and wondering how the fuck they could charge $900 for this shit. VR headsets right now are just 1200p screens with some motion tracing hardware built in, they are not worth anywhere near $900, but more importantly the low resolution (it may not sound that low but trust me when the screen is 2cm away from your face it is low) is what really ruins the immersion, and immersion is what VR is all about. Once 4K VR headsets are available (which I'm sure they will be soon enough as DJI already has a 4K HMD for their drones that's going to be released soon), THEN VR will be a truly amazing experience, not limited by anything other than the games you are running and the specs of your PC.

Eightcoins · May 26, 2017

Id say Id only invest in VR as soon the medical issues or what you call it are fixed.
Alot of people report getting headaches or feeling sick from VR,most likely due to moving while not moving.
And considering that already happens to me when playing Half Life 2,Id prefer to only own it after said issue is fixed.
Id also wait until a "proper game" is on VR instead of what are pretty much tech demos we have right now.
The Price also is a reason for me to avoid it,I dont shit money.

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