Former GBAtemp member and suspected pedophile gets 20 year sentence

dankzegriefer · Apr 25, 2017

Alkéryn said:
All rapist* not just child ones but again how do you deal with fake conviction ?

There's a reason why we work on a innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt basis.

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People accusing GBATemp of covering anything up have literally no idea what's going on.

mgrev · Apr 25, 2017

FAST6191 said:
Depending upon the countries on your passport(s) it may still be illegal for you to travel somewhere either with the express purpose, or for it to happen anyway.
It is actually one of the few areas of law that leaves a country's/area's borders.

To answer the what about images discussion that gets to be fun.
Generally as the server is in France and the owner is French (albeit variously living in China) the baseline would probably be French law. I did a quick search but could not find much other than France has also ratified various conventions of rights of children. Will probably have to search in French for this one.
I know in the UK it is 18 for pictures, despite being 16 for unilateral age of consent (give or take quirks like those in positions of power - teachers, carers and what have you). It was 16 for a while but I think it became 18 to harmonise with other places, which does also lead to the amusing quirk of you technically being able to look up cp in libraries if you go back through old papers and find the topless 16 year old women in them.
It has still yet to be seen what will properly happen with Section 63 of the 2008 Criminal Justice and Immigration Act (usually dubbed the extreme porn bill) but that could make things even more fun.

What bearing does being out and "proud" of such a thing have on the ability to not offend? Such an argument is dangerously close to a strawman.

That is not a rhetorical flourish, that is what the law says.

The case has already done and had a verdict handed down.

Costello already said this was after accusations of covering up/downplaying things. It probably would not have played out like this were it just some that wanted helped with a R4 one day, however this is not that.

I was aware that he already got his sentence etc. I formulated my sentence badly. I meant it in the way that "If the jury said so, let it be, i'm not here to shit on anyone, nor defend anyone"

bi388 · Apr 25, 2017

dankzegriefer said:
There's a reason why we work on a innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt basis.

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People accusing GBATemp of covering anything up have literally no idea what's going on.

The problem is reasonable doubt is inherently subjective, and where one jury might find reasonable doubt, another might find them guilty in the same situation. Whether the person committed the crime doesn't change, but their life does.

dankzegriefer · Apr 25, 2017

bi388 said:
The problem is reasonable doubt is inherently subjective, and where one jury might find reasonable doubt, another might find them guilty in the same situation. Whether the person committed the crime doesn't change, but their life does.

If 12 people are somehow all biased to the same thing then that's one hell of a coincidence.

Sketchy1 · Apr 25, 2017

DeadlyFoez said:
The point that I am trying to make is that anyone whom has a sexual attraction to children will eventually offend.

If I were to just say "tell me of someone..." then I would get a response like "I know this guy, Frank, and he...". I want some verifiable proof that someone actually has had a life long sexual attraction to children without ever offending. I don't think anyone can produce results. And the fact is, there is no verifiable data that there is even a percentage that don't offend since the majority of those likely will never come out until they are caught. Even if they mention it to a therapist, that is all confidential so there are no verifiable data points. All that anyone knows as of right now is that anyone whom has a sexual attraction to children has offended or will eventually offend.

Hell, it's easier to get data points about drug addicts.

Kind of sounds one sided, considering if they were out with it they would be ridiculed anyway.
And your definition basically says "if he thought it, he's already guilty"
Not all humans act on impulse dude.

dankzegriefer said:
People accusing GBATemp of covering anything up have literally no idea what's going on.

Also have to question how gbatemp cover-up is a thing??? Lol (not saying that your saying it's a cover-up)
When most people cover something up, it's because they have something to lose if it's revealed. As it stands, I don't see a reason why they would need too

bi388 · Apr 25, 2017

dankzegriefer said:
If 12 people are somehow all biased to the same thing then that's one hell of a coincidence.

What? I'm not saying they're biased I'm saying different people come to different conclusions. It only takes one or two coming to the other conclusion to change others minds. You're implying there's never appeals that come to different results.

Deleted User · Apr 25, 2017

When the hax come so do the kiddies. I guess be a little careful who you PM, young nooblings

Ev1l0rd · Apr 25, 2017

dankzegriefer said:
People accusing GBATemp of covering anything up have literally no idea what's going on.

As far as I'm aware, there was only one redditor spouting accusations in the 3dshacks thread, whom Plailect partially agreed with if I'm not reading things incorrectly.

Also, I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the "Recent Community events" bit that has appeared on top of the guide, since it almost directly relates to this thread. Personally, I think the 3dshacks mods did the wrong thing by being rather... Orwellian in their methods (they purged all comments in the original thread, not just deleted it), but that they just should have kept a close eye on the thread to prevent things from spinning out of control. By removing it they made the drama way bigger than it initially was (hell, things just trudged along normally and cooled down on here before the announcement from Costello. Effectively, this post could not have been made, and nobody would give a shit if it weren't for one person spouting dumb shit which hit the administrators 'GBATEMP NEEDS POSITIVE PUBLICITY' detector).

Wiisel · Apr 25, 2017

With the selection of username it's like he was flaunting it. his next release could have been called something like Peekachu and nobody would have battered an eyelid.

dankzegriefer · Apr 25, 2017

Wiisel said:
With the selection of username it's like he was flaunting it. his next release could have been called something like Peekachu and nobody would have battered an eyelid.

what

dimmidice · Apr 25, 2017

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There was a time not so long ago some people would've said the same thing about homosexuals. There is a mountain of difference between someone like the cruel who actually acted on his perversion and someone who has the same perversion but doesn't act on it because he knows it is completely and utterly wrong. The former needs to be locked up, and is completely inexcusable. The latter needs help and support.

dimmidice · Apr 25, 2017

SuperDan said:
Maybe so but I'm talking about kiddy perverted assholes not gray men or women... The sick Fucks who rape children... Why people try to defend them is way beyond me

I agree, it's not defendable at all. But there has to be a distinction made between pedos who actually act on their perversion and ones who don't. It's the difference between a sociopath and a murderer. (not an exact metaphor but close enough). It's a shame there isn't a word for someone with the pedophile desires who hasn't acted on it.

SuperDan · Apr 25, 2017

dimmidice said:
I agree, it's not defendable at all. But there has to be a distinction made between pedos who actually act on their perversion and ones who don't. It's the difference between a sociopath and a murderer. (not an exact metaphor but close enough). It's a shame there isn't a word for someone with the pedophile desires who hasn't acted on it.

Yes a degenerative pervert... Anyone who thinks or has fantasies about having sex with a child.. Doing the act for real or just wacking themselves off to hentai.. Non stop.. Or looking at my kids & thinking of things they should not be... Should Die... If he is a developer or a police officer.. Whomever is a low life scumbag

dimmidice said:
I agree, it's not defendable at all. But there has to be a distinction made between pedos who actually act on their perversion and ones who don't. It's the difference between a sociopath and a murderer. (not an exact metaphor but close enough). It's a shame there isn't a word for someone with the pedophile desires who hasn't acted on it.

Yes a degenerative pervert... Anyone who thinks or has fantasies about having sex with a child.. Doing the act for real or just wacking themselves off to hentai.. Non stop.. Or looking at my kids & thinking of things they should not be... Should Die... If he is a developer or a police officer.. Whomever is a low life scumbag

SuperDan · Apr 25, 2017

dimmidice said:
That's a very idiotic viewpoint.

I Guess you don't have children... I have 3..

Hide616 · Apr 25, 2017

Not the type of shit you come back to holy hell.........

Joom · Apr 25, 2017

SuperDan said:
I Guess you don't have children... I have 3..

What if one of your children grows up to be a pedophile? Would you feel that they should be put to death as well, or would you seek out therapy for them? Just making sure you're consistent with your beliefs.

smf · Apr 25, 2017

Sketchy1 said:
Not all humans act on impulse dude.

You eat, drink and breath right? Those are impulses.

Sketchy1 said:
There is a mountain of difference between someone like the cruel who actually acted on his perversion and someone who has the same perversion but doesn't act on it because he knows it is completely and utterly wrong.

Someone with mental health issues or a history of alcohol or drug abuse is not going to be making good choices. If that means they click on some web sites that they shouldn't, is that so bad you should lock them up and throw away the key? Contact offences need to be dealt with harshly of course.

SuperDan · Apr 25, 2017

if any of my kids grew up to be peado's i would take them to the police myself ...

Rizzorules · Apr 25, 2017

I dont know if this has been answered before but did mods/admins read his conversations?

insidexdeath · Apr 25, 2017

Rizzorules said:
I dont know if this has been answered before but did mods/admins read his conversations?

They said they've checked all of his account's activity on gbatemp and haven't found anything.

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