Nintendo just paid off 3 people for the HackerOne Program

Jax_Ripper · Apr 25, 2017

It's really sad , when hackers start selling the info instead sharing the info with the community.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

proflayton123 said:
Lmao ew those people..

anhminh said:
I hate snitch, they make me sick.

TVL said:
LOL, hadn't seen this before. First feeling I got was those people are nothing but cheap whores... on second thought though, that's not really fair to anyone who has to prostitute themselves, they're way better than those three people.

Well technically, these hackers don't nessicerrily have to release their work, because they have the right to choose what they put their trade into. But has anyone considered they may actually NEED the money, and put their skill to a good use?
And it's not like your entitled to a hack you didn't find, nor can you force others to relinquish such finds

Plus, has anyone actually considered the other possible extent of the exploits? Not all hacking is "get kernel, and free gamez no0bz! LEL"
Some go as far as stealing credit card info, like remember when PSN was shut down for a few weeks for the card number hacks? For all we know, even if it was homebrew, it could have simply been userland or maybe something as heinous as malware entry points

Quantumcat · Apr 26, 2017

I just thought of something. I bet the intention of this project is not to get people to sell them their exploits (although that's a side benefit) but to discourage collaboration and sharing. It's one thing when people you are working with might jump the gun and release before it is finished in order to get the glory, it's another when money is on the line.

FAST6191 · Apr 26, 2017

Quantumcat said:
I just thought of something. I bet the intention of this project is not to get people to sell them their exploits (although that's a side benefit) but to discourage collaboration and sharing. It's one thing when people you are working with might jump the gun and release before it is finished in order to get the glory, it's another when money is on the line.

You expect Nintendo to be playing at that level? Maybe their security consultants or insurance or credit company said to do it.

Beyond that how many teams are people that met in universities, jobs or have collaborated on many other things prior to whatever console stuff we see?

I don't doubt someone, somewhere is playing social manipulation at that level and beyond but Nintendo?

Sketchy1 said:
Well technically, these hackers don't nessicerrily have to release their work, because they have the right to choose what they put their trade into. But has anyone considered they may actually NEED the money, and put their skill to a good use?
And it's not like your entitled to a hack you didn't find, nor can you force others to relinquish such finds

Plus, has anyone actually considered the other possible extent of the exploits? Not all hacking is "get kernel, and free gamez no0bz! LEL"
Some go as far as stealing credit card info, like remember when PSN was shut down for a few weeks for the card number hacks? For all we know, even if it was homebrew, it could have simply been userland or maybe something as heinous as malware entry points

I don't think what Jax_Ripper put there deserves to be lumped in with the others you quoted.

Sketchy1 · Apr 26, 2017

proflayton123 said:
Lmao ew those people..

anhminh said:
I hate snitch, they make me sick.

TVL said:
LOL, hadn't seen this before. First feeling I got was those people are nothing but cheap whores... on second thought though, that's not really fair to anyone who has to prostitute themselves, they're way better than those three people.

FAST6191 said:
You expect Nintendo to be playing at that level? Maybe their security consultants or insurance or credit company said to do it.

Beyond that how many teams are people that met in universities, jobs or have collaborated on many other things prior to whatever console stuff we see?

I don't doubt someone, somewhere is playing social manipulation at that level and beyond but Nintendo?

I don't think what Jax_Ripper put there deserves to be lumped in with the others you quoted.

That was an accident lol, fixed now @FAST6191

But again, i stand by my view that no one here is entitled to anything they didn't find

MinishCaper55 · Apr 28, 2017

I wouldn't worry about it. Nintendo has always been bad at security. I doubt that 3 guys are going change that.

Xplic1T · Apr 28, 2017

MinishCaper55 said:
I wouldn't worry about it. Nintendo has always been bad at security. I doubt that 3 guys are going change that.

3ds took 2 to 3 years until gateway prototypes started to hit ... now its completely broken thanks to @smealum ... im just hoping for valid dumps surfacing in the coming months ... then in the near future have those dumps decrypted. Pega was premature.

Johnny2071 · Apr 29, 2017

Nothing but trolls and robot wannabees on this thread. And this topic is still going?

So the safest bet is to never update the system at all, unless its to fix an actual issue with the system.

And to all the smug elitists calling people entitled, well excuse some of us for not wanting to lose hours of work in BoTW or to be forced to "get good" in a Zelda game that's radically different from an actual Zelda game.

Kioku · Apr 29, 2017

Johnny2071 said:
Nothing but trolls and robot wannabees on this thread. And this topic is still going?

So the safest bet is to never update the system at all, unless its to fix an actual issue with the system.

And to all the smug elitists calling people entitled, well excuse some of us for not wanting to lose hours of work in BoTW or to be forced to "get good" in a Zelda game that's radically different from an actual Zelda game.

What's the context here?

NightsEkim · Apr 29, 2017

To everyone here that is dissing these people for taking the money over the fame, we will ALL be waiting for your exploit that you release.

In the end it's their choice what they do with an exploit they have found regardless of your desires, regardless of your best interests, what I feel a lot of people don't realize but others have stated is:
A. It's money, something that can/will help them pay bills, feed their families, keep a roof over their head, and help them possibly release a more valuable exploit to the public in the future if they so choose.
B. Its something that can look good on a resume which in turn can help them get a better job, which in turn helps them with A.
C. It's their exploit that they found that they can do with what they wish.

The fact is, it's none of your business what they do with the exploits they've found and you shouldn't be angry at them for doing what they want to do with said exploits.

jmhannz · May 1, 2017

if i was these hackers, I would of showed off my hacks to the world, and released them and just added a donation button if they are that greedy... who knows they could of got more than 10k if everyone gave a dollar

. Its worth even donating $10-20 to these people. Even $50-60, cost of one game could save your console for its lifetime.

g00s3y · May 1, 2017

People in here, who are clearly upset at things they probably don't even understand, trying to justify their own opinions about why it should have been released. This is hilarious.

the_randomizer · May 1, 2017

This just makes me want to say:

Who the hell cares?

shinyquagsire23 · May 1, 2017

jmhannz said:
if i was these hackers, I would of showed off my hacks to the world, and released them and just added a donation button if they are that greedy... who knows they could of got more than 10k if everyone gave a dollar . Its worth even donating $10-20 to these people. Even $50-60, cost of one game could save your console for its lifetime.

Saying hackers are greedy for wanting money for exploits is like saying artists are greedy for wanting money for commissions. Somehow I doubt a donation button for things like secondaries or in-between kexploits would yield as much money as Nintendo.

wolfmankurd · May 2, 2017

Can't blame these people. Chances are we wouldn't have seen those exploits anyways, either they wouldn't look, or they wouldn't go public. Most of the hackers out there do it for themselves anyways.

People have families to feed, or iPads to buy, whatever can't blame someone for wanting money for their time.

linuxares · May 2, 2017

Jesus this still going on?
Can people just understand that these 3 people might not even be socalled "console hackers" but general security intrested people that happen to find the exploits even on a Switch.
Why not get some extra money plus recognition? They owe you nothing and never will be.

Johnny2071 · May 5, 2017

Memoir said:
What's the context here?

Everyone on this thread calling people entitled and whiny for not wanting to lose homebrew. Plus BoTW is a current/popular, yet radically different Zelda game on the Switch. Hacking means no cheap deaths. Selling exploits to Nintendo means no hacking, meaning no advantage in a hard unfamiliar game.

Kioku · May 5, 2017

Johnny2071 said:
Everyone on this thread calling people entitled and whiny for not wanting to lose homebrew. Plus BoTW is a current/popular, yet radically different Zelda game on the Switch. Hacking means no cheap deaths. Selling exploits to Nintendo means no hacking, meaning no advantage in a hard unfamiliar game.

Mate, whining about something you have nothing to do with.. Saying that it takes something away from you? You don't think that's entitlement? What these people do with the exploits is none of your business. They owe us literally nothing. Not to mention, you're upset about potentially losing Hacks.... Really?

Johnny2071 · May 5, 2017

Memoir said:
Mate, whining about something you have nothing to do with.. Saying that it takes something away from you? You don't think that's entitlement? What these people do with the exploits is none of your business. They owe us literally nothing. Not to mention, you're upset about potentially losing Hacks.... Really?

Yes, really.

You may not feel that way (even though you're on a hacking site), but I and many others do.

linuxares · May 5, 2017

Johnny2071 said:
Everyone on this thread calling people entitled and whiny for not wanting to lose homebrew. Plus BoTW is a current/popular, yet radically different Zelda game on the Switch. Hacking means no cheap deaths. Selling exploits to Nintendo means no hacking, meaning no advantage in a hard unfamiliar game.

In my days, we didn't even have the internet to look up a cheatcode. We had to get good at the game. I suggest you do the same.

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