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Using Luma3DS + Gateway on B9S


SYSNAND-ONLY USERS: DO NOT BOOT GW MODE ON 11.3+ - YOU WILL LOSE B9S AND BE LEFT ON A STOCK FIRMWARE
I highly advise against the use of GW on SysNAND-Only Setups.
GW currently DOES NOT support firmwares 11.3//11.4 - B9S does not change that!
If you're on 11.3+ - Don't even try to use GW. Use Luma3DS or any other CFW that has confirmed support for 11.3+ firmwares.



Setting up GW with Luma3DS' chainloader

Requirements: SysNAND or EmuNAND on 11.2 or lower!
Tested and working on B9S 1.2 (Luma3DS 8.0)
  1. Download the v2gw.zip attached to this post.
  2. Extract the "arm9loaderhax.bin" from v2gw.zip to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
  3. Rename that very "arm9loaderhax.bin" you just extracted to "v2gw.bin" or to whatever you want. However, step 12 will assume v2gw.bin was used, you can edit that reference to meet whatever you decided to name it.
  4. Download GW's ‘arm9loaderhax.bin.zip‘ file.
    • On their main home page. Under the post titled: "GATEWAY 4.0B PRIVATE BETA #2"
    • Or on their openly public Private Beta Program page, on this page it'll be under the "» arm9loaderhax for users with existing a9lh installs" section.
  5. Extract GW's "arm9loaderhax.bin" file from their zip file to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
  6. Rename that very "arm9loaderhax.bin" you just extracted to "gateway.bin"
  7. Make sure you have the latest GW's Launcher.dat on the root of your SD Card.
  8. This dev-build of BootCTR9: https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-the-bootctr9-release-thread.435347/page-3#post-7370533
  9. Extract the "boot.firm" file from the BootCTR9-firmv2.zip to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
  10. Rename that very "boot.firm" you just extracted to "down_BootCTR9.firm" or to whatever you want that is allowed by Luma3DS' payload chainloader.
    - Other button options: https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/wiki/Other-features-and-notes#payload-chainloading
  11. Extract the "boot_config.ini" file from from the BootCTR9-firmv2.zip to the root of your SD Card.
  12. Open the "boot_config.ini" file and overwrite everything with the following:
    Code:
    [BOOTCTR9]
    key_delay = 1000
    
    [DEFAULT]
    path = /luma/payloads/v2gw.bin
  13. You are now done. If you followed this tutorial, holding DPAD-DOWN at boot time, will load up Gateway Mode.
    - SysNAND-Only Users on 11.2 will be prompted to press 'L+R+SELECT' to boot SYSNAND. DO NOT PRESS THE BUTTON PROMPT ON 11.3+
    - GW EmuNAND users will automatically boot into their GW EmuNAND.


FAQ

Q: How do I boot into the GW Menu?
A: Hold L+Select, as soon as you see the Dragon Logo.

Q: Can I use my GW Blue Card?
A: Yes, but only while using Luma3DS. It will not work in GW Mode.

Q: Can I play online while in GW Mode?
A: Yes, sort-of. But you have to either:

Q: I'm getting a black screen!? HELP!?
A: Multiple reasons for that below:
  • Modified SecureInfo_A - GW does not patch this. You'll need an untouched donor file of this.
  • Using a RedNAND - GW only supports GW EmuNAND, it cannot boot RedNAND. Use the GW Menu or GodMode9 to make one.
  • On SysNAND-Only Setups - Not having properly removed EmuNAND//RedNAND. Use GodMode to properly format your SD Card. But I advise you set one up.
  • Trying to boot an 11.3//11.4 EmuNAND - GW does not support anything higher than 11.2
  • If it's not listed, then who knows. Do you have a modified Home Menu or font? Those might not work at all in GW Mode.


Credits

Many thanks to the above lovely people~ <3 ♥
Original posts:
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/using-gateway-on-a9lh-v2.431222/page-4#post-6464898
Link: http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-using-luma3ds-with-gateway-on-v2-a9lh.431691/page-4#post-6472283
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-booting-gw-with-b9s-and-some-help.471417/







I highly advise against the use of GW for SysNAND-Only setups.

11.3&11.4 Break GW. GW currently DOES NOT support 11.3 or 11.4. You will either brick or lose A9LH. More than likely it seems you will just lose A9LH.


Again, if you attempt to boot GW Mode, on a SYSNAND-Only Setup while on 11.3 or 11.4, you will lose A9LH. It does not matter if you safely updated to this firmware via another CFW that safely protects FIRM.

If you want to use 11.3+, you will not be able to use GW. Don't even try. Only use Luma3DS or other CFW that support 11.3+

If you are a Gateway3DS user, and have recently finished Plailect's A9LH Guide, then you should be on v2 A9LH. Unfortunately, at the time this thread was made, GW's a9lh.bin file is incompatible with Luma3DS' payload chainloading feature while on v2 A9LH.

So one way around this was to either forego using Luma3DS' payload chainloading, and use a boot manager that does work in initializing GW's a9lh.bin correctly. Like BootCTR9. Either you let BootCTR9 handle all payloads, or you set it up to chainload into Luma3DS and from there let Luma3DS do all the work.

Either way, some people might not like BootCTR9 (Big fan of BootCTR9, seriously thing is amazing~!)

So if you don't want to use the BootCTR9 method, then @Hayleia made a very stripped down boot manager that only loads /luma/payloads/gateway.bin. You still need GW's a9lh.bin in addition to this stripped down bootmanager, but that's all you need, these two files! No need for messy configs if you just want to stick with Luma3DS' payload chainloader.


Now on to the damn tutorials already~!



Gateway Logo


1. Download the v2gw.zip attached to this post.
2. Extract the "arm9loaderhax.bin" from v2gw.zip to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
3. Rename that very "arm9loaderhax.bin" you just extracted to "down_v2gw.bin" or to whatever you want that is allowed by Luma3DS' payload chainloader.
Other button options: https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/wiki/Other-features-and-notes#payload-chainloading
4. Download GW's ‘arm9loaderhax.bin.zip‘ file.
You have to get this directly from Gateway's site. Which is either:
A) On their main home page.
B) Or on their openly public Private Beta Program page, on this page it'll be under the "» arm9loaderhax for users with existing a9lh installs" section.
5. Extract GW's "arm9loaderhax.bin" file from their zip file to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
6. Rename that very "arm9loaderhax.bin" you just extracted to "gateway.bin"
7. Make sure you have the latest GW's Launcher.dat on the root of your SD Card.
8. You are now done. If you followed this tutorial, holding DPAD-DOWN at boot time, will load up Gateway Mode.
However, if you are a SysNAND Only User, and on 11.1 and using the 4.2 Launcher.dat, you will be prompted to press 'L+R+SELECT' to boot SYSNAND.
GW EmuNAND users will automatically boot into their GW EmuNAND.

Notes: To Boot into the GW Menu: Hold L+Select, as soon as you see the Dragon Logo.
To Force a Manual Gateway3DS RedCard Update: Hold R+Select as soon as you see the Dragon Logo.




No Gateway Logo (Not Recommend - Only for those allergic to the dragon logo - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK)

Notes: This version will de-init the screen by default, and as such you won't see the Gateway Logo. Don't worry it'll init once you land on the Home. Due to how this works, only GW EmuNAND users should consider using this. This is because SysNAND users will land on the SysNAND prompt nag.

1. Download the v2gw-de-init.zip attached to this post.
2. Extract the "v2gw.bin" from v2gw-de-init.zip to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
3. Rename that very "v2gw2.bin" you just extracted to "down_v2gw.bin" or to whatever you want that is allowed by Luma3DS' payload chainloader.
Other button options: https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/wiki/Other-features-and-notes#payload-chainloading
4. Download GW's ‘arm9loaderhax.bin.zip‘ file.
You have to get this directly from Gateway's site. Which is either:
A) On their main home page.
B) Or on their openly public Private Beta Program page, on this page it'll be under the "» arm9loaderhax for users with existing a9lh installs" section.
5. Extract GW's "arm9loaderhax.bin" file from their zip file to your /luma/payloads/ folder.
6. Rename that very "arm9loaderhax.bin" you just extracted to "gateway.bin"
7. Make sure you have the latest GW's Launcher.dat on the root of your SD Card.
8. You are now done. If you followed this tutorial, holding DPAD-DOWN at boot time, will load up Gateway Mode without the Gateway Logo.


Tested on N3DS and O3DS by me, 2DS by @Hayleia.
Should work on either screen-init or non-screen-init v2 A9LH.



Important Note: Never update your SysNAND in Gateway Mode. It does not matter what Launcher.dat version you use, if you go ahead and update while in SysNAND Mode, you will either brick or lose A9LH+CFW and be on the latest stock firmware. This is because GW Mode does not offer FIRM protection in A9LH. Updating your GW EmuNAND is fine and safe, and is what Gateway actually recommends you do and use even when using A9LH.



!~Getting Black Screen After Dragon Logo and After Following This Guide~! (PLEASE READ)
Sounds like someone hasn't properly removed their EmuNAND//RedNAND with EmuNAND9. The Black Screen problem is common to people who skipped doing it properly and used a third-party tool like EaseUS or any other partition manager.

Since EmuNAND//RedNAND wasn't removed properly, traces were leftover and GW by default sees it, and tries to boot into this non-existent EmuNAND//RedNAND and fails. So how do we fix it? We use EmuNAND9 to preperly remove traces of it.

Part 5, Section V of the old A9LH guide covers this. However, I will list all relevant steps here.
Link: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide_R...ax)#section-v---removing-rednand-from-your-sd

The new guide also sort of mentions if in this new page, and does show you how to setup EmuNAND9:
Link: https://plailect.github.io/Guide/move-emunand

Files we'll need:
Latest release of EmuNAND9: https://github.com/d0k3/EmuNAND9/releases/latest

1. Copy EmuNAND9.bin from the EmuNAND9.zip to the /luma/payloads/ folder on your SD card and rename EmuNAND9.bin to y_EmuNAND9.bin
2. Backup every file on your SD card to a folder on your computer, all files will be deleted in the following steps
3. Reinsert your SD card into your 3DS
4. Hold (Y) at boot time to open EmuNAND9
5. Go to "SD Format Options...", then select the "Format SD (no EmuNAND)" option, and wait for it to finish
6. Press (B) to return to the menu, then press Select to safely eject your SD Card
7. Put your SD card back into your computer, and copy all the files you backed up previously, back into your SD Card
8. Reinsert your SD card into your 3DS, then press (Start) to reboot



Additional Note: You will still have to look into BootCTR9 if for some reason you want GW to be the default, as opposed to Luma3DS. This tutorial is meant more for the people who want Luma3DS as their main//default, and want to use Luma3DS' payload chainloader to boot into GW Mode.
Go to the following link for the tutorial on setting up GW as your main with BootCTR9.
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/using-gateway-on-a9lh-v2.431222/


All credits to @Hayleia for making both of these~! Thank you~ <3 ♥
Original posts:
Link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/using-gateway-on-a9lh-v2.431222/page-4#post-6464898
Link: http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-using-luma3ds-with-gateway-on-v2-a9lh.431691/page-4#post-6472283
 

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That. That is very helpful. So I cannot affect anything by following the procedure when on 11.2

Excuse my ignorance but can you clarify what you mean about the NANDs being linked? IS that because I will have created the emunand based on the sysand, so the two will be linked so that if I update one I automatically update the other? If that is correct, can I create the emunand based on 11.2 update files which I used for the sysupdater so avoid the two being linked?

Thanks again
NANDs being linked may or may not be affected by a system update. In the past, some people have reported that they updated EmuNAND, and their SysNAND also ended up getting updated. They reported that they had linked NANDs.

Unlinking NANDs is easy. You use TinyFormat or you perform an actual System Format. The problem with a System Format is that it will wipe the Nintendo 3DS folder. As such, it's better to use Tiny Format as it won't touch the SD Card.

Hey, just a question, I stupidly updated my system whilst in gateway mode thinking it was fine (as long as i'm IN gateway/cfw mode), but now further attempts to boot gateway fail, another member on here told me to go for luma 3ds, and the 3ds.guide is kinda lengthy.. is it true that gateway is releasing an update soon-ish? Should I just wait if I can?
If you're on 11.4, you're pretty much screwed until a new exploit is found//released.

Otherwise, follow 3DS.Guide. You'll need to figure out how to get to setup an 11.2 EmuNAND once you're done with that, if you want to continue using GW.

As for GW's update. I think they said they've been working on something since February? If you want to wait, go ahead. But there's no real estimate on when they'll finally release an update.
 

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Thanks for the above.

One (hopefully last) question. If I set up emunand afresh that will wip my SD card in order to make room for the emunand partition correct ? If that is the case, can I put a different SD card in one I have launched to the gateway menu or do I need to backup the contents of the Sd card so I can copy them back one the gateway Emunand is set up.

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Thanks for the above.

One (hopefully last) question. If I set up emunand afresh that will wip my SD card in order to make room for the emunand partition correct ? If that is the case, can I put a different SD card in one I have launched to the gateway menu or do I need to backup the contents of the Sd card so I can copy them back one the gateway Emunand is set up.

Thanks
I would backup the contents of the SD Card. Remember that the EmuNAND will only be on the SD Card that is formatted for it.
 

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I would backup the contents of the SD Card. Remember that the EmuNAND will only be on the SD Card that is formatted for it.

OK. I have made progress. I have followed the instructions and was able to boot into the Gateway menu and then format the SD with emunand based on the 11.2 sysnand I have installed. I am now able to boot into gateway, confirmed by looking at the firmware version in setting which has GW at the start.

However, once I have booted into gateway, I cannot access any of the games on the micro SD card in the gateway red card. I used to press select on the game card slot icon and a menu would open up showing all the games, from which I could select one. I cannot see that now. Any suggestions?

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OK. I have made progress. I have followed the instructions and was able to boot into the Gateway menu and then format the SD with emunand based on the 11.2 sysnand I have installed. I am now able to boot into gateway, confirmed by looking at the firmware version in setting which has GW at the start.

However, once I have booted into gateway, I cannot access any of the games on the micro SD card in the gateway red card. I used to press select on the game card slot icon and a menu would open up showing all the games, from which I could select one. I cannot see that now. Any suggestions?

Thanks
You have to have the latest Launcher.dat.
 

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OK. I have made progress. I have followed the instructions and was able to boot into the Gateway menu and then format the SD with emunand based on the 11.2 sysnand I have installed. I am now able to boot into gateway, confirmed by looking at the firmware version in setting which has GW at the start.

However, once I have booted into gateway, I cannot access any of the games on the micro SD card in the gateway red card. I used to press select on the game card slot icon and a menu would open up showing all the games, from which I could select one. I cannot see that now. Any suggestions?

Thanks

I have the latest launcher.dat which I downloaded from gateway. Gateway says it is on 4.2.1. I put the red gateway card in and can boot into gateway but pressing [select] doesnt do anything.

There are the same games on the micro SD card and the card was working fine before I started all this so I dont think it will be that.

Do I need to do anything else to get it to work? Do I need to do something with the blue card as was necessary to first set up gateway back on 4.5.0 way back ? Do I need to do any update on the gateway red card itself
 

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I have the latest launcher.dat which I downloaded from gateway. Gateway says it is on 4.2.1. I put the red gateway card in and can boot into gateway but pressing [select] doesnt do anything.

There are the same games on the micro SD card and the card was working fine before I started all this so I dont think it will be that.

Do I need to do anything else to get it to work? Do I need to do something with the blue card as was necessary to first set up gateway back on 4.5.0 way back ? Do I need to do any update on the gateway red card itself
You can force an update to the red card. "To Force a Manual Gateway3DS RedCard Update: Hold R+Select as soon as you see the Dragon Logo"

And no, the blue card isn't needed. That's only to setup the MSET entrypoint. Since your entrypoint is A9LH. The blue card is useless.
 

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You can force an update to the red card. "To Force a Manual Gateway3DS RedCard Update: Hold R+Select as soon as you see the Dragon Logo"

And no, the blue card isn't needed. That's only to setup the MSET entrypoint. Since your entrypoint is A9LH. The blue card is useless.


OK. Thanks. I can dis-regard the blue card then. What files will I need to do the update on the red card? Also, looking at the info on the gateway site it doesnt say anything about support for 11.2. It mentions 11.1. Could this be the problem? I am rather flummuxed by this.
 

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OK. Thanks. I can dis-regard the blue card then. What files will I need to do the update on the red card? Also, looking at the info on the gateway site it doesnt say anything about support for 11.2. It mentions 11.1. Could this be the problem? I am rather flummuxed by this.
As for the files needed for updating the red card. It should all be inside the Launcher.dat file. I think. That's the only file I've ever used anyways.

Third post on their main site
26/10 – Latest Emunand support
Posted on October 26, 2016

Just a quick confirmation that Gateway Emunand support Nintendo’s latest firmware 11.2
You can safely update your Emunand.

More to come soon!

And my 2 systems running GW. Are using 11.2.

Don't know what to tell you. Somethings up with your setup and I can't help you any further.
 
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I'm using an Old3DS which is on 4.5 sysNAND and on 11.2 Gateway emuNAND
And I'm considering following Plailect's guide to installing A9LH+Luma3DS instead of waiting for Gateway to release an update supporting 11.3/11.4

After following the guide, can I follow the Gateway Logo path to boot my emuNAND in GW mode(with the red card)? or can I update my system with Luma3DS to 11.4 beforehand
and then follow the Gateway Logo path when Gateway releases an update for 11.3/11.4?
 

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I'm using an Old3DS which is on 4.5 sysNAND and on 11.2 Gateway emuNAND
And I'm considering following Plailect's guide to installing A9LH+Luma3DS instead of waiting for Gateway to release an update supporting 11.3/11.4

After following the guide, can I follow the Gateway Logo path to boot my emuNAND in GW mode(with the red card)? or can I update my system with Luma3DS to 11.4 beforehand
and then follow the Gateway Logo path when Gateway releases an update for 11.3/11.4?
As long as you keep your EmuNAND and do not format or remove it. GW will always boot into it. Assuming you are using the latest Launcher.dat, it will give you a NAG//WARNING when attempting to boot a SysNAND-Only setup. If you see this nag. Then DO NOT boot into it, booting into it on a 11.3//11.4 SysNAND will wipe A9LH. It doesn't matter if you updated safely to this firmware with Luma3DS.

You are free to update your SysNAND to 11.4 if you want with Luma3DS.

As for the order of what to do. I don't think it matters at all. Just don't boot GW on a SysNAND-only setup that's on 11.3//11.4.
 
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As long as you keep your EmuNAND and do not format or remove it. GW will always boot into it. Assuming you are using the latest Launcher.dat, it will give you a NAG//WARNING when attempting to boot a SysNAND-Only setup. If you see this nag. Then DO NOT boot into it, booting into it on a 11.3//11.4 SysNAND will wipe A9LH. It doesn't matter if you updated safely to this firmware with Luma3DS.

You are free to update your SysNAND to 11.4 if you want with Luma3DS.

As for the order of what to do. I don't think it matters at all. Just don't boot GW on a SysNAND-only setup that's on 11.3//11.4.

I see, thank you very much for your help.
 

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stupid and noobish question, by installing a9lh and luma,would we be able to update emunand into 11.3 or 11.4

im a bit confused even after reading previous post and just want to clarify it,is this guide intended to make sysnand --> Luma cfw or GW emunand--> Luma emunand?
also if it's on Sysnand,eg 11.2 or 11.4 Luma(iirc it's possible).will it be able to read gateway red card
im currently finding a way to make gateway go online again,since ctr-httpwn doesnt work,Luma is probably the last resort,but i can't play cia games,since i have 8gb sd card only
any ideas which step should i take?,thanks a lot!
 

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stupid and noobish question, by installing a9lh and luma,would we be able to update emunand into 11.3 or 11.4

im a bit confused even after reading previous post and just want to clarify it,is this guide intended to make sysnand --> Luma cfw or GW emunand--> Luma emunand?
also if it's on Sysnand,eg 11.2 or 11.4 Luma(iirc it's possible).will it be able to read gateway red card
im currently finding a way to make gateway go online again,since ctr-httpwn doesnt work,Luma is probably the last resort,but i can't play cia games,since i have 8gb sd card only
any ideas which step should i take?,thanks a lot!
This guide is only so you can use the GW Red Card if your using A9LH as your entrypoint.

This does not enable you to use it while booted directly into Luma3DS.
 

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This guide is only so you can use the GW Red Card if your using A9LH as your entrypoint.

This does not enable you to use it while booted directly into Luma3DS.

Ah i see,so this sas intended on redcard on a9lh

And luma can't read GW red card,thanks haha,so option for gw red card right now is probbly just waiting for the new emu nand support i guess
 

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I bricked once because of using gateway in 11.3
and now after restoring from hardmod I want to make sure something
(currently on 11.0 with Luma sysnand only)

if I want to keep using gateway and update the sysnand to 11.4,
all I have to do is setup the gateway emunand first right? and after that I can just update my sysnand to 11.4?
 
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I bricked once because of using gateway in 11.3
and now after restoring from hardmod I want to make sure something
(currently on 11.0 with Luma sysnand only)

if I want to keep using gateway and update the sysnand to 11.4,
all I have to do is setup the gateway emunand first right? and after that I can just update my sysnand to 11.4?
Yeah, you have to have an EmuNAND (not RedNAND) - And GW will always try to boot that first.

Then you can do whatever you want with your SysNAND.
 
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I followed the instructions had luma 11.2 sysnand installed. Created a emunand through gateway menu and it boots flawlessly into gateway emunand mode by holding down button on boot else it boots into luma sysnand 11.2. Then used tinyformat to format my sysnand so i disconnect the two accounts (the packages being unwrapped in luma mode every time i switched was annoying). So if I updated my sysnand to 11.4 (I know I will lose streaming features) gateway mode will still boot correct since its on emunand 11.2?

Also what happens if i accidently go to system settings from gateway mode as I know it will exit gateway mode back into sysnand when I leave system settings then will I still be ok?. I never plan on updating my emunand past 11.2 until gateway comes out with a fix if ever.

Also a quick tip for you that have both setup use blue type theme for sysnand and red type as a theme for gateway mode that way you will never get confused what nand you are using.
 
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